Naruto Manga Chapter 430 released (In first post)

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http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/430/01/

Very low quality scans, but fantastic either way.

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I dont like read manga because of animation, non-use of colors, and something else I am unable to describe at the moment. But recently all of the shippuden episodes have sucked majorly. Is because of the animation studio they switched to. The animation sucks, the same scenes are displayed multiple times and they appear not just in one episode but in multiple. I would rather have another year of fillers so they can get the animation right.

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The main reason the animation has sucked and was used over and over many times is because those fights they were attempting to show were actually glanced over in manga we never saw how neji, rock lee, ten ten or gai's fights take place.

We just knew that they happened, but the manga never focused on them. It was mostly focused on sasori vs sakura and chiyo or naruto and kakashi vs deidara.

So what you saw in the eps was actually attempts to prolong the episodes uncessarily. Even when Sakura and Naruto were getting bells from Kakashi. They never showed that in manga either we knew it would take place, but they simply went past it. I had my doubts about the animation as well, but that episode where sakura and chiyo ba fought Sasori were fighting against Sasori's hundreds of puppets proved to me these guys know what they're doing animation wise when they get serious.

I wouldn't be too concerned. That ep where chiyo used her 10 puppets alone should rid people of any fears they had :)

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The main reason the animation has sucked and was used over and over many times is because those fights they were attempting to show were actually glanced over in manga we never saw how neji, rock lee, ten ten or gai's fights take place.

We just knew that they happened, but the manga never focused on them.  It was mostly focused on sasori vs sakura and chiyo or naruto and kakashi vs deidara.

So what you saw in the eps was actually attempts to prolong the episodes uncessarily.  Even when Sakura and Naruto were getting bells from Kakashi.  They never showed that in manga either we knew it would take place, but they simply went past it.  I had my doubts about the animation as well, but that episode where sakura and chiyo ba fought Sasori were fighting against Sasori's hundreds of puppets proved to me these guys know what they're doing animation wise when they get serious.

I wouldn't be too concerned.  That ep where chiyo used her 10 puppets alone should rid people of any fears they had :)

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

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szaromir

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I only read manga, anime is not for me.
It seems that the massive theory Optimus posted here a while ago turns out to be more or less true. It's quite surprising that Tobi from Akatsuki=Uchicho Madara and I wonder why the hell is the part of the organisation... Maybe he wanted to keep an eye on Itachi. Now I wonder if now that there are 3 users of Mangyoken Sharingans they will make the summoning there was the theory about.

Now the main things we don't know are mysteries behind Pain and Naruto.

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Posté par Optimusv2

The main reason the animation has sucked and was used over and over many times is because those fights they were attempting to show were actually glanced over in manga we never saw how neji, rock lee, ten ten or gai's fights take place.

We just knew that they happened, but the manga never focused on them. It was mostly focused on sasori vs sakura and chiyo or naruto and kakashi vs deidara.

So what you saw in the eps was actually attempts to prolong the episodes uncessarily. Even when Sakura and Naruto were getting bells from Kakashi. They never showed that in manga either we knew it would take place, but they simply went past it. I had my doubts about the animation as well, but that episode where sakura and chiyo ba fought Sasori were fighting against Sasori's hundreds of puppets proved to me these guys know what they're doing animation wise when they get serious.

I wouldn't be too concerned. That ep where chiyo used her 10 puppets alone should rid people of any fears they had :)

yeah the puppet episode was freaking fantastic, it had me glued to the screen.

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[quote=Optimusv2]The main reason the animation has sucked and was used over and over many times is because those fights they were attempting to show were actually glanced over in manga we never saw how neji, rock lee, ten ten or gai's fights take place.

We just knew that they happened, but the manga never focused on them.  It was mostly focused on sasori vs sakura and chiyo or naruto and kakashi vs deidara.

So what you saw in the eps was actually attempts to prolong the episodes uncessarily.  Even when Sakura and Naruto were getting bells from Kakashi.  They never showed that in manga either we knew it would take place, but they simply went past it.  I had my doubts about the animation as well, but that episode where sakura and chiyo ba fought Sasori were fighting against Sasori's hundreds of puppets proved to me these guys know what they're doing animation wise when they get serious.

I wouldn't be too concerned.  That ep where chiyo used her 10 puppets alone should rid people of any fears they had :)[/quote]

yeah the puppet episode was freaking fantastic, it had me glued to the screen.

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szaromir

Yea that huge theory is looking like it could be accurate so far. That flute Sasuke has in that pic posted up top is the flute of Tengu.

I suspect Pein MIGHT be related to Naruto in some way like a brother maybe. It was stated naruto's mother is a former shinobi of the whirlpool country (which I believe is where the hidden rain village is) and that she had red hair. The mention of the country she is from and the color of her hair I think is very significant. Is it a coincidence that pein ALSO has red hair and is within that very country Naruto's mother is from? It could be nothing, but Pein looks SURPRISINGLY like Naruto and if he looks like Naruto that means he looks like Naruto's father the 4th hokage as well. The part when Jiraiya was talking to Tsunade and stated someone with minato's talent only comes around once a decade at best is probably a foreshadowing that the person with such talent is pein and he could also be the 4th's son.

