However, it seems like EA are affraid of the game, what with the reliance on the blood and Marylin Manson calling it the New Shit. I wonder if they think people won't buy it even though it's made by Bioware. With me, and many others, I think people will buy it without thinking because it is Bioware. Perhaps it's too old school for what people expect, it isn't first or third person, it's old school point and click, though how this will work on console :S
There's also been gameplay footage of a boss fight, showing how the combat system works and the different classes. Hopefully we'll get to see some more at e3.
Commented on 2009-05-30 13:07:21 In reply to Krilekk
Posted by Krilekk
Something smells fishy if a game that's been in development for five years is only shown with a CGI trailer.
Mass Effect is the only Bioware game in recent memory that *hasn't* used at least some CG for its cutscenes, which is what this trailer is probably built from. KotOR had some particularly epic ones. Don't worry about it, Bioware have never made a bad game. They're a class act.
Commented on 2009-05-30 14:41:00 In reply to Fenrir
Posted by Fenrir
Mass Effect is the only Bioware game in recent memory that *hasn't* used at least some CG for its cutscenes, which is what this trailer is probably built from.
Some of the Last Mass Effect Cutscenes are Pre-rendered scenes, like all uncharted cutscenes.
It's not esay giving the cenematic vibe with plain In-Engine ones.
Well I don't like the new way of their advertising for this game.
They are always pretty fast to point out that this is some kind of spiritual successor to BG but this kind of advertising tells otherwise.
Anyway I’m looking forward to it but not because of their recent trailers but because of their reputation and the actual gameplay scenes.
It is the spiritual successor of the Baldur's Gate series - NOT Mass Effect or KotOR with a medieval twist.
The graphics are beefed up, the bantersystem somewhat improved, the storyline new, the realm no longer The Forgotten Realms and the ruleset is new. BUT it still has the same pause, point & click combat features as did Baldur's Gate, which will make it feel like a Baldur's Gate game.
If you didn't like the Infinty Engine games or if you just play Mass Effect because it is 3rd person combat and very lightweight on the rpg front, you probably won't like Dragon Age: Origins.
Commented on 2009-05-31 14:28:17 In reply to spif2001
Posted by spif2001
It is the spiritual successor of the Baldur's Gate series - NOT Mass Effect or KotOR with a medieval twist.
The graphics are beefed up, the bantersystem somewhat improved, the storyline new, the realm no longer The Forgotten Realms and the ruleset is new. BUT it still has the same pause, point & click combat features as did Baldur's Gate, which will make it feel like a Baldur's Gate game.
If you didn't like the Infinty Engine games or if you just play Mass Effect because it is 3rd person combat and very lightweight on the rpg front, you probably won't like Dragon Age: Origins.
If that is so I cannot understand the target of this trailer with all that action/wannabemetal crap at the end.
Commented on 2009-05-31 17:34:42 In reply to spif2001
Posted by spif2001
BUT it still has the same pause, point & click combat features as did Baldur's Gate, which will make it feel like a Baldur's Gate game.
If you didn't like the Infinty Engine games or if you just play Mass Effect because it is 3rd person combat and very lightweight on the rpg front, you probably won't like Dragon Age: Origins.
You can actually play Dragon Age like Mass Effect, there is a 3rd person view and all that.
Btw. Mass Effect had a pause mode aswell...
Commented on 2009-06-01 04:09:58 In reply to spif2001
Posted by spif2001
It is the spiritual successor of the Baldur's Gate series - NOT Mass Effect or KotOR with a medieval twist.
The graphics are beefed up, the bantersystem somewhat improved, the storyline new, the realm no longer The Forgotten Realms and the ruleset is new. BUT it still has the same pause, point & click combat features as did Baldur's Gate, which will make it feel like a Baldur's Gate game.
But things are expected to improve and evolve with each successive generation of games, aren't they? Based on all the gameplay videos, the animations have been terrible, and the art direction and level design have been mediocre, from what I can see. It looks more like a low-budget indie title for the PC than a AAA game from Bioware.
