Images Xbox 360

Rare posted two comparison images of the Perfect Dark XBLA remake, coming this winter.

XBLA version

  • Perfect Dark comparison images - XBLA version
  • Perfect Dark comparison images - XBLA version

Old N64 version

  • Perfect Dark comparison images - Old N64 version
  • Perfect Dark comparison images - Old N64 version
Nietzsche
Nietzsche
Commented on 2009-08-21 20:48:53
So slightly more clear? I can't see why anyone would pay much for this. If there is one genre that does NOT age well it's the FPS genre.

This game was a masterpiece back in the day, but by today's standards it will feel pretty lame i'm guessing.
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LEBATO - IS WRONG
LEBATO
Commented on 2009-08-21 20:48:57
Not bad I guess for being an N64 game.
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nam37
nam37
Commented on 2009-08-21 21:05:23
I wish MSFT would cut their loses with Rare and close them down.
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karaokequeen3
karaokequeen3
Commented on 2009-08-21 21:19:21
ohhh, the laptop gun! such a shame no-one could agree on that GoldenEye XBLA release...
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Biffo
Biffo
Commented on 2009-08-21 21:26:12
Yeh that was a shame with 3 parties and all that red tape, I still blame ninty really as if they wanted to keep control of goldeneye they shouldn't have sold them since they held the code.
I look forward to this as it will give me a chance to finally play the co-op/counter co-op modes without the game chugging to high hell.
Fingers crossed for some online functionality.
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blmbox
blmbox
Commented on 2009-08-21 21:26:17
I think Perfect Dark is better than Goldeneye anyway. I'll be getting this one, fo' shore.
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bleachedsmiles
bleachedsmiles
Commented on 2009-08-21 21:27:53
I dont wanna play Goldeneye again.. nostalgia is there because you never go back. Playing it again now would tint fond memorys as you end up seeing just how flawed the game actually was.
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dingleberry
dingleberry
Commented on 2009-08-21 21:50:57 In reply to Biffo
Posted by Biffo
Yeh that was a shame with 3 parties and all that red tape, I still blame ninty really as if they wanted to keep control of goldeneye they shouldn't have sold them since they held the code.
I look forward to this as it will give me a chance to finally play the co-op/counter co-op modes without the game chugging to high hell.
Fingers crossed for some online functionality.
Yeah, spot on. Nintendo are the guilty party and I seriously dispise what they have become of late. To deny gamers the chance of a XBLA version of such a classic is unforgivable IMO. Everyone was at a win-win, and they'd have made a killing over it, but petty disputes over money is just disgraceful. The gamers lost out and Nintendo, your fan base was all about the gamers and you betrayed them. You even betrayed your loyal fanbase with that shambles called the Wii by neglecting to create some decent hardcore titles for it.

As for PD, f*ck aye, I'll be buying this just for the chance to go online and use that rocket launcher with the camera on it. Still a great game. Even to this day. Shame about the sequel on 360, though. I'd rather pay 800 points for this, than spend money on that tripe.
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GangStarr - Inhibited Sony Lover
GangStarr
Commented on 2009-08-21 22:06:41 In reply to Nietzsche
Posted by Nietzsche
So slightly more clear?.
slightly? lol u serious?. look at the textures

having not played the original PD i will download the trial and if i like it then will buy it
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rodrms
rodrms
Commented on 2009-08-21 22:35:54
AWESOME, AWESOME, AWESOME!! Not just brighter, but better models AND textures omg!!!! *drools*... I love this game so much, I"d pay 100 bucks for the XBLA version of it, if they do this right!! Boy, this could pretty much be the BEST FPS multiplayer experience on Xbox, all time! Can't wait!!
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terranwolf
terranwolf
Commented on 2009-08-21 23:09:06 In reply to rodrms
Posted by rodrms
AWESOME, AWESOME, AWESOME!! Not just brighter, but better models AND textures omg!!!! *drools*... I love this game so much, I"d pay 100 bucks for the XBLA version of it, if they do this right!! Boy, this could pretty much be the BEST FPS multiplayer experience on Xbox, all time! Can't wait!!
Thanks, I needed to see someone with that much sarcasm to pretty much sum the whole thing up. :)
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SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
SimonM7
Commented on 2009-08-21 23:12:59
What are you guys whining about? The Banjo XBLA ports were great, and this'll be too. Banjo doesn't compare for a second to Mario Galaxy but that's not really the point is it?

This'll be the snazziest way to play a 100% faithful version of Perfect Dark, nothing more and more importantly nothing less.
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Pablopictures
Pablopictures
Commented on 2009-08-22 00:43:57
My favourite FPS, after Half Life and Halo, and I can play them on the same console ^_^
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rodrms
rodrms
Commented on 2009-08-22 01:03:50
@terranwolf: It actually wasn't meant to be sarcasm. I truly love PD, it's probably the game I've played most, my entire life. :P

But now reading what I said, yeah, lol, it does sound like it was sarcastic, rofl... But come on, compare those pics, they really did improve the models and the textures; and this game's split-screen multiplayer with bots is an absolute blast, up to this day...