Then again it's seeming more and more like Pein could have numerous bodies so maybe that body he goes around using is simply a brother of Naruto that was murdered? Or maybe that's his original body.

Either way there are a number of questions that need to be answered and it is looking very exciting to say the least :)

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[spoiler] Yea that huge theory is looking like it could be accurate so far.  That flute Sasuke has in that pic posted up top is the flute of Tengu.

I suspect Pein MIGHT be related to Naruto in some way like a brother maybe.  It was stated naruto's mother is a former shinobi of the whirlpool country (which I believe is where the hidden rain village is) and that she had red hair.  The mention of the country she is from and the color of her hair I think is very significant.  Is it a coincidence that pein ALSO has red hair and is within that very country Naruto's mother is from?  It could be nothing, but Pein looks SURPRISINGLY like Naruto and if he looks like Naruto that means he looks like Naruto's father the 4th hokage as well.  The part when Jiraiya was talking to Tsunade and stated someone with minato's talent only comes around once a decade at best is probably a foreshadowing that the person with such talent is pein and he could also be the 4th's son.

Then again it's seeming more and more like Pein could have numerous bodies so maybe that body he goes around using is simply a brother of Naruto that was murdered?  Or maybe that's his original body.
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Either way there are a number of questions that need to be answered and it is looking very exciting to say the least :)

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

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Eddy186

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Posté par Optimusv2

I wouldn't be too concerned. That ep where chiyo used her 10 puppets alone should rid people of any fears they had :)

Yeah but they started the prolonged scenes crap again. They just did it with the latest episode. They should'nt lower the quality just because they are catching up to the manga or have already caught up with it.

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Yeah but they started the prolonged scenes crap again. They just did it with the latest episode. They should'nt lower the quality just because they are catching up to the manga or have already caught up with it.

Mark my words they aren't ANYWHERE near the manga :D

Although that last episode is by far the worst shipuuden episode or definitely a contender for the worst I liked it for one reason and one reason only. They ended all those fights we didn't actually see take place in one shot. Afterall, it's pretty tough animating a fight scene when you don't want to risk doing things that could compromise the characters and what they're capable of so they ended up faking the fights for the most part It seems to me like they were buying themselves time to make later episodes look more incredible.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

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Mark my words they aren't ANYWHERE near the manga :D

Although that last episode is by far the worst shipuuden episode or definitely a contender for the worst I liked it for one reason and one reason only. They ended all those fights we didn't actually see take place in one shot. Afterall, it's pretty tough animating a fight scene when you don't want to risk doing things that could compromise the characters and what they're capable of so they ended up faking the fights for the most part It seems to me like they were buying themselves time to make later episodes look more incredible.

Making up fight scenes is compromising the characters. They should'nt do it. There was a time when they were dangerously close to the manga and that is why we had all those fillers.

The prolonged scenes are because they are afraid they might catch up to the manga again and because they want to milk the series for everything it's worth. Oh yeah, and it has a lot to do with the studios skills.

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Mark my words they aren't ANYWHERE near the manga :D

Although that last episode is by far the worst shipuuden episode or definitely a contender for the worst I liked it for one reason and one reason only.  They ended all those fights we didn't actually see take place in one shot.  Afterall, it's pretty tough animating a fight scene when you don't want to risk doing things that could compromise the characters and what they're capable of so they ended up faking the fights for the most part  It seems to me like they were buying themselves time to make later episodes look more incredible.[/quote]

Making up fight scenes is compromising the characters. They should'nt do it. There was a time when they were dangerously close to the manga and that is why we had all those fillers.

The prolonged scenes are because they are afraid they might catch up to the manga again and because they want to milk the series for everything it's worth. Oh yeah, and it has a lot to do with the studios skills.

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I SAW IT TOO!!!!!!!!

The part where Naruto gets his sword out and cuts Mijami in two was awesome. The scene where they are eating like pigs was a classic.......pretty much like in every other Japanese cartoon. lol @ the water drop on that guy's head. At the end Naruto is betrayed by master Yushin, and Tarago and Sanda go back to Samse Town.

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Making up fight scenes is compromising the characters. They should'nt do it. There was a time when they were dangerously close to the manga and that is why we had all those fillers.

The prolonged scenes are because they are afraid they might catch up to the manga again and because they want to milk the series for everything it's worth. Oh yeah, and it has a lot to do with the studios skills.

Yes the fillers were made because they were close to manga then, but as of now they are not even close to the manga. Well I suppose I'll have to deal with the crappy fight scenes because I certainly don't want to see them having neji, rock lee or ten ten doing some new technique that kishimoto didn't specify which could screw up how he wants to develop them. So the average fight scene was something they had to finish once they started it they should've skipped over it from the get go.

