never watched the episodes.. maybe i'd have abit more enthusiasm for this if i had. TV show games dont exactly have a proven record though do they?.. who has fond memorys of the Lost game..or the 24 game..
Commented on 2010-02-20 21:01:34 In reply to Slabs
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I can't imagine they'll bother now, they completely fucked up the TV show.
i only watched the first series half way through..think the last one i saw had Chris Eccleston in it as an invisable man. It was still pretty good back then.. has it really gone down hill since?
Same thing happened with Lost, the first 2 seasons were great..then sky got it so i didnt watch it for years.. started watching season 3 not to long ago and the plots all over the place. I guess thats what happens when you originally have a set story, with a start, and a finish, and then it becomes popular and you have to stretch out that story..untill you lose that original ending all together and end up making it up as you go along
Commented on 2010-02-20 23:41:25 In reply to bleachedsmiles
Posted by bleachedsmiles
i only watched the first series half way through..think the last one i saw had Chris Eccleston in it as an invisable man. It was still pretty good back then.. has it really gone down hill since?
Same thing happened with Lost, the first 2 seasons were great..then sky got it so i didnt watch it for years.. started watching season 3 not to long ago and the plots all over the place. I guess thats what happens when you originally have a set story, with a start, and a finish, and then it becomes popular and you have to stretch out that story..untill you lose that original ending all together and end up making it up as you go along
exactly.
Now look at Lost; the final season is coming up and everyone is breathing a sigh of relief.
That's not how you want your show to be remembered.
After the first episode the buzz was high, but then it bacame another ho hum show.
(on top of that the premiere ended quickly)
Honestly, you can't spend half the show switching time.
You just lose your twitch viewers, which is like 80% of the audience.
This is why 24 does so well, er, part of why.
They don't waste time exploring peoples past, the action/sabotage seemingly never lets up, and then it's over before you know it.
Even if you miss an episode it's quite obvious what may have happened, and you can jump right in again.
Of course, they grant themselves a semi break between seasons, so it can recreate itself there, but hey! Maybe that's how it should be done :) It's television afterall.
With Lost it was pretty cool at first, to be Lost.
Then it just kept dragging on asking questions like, "why are we lost?". Uh I don't know. "Find out next season, when you give you more questions, like Why are we lost?"
so has flashforward been canned then? Thats the only trouble with american shows..they rarely get time to breath, they need the viewing figures instantly and constant.
With UK shows they're filmed as complete series before the first episode airs usually... this is why our series/seasons consist of 6-12 episodes.. instead of 22+ that american shows roughly get per season.
It was a crime that very few people in the states switched on to Arrested development - the best written comedy show i've ever seen
I think the season 6 flash...wherevers.. are the best thing about Lost since the first season. First season Lost is some of the finest stuff I've seen on TV.
I like when it's about characters played by brilliant actors, and it's been mostly about weirdness and sweaty plot puppets for about 4½ seasons. That's not the show's fault per se I guess, it's more to do with my utter indifference in the face of "what is going on!". Nothing could possibly turn out to have been going on that buys back all that time spent watching confused, sweaty plot puppets for me.
Some genuinely moving flash-wherever stuff going on right now though. Locke meeting Hurley in the parking lot had more sincerity and gravity to it than the last five seasons put together.
FOR ME ME ME ME, just so that's clear. I know alot of people pay more attention and put more weight into the overall "mystery" and that's prolly a much more thankful angle to view it from.
EDIT: Oh and Prison Break, it's a game now apparently! On topicness! Faces sure look like they should. There's prolly breaking of prisons going on in it.
they really need some unique ways to play this game, or take the best of the genres to create a blast of a game, like Thief, Splinter Cell, a little cover based run n' gun.
It's gonna be tough to sell to real gamers, but ultimately it will profit on its name alone.
Commented on 2010-02-21 09:41:36 In reply to bleachedsmiles
Bleachedsmiles: Arrested development was amazing and is a prime example of a great series that never "got the numbers" to stay alive when somehow, bafflingly some real crap keeps going for years.
