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There is still quite a bit of footage from the Game Convention left to be put online, like this quite uninteresting video of Lair.

XSAVAGE
XSAVAGE
Commented on 2007-08-27 10:11:02
i don't , im not convinced of playing a game that you spent entirely on top of a dragon , will get repetitive.
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Hrimthur
Hrimthur
Commented on 2007-08-27 10:17:54
The grafx are cool, very nice landscapes. Well, a demo will show us how it plays.
Well, i think the developpers will try to create some alternation, I hope so ^^
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Commented on 2007-08-27 10:18:22 In reply to XSAVAGE
Posted by XSAVAGE
i don't , im not convinced of playing a game that you spent entirely on top of a dragon , will get repetitive.
So you sitting inside a jet dont get repetive?

Atleast dragons can go close combat while jets can only shoot missiles and machine guns from long range.

I for one am gonna get this game, no matter the reviews and such, atleast if I don't like this once I get it, I can say that I gave it a good shot.
Posted by Hrimthur
The grafx are cool, very nice landscapes. Well, a demo will show us how it plays.
Well, i think the developpers will try to create some alternation, I hope so ^^
No demos until AFTER release, that is what they said.


PS. Damn Blim no sound :(
The very great stuff about this game is the sound and the soundtrack from John Debney :D

But I gotta say after watching the video, it looks great, the landscape and graphics, its amazing in my opinion, really cool stuff. They wasen't kidding around that they were going for a lot of stuff on screen at once and still have great graphics. Although I am sure it will have ALOT of epic battles later on the game which I just love to play it through.

Now it all ends with...is it still on September, which I REALLY hope so.
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Hrimthur
Hrimthur
Commented on 2007-08-27 10:29:02
Posted by Sath
No demos until AFTER release, that is what they said.
...

Now it all ends with...is it still on September, which I REALLY hope so.
Nargh, but demos are made to get an idea of the game, BEFOR it's released... nargh.
Well, okay, so we'll have to wait ^^
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Commented on 2007-08-27 10:45:08 In reply to Hrimthur
Posted by Hrimthur
Nargh, but demos are made to get an idea of the game, BEFOR it's released... nargh.
Well, okay, so we'll have to wait ^^
Yeah I know :(

I for one WANT a demo before the release but thats not gonna happen.
But for those who are uncertain (me not included) should either wait for the demo, or rent the game.

I WANT this for sure. If I didn't like it, well I got 10 days to return it so there is no problem there.

I like the story, art and most definitely the score by John VERY much.

The only thing that might turn me off is the flying.
Like is it gonna be hard to control the dragon with the sixaxis and how much time does it take for the animation and movement into the dragon once you start moving your arms.

But I am sure gonna enjoy and adjust myself to the game. Thats how it works.
YOU have adjust yourself to the game, the game can't adjust it to you.
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catfish
catfish
Commented on 2007-08-27 11:40:56
graphically impressive...its probably the technically most impressive game so far released
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Commented on 2007-08-27 12:37:33 In reply to XSAVAGE
Posted by XSAVAGE
i don't , im not convinced of playing a game that you spent entirely on top of a dragon , will get repetitive.
That's certainly not my problem. I love Panzer Dragoon.. I'm just a little cautious of any game that makes me control every major movement with waggle input. Still fairly unsure of this one.
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Ragism
Ragism
Commented on 2007-08-27 13:11:50
It seems to get boring after a while. That's the problem with this game, on which all reviews agree so far. If I had a PS3, I'd maybe get it for 30€.
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Gamer13
Gamer13
Commented on 2007-08-27 13:30:42
Im not into the dragon stuff, the game itself seems ok.
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Commented on 2007-08-27 13:51:26
The graphics do look good, as much as i like Panzer Dragoon i don't think this will play anything like it, this seems more like a dragon flight sim than something arcadey like PD.
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Ezekiel_Xz
Ezekiel_Xz
Commented on 2007-08-27 15:04:27
its got some bad reviews, boring repetative gameplay, bad framerate drops and generally just not that interesting of a game. I personally dont like the look of it.

Too bad really, also heavenly sword got the same treatment, graphically amazing, gameplay is bad. I played the demo and thought the gameplay was a bit simplistic.
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Doom_Bringer - I have terrible taste
Doom_Bringer
Commented on 2007-08-27 15:20:42 In reply to Ezekiel_Xz
Great graphics engine, if they had gone for conventional gameplay like Ace Combat we would have a winner on our hands.
Posted by Ezekiel_Xz
its got some bad reviews, boring repetative gameplay, bad framerate drops and generally just not that interesting of a game. I personally dont like the look of it.
I don't you can talk about a game like that when you haven't played it... I don't how the gameplay could be repetitive when you can fight on ground and on air. I mean if you wanna talk repetitive look at Ace Combat.... oh and the frame rate was locked for the final build
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Ezekiel_Xz
Ezekiel_Xz
Commented on 2007-08-27 15:41:27 In reply to Doom_Bringer
Posted by Doom_Bringer
I don't you can talk about a game like that when you haven't played it... I don't how the gameplay could be repetitive when you can fight on ground and on air. I mean if you wanna talk repetitive look at Ace Combat.... oh and the frame rate was locked for the final build
Well its only what I heard in a ign podcast. He said he thought the gameplay was boring, and tbh from what ive seen of it I just dont like the look of it. Some games you look at and think wow need to play this, others you just think meh doesnt look fun. The podcast also said the framerate did drop and was some tearing issues i think. Il have to try and dig it up. I dont like Ace Combat either I've never liked flying games....
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blmbox
blmbox
Commented on 2007-08-27 15:49:04
So the gameplay consists of ground combat aswell as combat on the dragons? Still, i'm guessing the majority would be in the air, in which case this isn't the game for me. Gameplay in the air just doesn't look interesting at all, and I definitely don't think the game would last long.
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WhiteWolf
WhiteWolf
Commented on 2007-08-27 16:07:55
I was so excited to play this game... But as soon as I played it at the Games Convention in Leipzig, I was really disappointed. The Gameplay didn't really catch me, the Controls weren't so smooth and the Graphics really just sucked (compared to other Next Gen-Games). Maybe the Graphics are a bit better if you are playing on a big HD-TV with 1080p like mine, but at the moment I don't believe in that.

