No. I'm afraid to watch it...

PREDATORS

Good acting,good plot,good Predators,not enough time with them,worthy sequel to the original? hell yes!!

Better that the original? Not a chance! But better than P2 and AVP,AVP2 combined? hell yeah too!!

The movie was awesome to me,Brody nailed teh character of Royce he was believable as a badass mercenary type of dude not trying to outdo Arnold,there was no point in that,they make him more like a man who has everything under control at all times and I liked it.

There were good homages to the original too that they never felt out of place for me,Black Super predator was a freakin badass Predator from my point of view easily the bbest since Anytime of the first,the other 2 were cool but forgetable they were not in enough scenes to stablish them as a badass or something,last part of the movie was insane and very well made.

I really hope that for the sequel the Predators gets more time in screen because as much as I liked Brody's acting I just wanted to see Predator weaponry,tech and badassery on display and we only got a little taste in this one

Dude....not a chance. P2 was so much better than Predators it's not even funny. There were just no cool moments or pay-offs of any kind...just weak action and missed oppurtunities.

I mean, people are entitled to their opinions and all, but I can't even conceive that someone would like this more than P2.

Predators was kind of weak, any and all of the things i enjoyed about it were blatand ripoffs or throwbacks to the frist, which isn't really a good thing in itself. The movie just felt like a poorly executed homage to teh first movie, and why would i watch something like that when i can just go watch teh original?

As usual they go in with the mentality that more is obviously equal to awesome. You can recognize so many scenes that are just lifted directly out of the original and tehn just extended and by that made crappier. Like the scene with the Yakuza guy fighting the predator with his katana there. It's the exact setup as when Billy stays behind to slow the predator down in the first one, only you get to see them fight...and he actually manages to kill the predator. Not only does it take all the tension and mystery out of it, they also manage to totally pussyfy the predator. Way to go movie.

My problem with that scene isn't even that the Yakuza guy wins. It was pure and simple a horribly shitty fight. A Predator fighting blade to blade versus a Yakuza guy seems like it should be at least moderately cool to watch. This movie made sure that wasn't the case. And for me, that scene was indicative of the quality of the rest of the scenes in the movie in that there was no style, finesse, tension, or anything that would make the scene stand out in any way.

Ron:

No that's my whole point. It shouldn't be interesting to watch, and it wasn't to be sure. It should be the bloody predator smashing his little puny katana to bits with the first blow and then 45 minutes of mr Yakuza being raped before the predator rips his skull out though his nose :P Since when did the Predator give a shit about honor like that? With Dutch in the first movie, that respect was only granted becasue he turned out to be a worthy foe, but mr Yakuza takes his shirt of and instantly the Predator feels a need for some honorable BS? He should just get some plasma to the face!

What made the original movie good? I think it was the way they set up the predator as this incredibly strong, smart and fearsom creature that, even without all the gadgets and shit, could still rip a man apart without breaking a sweat. That came across really well in the first film, making it feel kind of opressive. You knew that this huge hulking killer was out there watching them, and i the end only by some measure of luck and a bit of smarts does Dutch actaully beat it. With the this they just go "fuckall!" with that and just chuck more of the same at the audience. Dumb people will just go "durrr, Predator cool!" and like it, totally missing what made the original good to begin with. My biggest problem with teh movie is that it feels like one big, huge homage to the original but whatever retard made it didn't understand the source material or was just pandering to the idiots that like AvP.

Aliens did the same thing. Take this really scary solitary hunter, turn it into cannon fodder and declare it a success. Because obviously it was better when there were 300 xenomorphs on screen all the time, right? I mean, you ge to see more of them, and there was more shooting. Right? That's what was lacking in the first movie; more balls out, guns blazing action. Right?

Not that i see how you could make a worthy sequel to Predator without just rehashing the same concept, but at least do it well if youa re going to go there.

@Ron;

P2 was good Im not saying otherwise,it was good form me as a Pred fan but overall the movie was really bad,the acting was atrocious,there was no sense of isolation or being hunted at all that that its what a Pred movie is about,being hunted and being scared as to not know what the hell is hunting you,and that aspect Predators is better that P2,acting is better too in Predators,sense of despair is IN Predators and not in P2,people being hunted is in Predators not so much in P2,P2 did one thing good and that was expanding on what the Predator is but thats it.

@Megido;

"Since when did the Predator give a shit about honor like that?"