I think though that as a result of those crappily animated eps the later stuff will be a lot more impressive. Haha wow awesome didn't think Lebato would know about those characters you watch Naruto too I see? I would've never expected that. :)

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Making up fight scenes is compromising the characters. They should'nt do it. There was a time when they were dangerously close to the manga and that is why we had all those fillers.

The prolonged scenes are because they are afraid they might catch up to the manga again and because they want to milk the series for everything it's worth. Oh yeah, and it has a lot to do with the studios skills.[/quote]

Yes the fillers were made because they were close to manga then, but as of now they are not even close to the manga.  Well I suppose I'll have to deal with the crappy fight scenes because I certainly don't want to see them having neji, rock lee or ten ten doing some new technique that kishimoto didn't specify which could screw up how he wants to develop them.  So the average fight scene was something they had to finish once they started it they should've skipped over it from the get go.

I think though that as a result of those crappily animated eps the later stuff will be a lot more impressive.  Haha wow awesome didn't think Lebato would know about those characters you watch Naruto too I see?  I would've never expected that.  :)

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

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Eddy186

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Thanks for the spoiler Lebato. I thought you were being sarcastic but sadly you were not, as optimus confirmed.

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Haha wow awesome didn't think Lebato would know about those characters you watch Naruto too I see? I would've never expected that. :)

You are joking????

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Thanks for the spoiler Lebato. I thought you were being sarcastic but sadly you were not, as optimus confirmed.

You too right?

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You too right?

So you are being sarcastic but you do know the characters names.

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Haha it was a joke Lebato you didn't get any of it correct. How funny would it have been though if Lebato really managed to correctly guess everything hahaha :)

Don't worry Eddy you're safe you didn't see any spoilers :)

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Haha it was a joke Lebato you didn't get any of it correct. How funny would it have been though if Lebato really managed to correctly guess everything hahaha :)

Don't worry Eddy you're safe you didn't see any spoilers :)

lol, I got Naruto right.........that's something. I used to watch Dragon Ball back then though.

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lol, I got Naruto right.........that's something. I used to watch Dragon Ball back then though.

I got bored with Dragon Ball early in DBZ when they started to destroy entire planets with one move of finger.

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Optimusv2

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Things became pretty insane, but that didn't deter me any I still loved it.

Character development is so much more superior in Naruto though. The height of DBZ's character development was possibly on namek when vegeta started crying his eyes out to Goku (as he was about to die) about what Freeze ended up turning him into.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

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szaromir

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Wow, Pain is apparently former Jiraiya's apprentice :O[/quote]

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I just caught up on Naruto today. Wow, that's all i have to say. You can tell they are setting up some EPIC future encounters and situations.

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Optimusv2

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Pein and Konan appear to be former students of his which is absolutely insane and something I didn't expect. There are old manga pics or old anime eps that show Jiraiya and his 3 students with the 4th in the middle.

The girl to the left actually appears to match Konan and who knows who the hell Pein is, but he referred to Jiraiya as Sensei :o Man Jiraiya seems to have trained some of the best shinobi. 4th hokage, konan and possibly pein too?

They are setting up some epic stuff indeed mkk. I got 2 people to start reading the manga and they were literally messaging me after every chapter telling me how crazy they thought it was.

We don't even know if we've seen Pein's true body yet since he has 6 in that room. He may have the bodies of the shinobi he thought were really powerful in there. I suspect he may have Hanzou's body too

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Not only that, it seems that each body has a purpose too. His latest one was chosen to "kill the intruder". I also though it was pretty nuts he was able to detect Jiraiya because he just disturbed the rain. Nuts.

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Optimusv2

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Just like he used live sacrifices to make perfect clones of Itachi and Kisame I think what he's doing now is an extension of that technique and he has 6 live hosts for which to take advantage of this technique. That's possibly the most basic part though he likely has something special about him regarding his eyes and the pierceings may end up being significant.

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I think he may not have a physical body at all, he may exist as only chakra and he transfers himself from body to body as needed. The piercings may just simply be a way for his subordinates to recognize him. The bodies he inhabits may still be alive so he can utilize their chakra and abilities, but he just takes shoves aside their consciousness. That's my theory anyway.

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Optimusv2

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Wow that's a great theory, but I suspect the piercings may have a bit more significance. Hmm wait a minute what if those piercings relate to some sort of weird voodoo that Pein may be into? Perhaps all the bodies are no different than voodoo dolls for Pein. Maybe the piercings themselves are a jutsu of some sort that allow him to take control over the body of the opponent he faces. Maybe the number of piercings relate directly to the power of the body he's in. So lets say if he wanted to take over Jiraiya he would place numerous of these voodoo piercings into him.

It's possible Pein's power is increased or lowered depending on the the body he's in. Like I'm going to assume the body he's in right now is actually less powerful than the one he was in previously.

Notice his original body has more piercings in it than his new one?

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October 20th 2007 (A good day)

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