@statix: It depends on the eye of the beholder. I for one would rather play a beefed up Baldur's Gate than a Mass Effect medieval remake. I don't regard Mass Effect and KotOR as genuine RPG games, but rather think of them as RPG/Action game hybrids.
Taking a genre like RPG and tranforming it into another genre like 3rd person shooter, is not game-evolving in my book, but rather trying to make a new IP from things one knows work, and trying to get a bigger audience in order to expand your market potentiel. Don't get me wrong - I love Mass Effect and KotOR, but they are not RPG games to the core.
As to the quality of the combat graphics, I don't think it look that bad - I rather like it. But don't take too much notice to what I am writing - I started playing computer RPG games way back in the early eighties, and I can't get enough of them... :)
I think this game looks much better than ME so far. ME was a huge disappointment for me. Then again I always loved the BG 1&2, Planescape Torment etc...
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Commented on 2009-05-30 11:16:19
Commented on 2009-05-30 11:22:17 In reply to KrilekkHowever, it seems like EA are affraid of the game, what with the reliance on the blood and Marylin Manson calling it the New Shit. I wonder if they think people won't buy it even though it's made by Bioware. With me, and many others, I think people will buy it without thinking because it is Bioware. Perhaps it's too old school for what people expect, it isn't first or third person, it's old school point and click, though how this will work on console :S
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Commented on 2009-05-30 12:35:47
Commented on 2009-05-30 13:07:21 In reply to Krilekk
Commented on 2009-05-30 14:41:00 In reply to FenrirIt's not esay giving the cenematic vibe with plain In-Engine ones.
Commented on 2009-05-30 15:50:05
Commented on 2009-05-30 16:54:11 In reply to xxxuserxxx
Commented on 2009-05-30 18:46:09They are always pretty fast to point out that this is some kind of spiritual successor to BG but this kind of advertising tells otherwise.
Anyway I’m looking forward to it but not because of their recent trailers but because of their reputation and the actual gameplay scenes.
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Commented on 2009-05-31 04:55:03
Commented on 2009-05-31 08:28:37The graphics are beefed up, the bantersystem somewhat improved, the storyline new, the realm no longer The Forgotten Realms and the ruleset is new. BUT it still has the same pause, point & click combat features as did Baldur's Gate, which will make it feel like a Baldur's Gate game.
If you didn't like the Infinty Engine games or if you just play Mass Effect because it is 3rd person combat and very lightweight on the rpg front, you probably won't like Dragon Age: Origins.
Commented on 2009-05-31 14:28:17 In reply to spif2001The graphics are beefed up, the bantersystem somewhat improved, the storyline new, the realm no longer The Forgotten Realms and the ruleset is new. BUT it still has the same pause, point & click combat features as did Baldur's Gate, which will make it feel like a Baldur's Gate game.
If you didn't like the Infinty Engine games or if you just play Mass Effect because it is 3rd person combat and very lightweight on the rpg front, you probably won't like Dragon Age: Origins.
Commented on 2009-05-31 17:34:42 In reply to spif2001If you didn't like the Infinty Engine games or if you just play Mass Effect because it is 3rd person combat and very lightweight on the rpg front, you probably won't like Dragon Age: Origins.
Btw. Mass Effect had a pause mode aswell...
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Commented on 2009-06-01 04:09:58 In reply to spif2001The graphics are beefed up, the bantersystem somewhat improved, the storyline new, the realm no longer The Forgotten Realms and the ruleset is new. BUT it still has the same pause, point & click combat features as did Baldur's Gate, which will make it feel like a Baldur's Gate game.
Commented on 2009-06-01 09:04:32Taking a genre like RPG and tranforming it into another genre like 3rd person shooter, is not game-evolving in my book, but rather trying to make a new IP from things one knows work, and trying to get a bigger audience in order to expand your market potentiel. Don't get me wrong - I love Mass Effect and KotOR, but they are not RPG games to the core.
As to the quality of the combat graphics, I don't think it look that bad - I rather like it. But don't take too much notice to what I am writing - I started playing computer RPG games way back in the early eighties, and I can't get enough of them... :)
Commented on 2009-06-01 15:44:46