You clearly don't understand at all what the Predator does or why so I will assume that you didnt understand the movie at all nor the first either for that matter.

What made the first good is what makes Predators good and what P2 lacked,tension,hunting,great characters that you give a shit about.

This movie worked on various levels not just on one,for example Brody character,he was at all times in control and for a moment he was the one hunting the Preds,he even set a trap just to see them to know what he is against,basically what the whole Dutch team did in the first he did it alone.

Of course there is P2 fans that pretty much will say that Predators is in no way better than the first but P2 was never even that good to begin with so Predators surpasseded it quite easily,this movie is what a sequel was suposed to be not what P2 did,that it only gave us some new weaponry and thats it.

As Ron said we are entitled to our opinions and I agree but if you say P2 is better then I will say that good for you but that isnt true at all not will be ever and I say that as a person that as been pretty much a Pred fan since the first one came out.

I ranked them as this:

Predator: 10/10
Predators 8.5/10
Predator 2 7/10
AVP: 2/10
AVPR: 1/10

Uh, excuse me but when did i ever say that Predator 2 was the pinnacle of the predator movies? I think that everything except for the first one is shit. Well Predator 2 was the least terrible of them, but that isn't saying much imo. I understand exactly what makes Predator a memorable movie and i understand fully well why it works, i question if you do considering your opinion on "masterpieces" like Transofrmers and Transformers 2 :P

Like i said, they completely missfire with this movie, not understanding what made the first one awesome. It's the most stupid kind of hollywood schlock, and the fans of the original movie should be the ones that are most offended. Unless you are bending over backwards in your fandom, willing to suck down whatever comes out with the Predator stamp on it. No this is not how you do a good sequel, you don't make a good sequel by taking teh same basic formula and then increase the amount of badguys 3 times, that's the most fucking lazy, stupid and derivative crap you can do. I guess that Predator 2 actually did a better job as a sequel since it at least tried to evolve the concept and do something new with it rather than just running another lap on the mill.

Here is how i imagine the meeting that decided the outline of the movie went:
"-hey guys, ýou know what we should do...there should be like 3 predators instead of just one, how fucking aswesome would that be!? Am i right brah!?"
"-Awesome duuude! But you know what!? There should be like this BIG predator that's like the boss of all the other predators, that'd be so fucking badass bro!"
"-Ah yeah man and then he can like kill the original Predator from the first movie, that's so fucking sweet!"
"-Brofist man!"
*thump*
And then they all went to the gym, worked out for 5 minutes and drank some protein powder shakes, eventhough they are overweight allready.

But in all seriousness, you can't even have read my post if that is what you get from it. Try again.

The quote I put in my post clearly showed that you didnt know that Predators had honor,how could I take what you said seriously after that?

I am with Raptor on this one.

Predator had very cool memories, scenes and awesome jokes "I got no time to bleed" lol "What, did the CIA make you push too many pencils?" LOL.
Predators was great as well because you could clearly see some similair vibe going on, good music too.

AvP, was decent, but I liked 1 major thing from that movie. Setting. It was in the antartic snowy "no mans land", temple from historical event when they first arrived. Thats it, the rest, meh.
AvP2 was BAD, 2 things I liked was the main female character which was also in 24 earlier seasons, and the music by Brian Tyler. Music was great.

Ok, so let me say it again:
Dutch, that is the protagonist of the first movie, had to prove himself a worthy oponent before the Predator would as much as bother to do anything other than point a laser gun in his face, while that favor was granted Mr. Yakuza for no reason whatsoever other than taking his shirt off. The Predator might know honor, but just compare the scene with Billy screaming from beyond the trees vs the Yakuza guy having a fucking fencing match. If the first movie is any indication the Predator doesn't give a flying f**k about honor, unless the prey proves to be worthy of such treatment. I don't think shirt removal qualifies. It's bloody stupid.

But that aside, if you didn't even read my entire post why did you comment on it? Read before you reply.

And how exactly you know what happened with Billy?

For all we know he could very well took of his mask and fight him hand to hand only for Billy to get killed,just because we didnt see it that measn he blasted him off.

And I read it but everything you said after it had no weight whatsoever after you put something like "Since when the Predators has Honor" see?

Im not trying to argue here Im saying you are somehow with your facts twisted like you always do.

