Well suite yourself.. but I think you're doing yourself a disservice by avoiding some of the best weapons in the game. Especially if you like the M4 and G36C. Chances are that you get a lot of your kills at medium range or closer, if you prefer the G36C over other assault rifles, and the SMG's are fantastic at that range.

SMG's in this game hold up very well at reasonably long range. A lot of the games best players almost exclusively use MP5's.. or M4's. I switch it up from time to time myself, and prefer assault rifles, but I use the ones that are actually great long range weapons most of the time. Still, the MP5 and P90 are useful on just about any map in the game.

Hell even with the silencer (which penalizes range) the P90 and MP5 can still be effective at a reasonable distance.

Ok, I finished the game and... wow. The game just never lets up, and the last 2 hours is like a long action-movie style ending. Intense and over the top (in a good way). A lot to nitpick, but the story telling and intensity of the game are top notch. Took me about 7 hours on regular. I am trying not to say much as not to ruin it for others... but then again, most who were really interested already played this bad boy.

The MP is great.

Well, some of it comes down to personal preference.. and some of it is just a matter of fact. Like I find it hard to recommend using the G36C even as a matter of preference over other assault rifles. It doesn't have the range of the M16 or M14, and it doesn't have the up close forcefulness of the AK47, and it seems to represent less of a balance between the two than the M4 does. As far as the MP5 is concerned, it really is that good. It does a ton of damage (especially w/ stopping power, which I use on all my guns) and is deadly accurate (especially w/ steady aim) at close range w/ a hipshot, and at a distance with the red dot it holds up fairly well against assault rifles.

I do get the personal preference thing though. I use the M14 a lot when I'm pubbing, and the P90 as well, even though I know the MP5 may be better for certain rounds anyway. I play long range, not because I know I'm more effective at a distance, but because I find it more satisfying.

But that said, there is still obvious value in knowing these things. This discussion almost belongs in Ace's new thread, but they started here anyway.. so I'm going to continue them here.Hey I'm interested. Not playing the campaign til I do my upgrade though.

No, it's not as simple as that... that's assuming that every weapon is perfectly balanced, and I can tell you right now that they are not. Some weapons are indeed better than others. Fact. It's pretty well balanced, and you can feel free to ignore my advice, but there's actually an in game basis for the information that I'm giving you. The G36C aint all that.

The weapon balance in Call of Duty 4 is pretty solid between classes. Each comes with its own set of advantages and disadvantages. Within those classes, there are even more distinctions between the different weapons. The M16 and M14 are obviously the best long range assault rifles, but they break down a little at close range. The G36C, and M4 represent a more balanced area between the two, but overall the M4 just seems like a better gun. There's a reason that you'll find more people using it in competition already.. and it's not because they haven't unlocked the G36C yet. I realize you're playing it casually, and it's pretty capable in its own right.. but I'll stand by that statement. The G36C is one of the hardest assault rifles to recommend to anyone. If you're looking for a balanced weapon that works at any distance, than the M4 seems like a sure thing.

There's not an FPS in the world that I can think of where every weapon is perfectly balanced against one another. I'm just giving you the straight dope. The MP5 will eat the G36C for breakfast at medium range, and the M16 at long range, and the M4 seems like a better balance between the two.

I'm not really suggesting the game isn't well balanced. It's about as well balanced as you could expect a game with this much customization to be. But it doesn't just come down to what you like in a videogame, some weapons are in fact better than others.

Eh, it's trash. But then again, for like 90% of the weapons so is the ACOG.

ACOG decreases the weapons accuracy period, but gives it a higher maximum range. If you're doing ANY close combat fighting (including hipshots) I don't think it's worth using.. I could see mounting it on the M16 or M14, but I just stick with the red dot personally. I can't use the red dot on the M4 for some reason though, it screws me up. I just use the iron sights and the silencer. Sure it decreases the range but I hardly notice and only use it on smaller maps anyway.

I don't think it's worth sacraficing stopping power for overkill, especially with those two weapons.. since they both basically serve the same function. I'd use a long range assault rifle + a fully auto assault rifle or SMG if you're going to use overkill.

Once you get the deagle overkill is sorta pointless because the deagle is a great companion for any long range weapon already.

It's the shit, isn't it? It sounds so fuckin cool too.

POP POP POP!

They give you a gold one when you reach 55. It's sexy.

Who needs a silencer.

I can't imagine using any of the other pistols. The gold Desert Eagle is in every kit I've made.