Who is bashing consoles? It's not the consoles fault, nor is it yours, most likely. Popularity, however, can certainly sour quite a few things. Take your example, the music industry. I want to see artists I like succeed--always. There's a difference between success, however, and selling out. That's what Call of Duty did. That's what many a franchise do, and they do it to appeal more directly to a larger audience. Your pop music example in the "What's up" box actually supports this position. Call of Duty was not always a "pop" game. The masses will never be the best or brightest segment of any audience. And an exclusive club? Please. Anyone can buy a gaming PC, and anyone can play this or any other game on it. I welcome it. I encourage it.

And yes, consoles are easier and more convenient. That's largely why they represent the mass market.

I like consoles plenty. I do think that some games play much better on the PC, thanks to various input options, mods, servers, competition, and if you have the hardware.. performance. Those are cut and dry things. I like those things. Design is naturally a more subjective thing.. but it's my opinion that you simply don't get experiences like BF2 or the upcoming Red Orchestra 2 on consoles. Ease of use, and ease of entry are far too important.

As for the other issues--installations (i like running games off my SSD, thanks!), technical issues, etc etc.. they are equally undeniable. That's hardly a deal breaker for me, when I see the experience as being far superior, but I can see how it's prohibitive. Even a console port like BC2 is just better on a good PC. You can argue that it seems "very equal" on Xbox, but I hardly think that BF3 (a game that's already being a little watered down for that audience) will be anywhere close to equal. It can't be. That's not an insult. That's not bashing. That's just the breaks.

Personally, I think console-only gamers are a little too sensitive to the subject. If its your position that a game is much better on the PC, then suddenly you're bashing their platform of choice. If you want to play the game on an Xbox, more power to you.

PS. GRAW sucks.

Thanks.. tried to watch something similar earlier and it was quickly removed.

That guy doesn't seem to know what he's on about.. DX9? Since when does this game even use DX9? Destruction will be better in retail? I doubt it. That seems like a bit of a major piece of game design to stick in last minute. I'm sure other levels will have better destruction show pieces though.

I wonder what his specs are. That's already running pretty great.

Is this Bad Company? Some of these set pieces are a lot bigger than BC2 (the big ass buildings you can't enter, for example) and the maps in general are not only larger but more densely packed with stuff. It's a different game, with different limitations and different design. It's as simple as that. Destruction does seem to be toned down. I can deal with that.

BC2 Vietnam has no destruction. MoH uses frostbite and uses no destruction. I don't really see what your point is. They probably had to scale it back so they could scale everything else up.

I'm sure it was worth the trade.

Vietnam is awesome, and since this already looks 10x better than BC2 I don't know how it wouldn't be worth the trade.

TBH all destruction did was make me sprint to into a sniper when it collapsed anyway. Now I'll be able to go AFK for weeks.

But seriously, after playing BFBC2 and seeing footage I don't see how this can do any wrong.

I'm not really going to take one side or the other on this issue. I enjoy games with absolutely no destruction, and it's only recently become a trademark of a spin-off of the core franchise.

The game will speak for its self.

Sure, but I completely disagree that it put an end to military shooters with that sort of depth.. RO2 looks amazing.

Anywho.. downloading the alpha. I believe there's an NDA, but that seems have been mostly thrown out the window, hasn't it?

It is an alpha.. you sorta have to give them the benefit of the doubt here. I'm actually quite pleased with the games performance so far. Very cool.

I very much doubt that it will.. but I hope that people give them an earfull over it too.Randomly invited to the "alpha," which I guess is over on the first anyway.