Predators code of honor its strange by our terms of know what honor is to us,he could kill a person from behind by a blast and the next thing he does its let you go if you dont have a gun in your hand,he ranks the level of danger the pray represents to him,and no at what "you" think he did in the first with Arnold he didnt think he was worth it he think he was the strongest more fine specimen in there so he left him for last and gave him a fair fight plain and simple,worthy you say? that goes out of the window when you have Bears,Lions and all kinds of more dangerous animals in earth.

Predators feels more like a sequel than P2 by the fact that its in a freakin Jungle for starters,P2 by trying to do something new did something truly dissapointing,it felt like a bad acted gang picture with a predator in it,not what a Predator movie is about at all,The only good thing about that movie is again what it gaves us as Pred tech and weaponry and the scenes with the freakin Predator in it nothing more and by that fact alone Predators beat it,why it has credible and good acting by several people in there,a competent director that knows how to direct people,has teh right vibe and atmosphere,gaves us wars between clans,some Predator lore and some.

If you didnt like it thats fine and all but again to say its worse that P2 its flat out wrong Im sorry but it is.

I disagree completely on pretty much every account.Nope. I'm sorry, but to say P2 is worse than Predators is flat out wronger.

We could do this forever but the fact remains P2 was teh worse of the 2 by far no matter how you spin it or how much you cry it,it is worse.

But...it's not? Testament to that fact is I can remember a ton of different, awesome scenes from that movie, and I saw it ages ago. I can't remember shit from the travesty that was Predators.

Me too I remember a lot of scenes from that movie but that doesnt make a better movie at all,in fact some of the scenes I remember were because they were so very bad acted that it was hilarious,I remember a lot of stuff from Predators epic stuff like the BSP riping someone spine and skull to name one.

So no that is no testament that it was better it is only a testament that you have in what concerns Predators movies a very bad taste sorry.

LO-fucking-L.

That scene from Predators was most certainly not epic. Neither was the Yakuza/Pred fight. Neither was the Pred-dog hunting scene. Neither was the final fight. Nothing from that goddamn movie was epic. Predators tried too much to be like Predator 1 but couldn't recreate a single thing that made the first so awesome. Predator 2 at least did its own thing and was better for it. And honestly, the acting in Predator 2 isn't that bad. Bill Paxton's character is annoying, but I found his lines more believable than the swearing and warrior/mercenary bullshit akwardly spewing from Adrian Brody's mouth.

So the first point, we don't know what happened to Billy and that's a good thing. We see him stading on the fallen tree, then we cut to a few seconds later when he i just out of sight and hear him scream, that's all we need. That scene tells the viewer everything that needs to be said, it delivers it's message clearly without showing it on screen. It's called subtlety and it's something i don't think you understand, even in it's most basic form like this.

second:
And you think that a bear could beat a predator when a tained band of soldiers, said to be the best, can't? What part of your body are you useing to produce these arguments? Your ass? The predator fights Dutch one on one only after Dutch has managed to escape it's heat detection, mess upp it's cloaking device and lured it in to several traps. At this point, only when the predator has a helpless Dutch at his mercy does it take the mask and plasma gun off in a little gesture. Bears and lions aren't more dangerous because no bear or lion would ever set a trap, they may be physically superior but let's face it, they are pretty dumb and worthless compared to trained,a remd military personell. It might well be that Dutch was saved for last, but it might also simply be that there was no good opportunity to get him earlier. Who knows.

As for the third, i watched Predator 2 again yesterday and i have to agree with Ron, it's easily the more interesting movie. It might not be a masterpiece but I'll take Danny Glover, Bill Paxton and Garry Busey in a movie that pushesd in a new direction over a garbage fanservice remake any day. Predators is the ADHD stricken third sibling in the bunch, it's loud and stupid for no reason other than beeing loud and stupid and it doesn't even do it in a very charming way.

When i walked out of the theater i had a decent impression of the movie, it was stupid but at least it was somewhat entertaining, but the more i think about it the more it seems to fall apart.

I have like 6 movie rentals stacked up and all I can do is look at the box.

Whaddya got?

I want to see Scott Pilgrim, but it doesn't start playing over here untill october :P

Haven't seen Predators( want to, but I HATED the AvP movies), but I remember loving P2- not as a "masterpiece", but as a fun and well made movie. It's been a couple years though. Personally, I don't WANT every movie to be a "masterpiece"...