To be successful in USTV land it seems appealing to the lowest common denominator is the safest route but there are still some good shows. I agree that many never get the chance to develop though, one of my favourites of all time was Carnivale which ended long before the writers had intended with some major unresolved issues. Still it was well worth seeing...
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Commented on 2010-02-20 21:01:34 In reply to SlabsSame thing happened with Lost, the first 2 seasons were great..then sky got it so i didnt watch it for years.. started watching season 3 not to long ago and the plots all over the place. I guess thats what happens when you originally have a set story, with a start, and a finish, and then it becomes popular and you have to stretch out that story..untill you lose that original ending all together and end up making it up as you go along
Commented on 2010-02-20 23:41:25 In reply to bleachedsmilesSame thing happened with Lost, the first 2 seasons were great..then sky got it so i didnt watch it for years.. started watching season 3 not to long ago and the plots all over the place. I guess thats what happens when you originally have a set story, with a start, and a finish, and then it becomes popular and you have to stretch out that story..untill you lose that original ending all together and end up making it up as you go along
Now look at Lost; the final season is coming up and everyone is breathing a sigh of relief.
That's not how you want your show to be remembered.
Commented on 2010-02-21 00:26:18 In reply to PlumbDrumb
Commented on 2010-02-21 00:28:50Make room for another show already.
Commented on 2010-02-21 01:21:39 In reply to PlumbDrumbIf we'd get a similarly excellent, but different, show in return...then yeah, bring it on!
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Commented on 2010-02-21 04:20:27(on top of that the premiere ended quickly)
Honestly, you can't spend half the show switching time.
You just lose your twitch viewers, which is like 80% of the audience.
This is why 24 does so well, er, part of why.
They don't waste time exploring peoples past, the action/sabotage seemingly never lets up, and then it's over before you know it.
Even if you miss an episode it's quite obvious what may have happened, and you can jump right in again.
Of course, they grant themselves a semi break between seasons, so it can recreate itself there, but hey! Maybe that's how it should be done :) It's television afterall.
With Lost it was pretty cool at first, to be Lost.
Then it just kept dragging on asking questions like, "why are we lost?". Uh I don't know. "Find out next season, when you give you more questions, like Why are we lost?"
and on and on and on. Finally it will end.
Commented on 2010-02-21 04:36:16With UK shows they're filmed as complete series before the first episode airs usually... this is why our series/seasons consist of 6-12 episodes.. instead of 22+ that american shows roughly get per season.
It was a crime that very few people in the states switched on to Arrested development - the best written comedy show i've ever seen
Commented on 2010-02-21 04:41:45I like when it's about characters played by brilliant actors, and it's been mostly about weirdness and sweaty plot puppets for about 4½ seasons. That's not the show's fault per se I guess, it's more to do with my utter indifference in the face of "what is going on!". Nothing could possibly turn out to have been going on that buys back all that time spent watching confused, sweaty plot puppets for me.
Some genuinely moving flash-wherever stuff going on right now though. Locke meeting Hurley in the parking lot had more sincerity and gravity to it than the last five seasons put together.
FOR ME ME ME ME, just so that's clear. I know alot of people pay more attention and put more weight into the overall "mystery" and that's prolly a much more thankful angle to view it from.
EDIT: Oh and Prison Break, it's a game now apparently! On topicness! Faces sure look like they should. There's prolly breaking of prisons going on in it.
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Commented on 2010-02-21 04:45:39 In reply to PlumbDrumb
Commented on 2010-02-21 04:49:49It's gonna be tough to sell to real gamers, but ultimately it will profit on its name alone.
Commented on 2010-02-21 09:41:36 In reply to bleachedsmilesTo be successful in USTV land it seems appealing to the lowest common denominator is the safest route but there are still some good shows. I agree that many never get the chance to develop though, one of my favourites of all time was Carnivale which ended long before the writers had intended with some major unresolved issues. Still it was well worth seeing...