If the Release-Version is just like the GC-Version I will not buy it!!!
I'm sorry todisappoint you, guys...

Sorry for my miserable english. I'm just a stupid german. ;)
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abaddon1125
abaddon1125
Commented on 2007-08-27 16:38:18 In reply to WhiteWolf
Posted by WhiteWolf
Sorry for my miserable english. I'm just a stupid german. ;)
Dude, your English is better than most American's...
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Kendoguk
Kendoguk
Commented on 2007-08-27 16:56:45
i think this game looks, wait for it, boring lol ive seen tons of gameplay and its all meh
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acm2000
acm2000
Commented on 2007-08-27 17:09:12
graphics are very nice, shame about the gameplay, dont think id even bother getting this for the 360 if it was coming out, let alone if i had a ps3
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Hrimthur
Hrimthur
Commented on 2007-08-27 17:44:47
Nargh, it hurts to read all this negative stuff.... I'd like zo cry =(
I was really hoping that Lair is a game with depht and athmosphere, with a good gameplay ...

@ WhiteWolf: Deutsche sind doch nicht dumm, sie sind bloss... anders ^^Hehe, nichts für ungut =)
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catfish
catfish
Commented on 2007-08-27 17:47:31 In reply to WhiteWolf
Posted by WhiteWolf
I was so excited to play this game... But as soon as I played it at the Games Convention in Leipzig, I was really disappointed. The Gameplay didn't really catch me, the Controls weren't so smooth and the Graphics really just sucked (compared to other Next Gen-Games). Maybe the Graphics are a bit better if you are playing on a big HD-TV with 1080p like mine, but at the moment I don't believe in that.

If the Release-Version is just like the GC-Version I will not buy it!!!
I'm sorry todisappoint you, guys...

Sorry for my miserable english. I'm just a stupid german. ;)
Im not sure how you can say the graphics sucked, when it looks very impressive here...
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Commented on 2007-08-27 17:56:37
All this negativity is coming form people who haven't played the game AT ALL.
To the people who say it is repetive and boring, Ace Combat is the same thing. You keep flanking and try again, fly around try again...etc.
This is like Ace Combat but its in a fantasy world with epic battles.

And those who say the gameplay sucks...well it is using motion sensor so you can't say anything about it until you try it out yourself.
Maybe the reviews didn't even bother with learning it so they gave it a bad review. They probably thought it was a Wii that they wanted everything to feel natural to them, or thye just swung their arms like monkeys to try and see some action but failed.

I for one say, if a game like this uses a different control scheme and people are unsure about it, I say try it out yourself and don't let reviews do it for you.
You may like it, you may not, but atleast you have a very perfect and VALID excuse to say "I thought the gameply wasent there" and a "I have rented/bought it" then they have nothing to say.
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synce
synce
Commented on 2007-08-27 18:09:05
If this game had more original and colorful characters and environments, I might care for it, despite the fact that the gameplay looks mediocre at best, but it's just another brown-grey run-of-the-mill action title (with dragons!)
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Kendoguk
Kendoguk
Commented on 2007-08-27 20:03:56
ace combat is boring as well
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Commented on 2007-08-27 20:30:39 In reply to Kendoguk
Posted by synce
If this game had more original and colorful characters and environments, I might care for it, despite the fact that the gameplay looks mediocre at best, but it's just another brown-grey run-of-the-mill action title (with dragons!)
Well its like saying LOTR sucks because of the colors is not colorful to watch it.
LOTR had tons of grey/brown and green filters, Return of the King had tons of brown/white. the only place that had colors was at the Shire by the hobbits.

So saying the colors are bad and then saying its sucks, it just shows you that you are not giving the game a chance.
Posted by Kendoguk
ace combat is boring as well
Never EVER play flight games then, it is not you. If you don't like these stuff why do you enter a thread when the game is a flight game :S
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Commented on 2007-08-27 20:43:28 In reply to Sath
Posted by Sath
Never EVER play flight games then, it is not you. If you don't like these stuff why do you enter a thread when the game is a flight game :S
Because the developers hyped this game up so much, a lot of people are allowed an opinion when it doesn't live up to what was promised.

Personally it looks like an OK game, but it sure as hell isn't the masterpiece i was expecting.
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