Had too many hours of fun with my family playing this in the good old N64 days, hopefully I'll have lots more when this come out to XBLA! :)
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moroboshi
moroboshi
Commented on 2009-08-22 01:13:17
That doesn't actually look much different at all....

Looks like a pretty straight (lazy) port to me. After stuff like Shadow Complex, this doesn't look very interesting.
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dingleberry
dingleberry
Commented on 2009-08-22 01:24:43 In reply to moroboshi
Posted by moroboshi
That doesn't actually look much different at all....

Looks like a pretty straight (lazy) port to me. After stuff like Shadow Complex, this doesn't look very interesting.
Well considering Banjo was just a straight port with no touching up, this version is a nice little improvement. Sure it could be better, but I'm sure to make it "acceptable" then it would require a not-so-faithful rebuilding of the original and we wouldn't want that. Or would we? I'd have just prefered if Rare remade the original from scratch with a next gen sheen and gameplay oomph.
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Real720
Real720
Commented on 2009-08-22 01:28:49 In reply to Nietzsche
Posted by Nietzsche
This game was a masterpiece back in the day, but by today's standards it will feel pretty lame i'm guessing.
You're joking, right?
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SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
SimonM7
Commented on 2009-08-22 01:34:08 In reply to dingleberry
Posted by dingleberry
Well considering Banjo was just a straight port with no touching up
Oh Banjo was touched up alright, but tastefully so.
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Megido
Megido
Commented on 2009-08-22 01:52:27 In reply to Real720
Posted by Real720
You're joking, right?
Seeing as how there was virtually no competition for the game at the time i can understand how people thought it was great, but someone used to todays standards will probably think it's garbage. Unless they've done some major fixing ofc. Let's just be honest here, before Halo kicked console FPS gaming off, the pickings were slim and i'd be willing to wager that this is noticeable today. I'm not saying this to bash the game, i just don't expect it has aged well.
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dingleberry
dingleberry
Commented on 2009-08-22 03:23:37 In reply to SimonM7
Posted by SimonM7
Oh Banjo was touched up alright, but tastefully so.
LOL yeah, the resolution was a little sharper. Textures were the same, though.
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SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
SimonM7
Commented on 2009-08-22 03:47:32
No they weren't. When upscaled N64 Banjo looks nowhere near that good. Sprites for lettering, health bars, all of the hud essentially, aswell as pics of all the characters when they talked were redone, and textures were at the very least resampled to make it look way less smeary.

Go check out an N64 emulator and you'll see what I mean.
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dingleberry
dingleberry
Commented on 2009-08-22 17:47:44 In reply to SimonM7
Posted by SimonM7
No they weren't. When upscaled N64 Banjo looks nowhere near that good. Sprites for lettering, health bars, all of the hud essentially, aswell as pics of all the characters when they talked were redone, and textures were at the very least resampled to make it look way less smeary.

Go check out an N64 emulator and you'll see what I mean.
I actually have. I worked on a retexturing project for Banjo a few years ago. They are they same N64 textures, it's just that the N64's lack of RAM and dodgy anisotropic filtering caused that smeary look to a lot of its games. When I extracted the textures from the ROM and put them into photoshop and upscalled them, they didn't look as bad as they did in the actual game. They had to be physically upscalled rather than just being ran on a higher resolution from an emulator. They certainly didn't redraw any of the original png's. They just sharpened them up.

Here's how it could have looked instead.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2299/2312945033_9b2...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2301/2313704152_a7c...
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SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
SimonM7
Commented on 2009-08-22 18:21:17
While retexturing stuff is admirable, that's really not the Banjo people remember. Look at the reception of things like early Sega Ages to find out how people feel about their nostalgia being tampered with.

Also, the pic of Banjo and Kazooie in your second screenshot looks awful compared to the image in the XBLA version. Are you telling me that wasn't redone to look sharper, along with the hud system?

Resampled textures were pretty much what I was assuming though yeah.
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dingleberry
dingleberry
Commented on 2009-08-22 19:31:52
Of course it was redone, but they weren't redone in a way that the texture had more detail than the original. There was nothing added or redrawn like in those PD textures or the GE remake. This for me was the let down of the XBLA version of the game. The thing is, though, about retexturing is that so long as you stick to the original PNG. and not change it too much, then it should remain faithful. I've seen complete reworkings of textures in some of the screens from the XBLA version of PD and it looks far superior for it.
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ManThatYouFear
ManThatYouFear
Commented on 2009-08-24 14:20:20 In reply to nam37
Posted by nam37
I wish MSFT would cut their loses with Rare and close them down.
So no more kameo banjo and viva pinata ? only reasons i play the smegging machine is for the odd title that is NOT a fucking shooter/racer

Oh and that i keep hoping for a sequal to GbtG
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