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Since 7146 Days

No way in hell that's fake. No friggin way. Also, Frankie from 343 has already chimed in on some of the info, stating that much more will be made clear in a podcast. If it were fake, he would have already come out saying so. Also, that looks way too damn good to be fake.

I was initially confused about the proportions of the blue elite, but it's clear to me now. What I felt was its waste, was actually a piece of its exposed leg. I love the new design for the Elites. They look more realistically alien and menacing. I also dig seeing what appears to be unique skin patterns on different elites. Might seem meaningless, but that's a rather nice touch. Even with the best possible screens from Halo 3 or Halo Reach, neither of them ever looked this good, and these scans aren't even the greatest of quality. The difference is clear, however. I'm digging that 343 seems to be rocking the boat. And some are flipping out over some of those mp changes, but they all seem like very good things to me. Why not randomize where the weapons respawn so some people don't camp the hell out of specific weapons? And on instant respawn, what the hell does it really matter so long as you aren't always respawning right next to the person that just killed you, unless of course they are in the very location where everybody on your team spawns, and then whatever happens to the person still foolish enough to be in that location will simply just happen.

Also, that revolutionary sounding 4 player co-op that keeps getting expanded upon story wise in a fashion that is seemingly ambitious in a way similar to the singleplayer campaign, sounds pretty damn awesome to me. No firefight? Could really care less, to be honest. I always viewed it as a gimmick to help sell ODST,

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No way in hell that's fake. No friggin way. Also, Frankie from 343 has already chimed in on some of the info, stating that much more will be made clear in a podcast. If it were fake, he would have already come out saying so. Also, that looks way too damn good to be fake.

I was initially confused about the proportions of the blue elite, but it's clear to me now. What I felt was its waste, was actually a piece of its exposed leg. I love the new design for the Elites. They look more realistically alien and menacing. I also dig seeing what appears to be unique skin patterns on different elites. Might seem meaningless, but that's a rather nice touch. Even with the best possible screens from Halo 3 or Halo Reach, neither of them ever looked this good, and these scans aren't even the greatest of quality. The difference is clear, however. I'm digging that 343 seems to be rocking the boat. And some are flipping out over some of those mp changes, but they all seem like very good things to me. Why not randomize where the weapons respawn so some people don't camp the hell out of specific weapons? And on instant respawn, what the hell does it really matter so long as you aren't always respawning right next to the person that just killed you, unless of course they are in the very location where everybody on your team spawns, and then whatever happens to the person still foolish enough to be in that location will simply just happen.

Also, that revolutionary sounding 4 player co-op that keeps getting expanded upon story wise in a fashion that is seemingly ambitious in a way similar to the singleplayer campaign, sounds pretty damn awesome to me. No firefight? Could really care less, to be honest. I always viewed it as a gimmick to help sell ODST,

Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

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BLackHawkodst

Since 6141 Days

Correct ive just seen all 14page spread in HD, and read every drop of info, first off the SP shots looks amazing!, Cortana and the Elites look so lifelike, the previewer comments on how amazing the games looks even in the opening dim lit scenes, the lighting and shader tech has made tremendous leaps, and it all runs at true native 720p with added FXAA. The SP story info sounds amazing, i just want to play it now!, and the new spartan coop mode sounds awesome. Anyway back to reading it again :)

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Optimusv2

Since 7146 Days

Yea, the SP story info sounds damn amazing. That's the kind of vibe I was hoping they'd go for. Hell, the opening sounds like something straight out of Halo : Combat Evolved, only potentially even more badass.

And the tech talk is music to my ears :)

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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

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Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

Viginti_Tres

Since 6756 Days

From what little I gathered about the MP they are about to destroy that part of the game completely. Powerweapons falling randomly out of the sky, instant respawns, sprint and armor abilities. Unless they plan to make the maps completely flat (=boring and slow paced) this will not work. So I guess they'll go with bad maps... it's not like they didn't have enough experience making those since Halo 3.

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Sath

Since 7121 Days

Looks awesome, just the fact its 720p native I am happy lol
Anyways, I want horde mode like Halo Reach had it :(

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BLackHawkodst

Since 6141 Days

Yeah, and the more i read about specops the more i love the idea, new story content and missions every week.. :)

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Optimusv2

Since 7146 Days

It's pretty much a weekly television series, only in the form of a videogame. How cool is that?

I really don't see how randomized weapon drops hurts the experience. Nobody should just be able to camp a specific spot and always have a shot at getting a particular weapon. Force them to utilize more of the map if they want that power weapon. Instant respawns are something I can at least see as worthy of concern, having been a pretty hardcore counter-strike player that liked the thought of someone being dead for a period of time until they are able to respawn again. Get rid of this mad dash for a particular weapon that takes place. It, i think, allows for even more strategic, skill based play due to the fact that finding that specific weapon -- I assume after it has been grabbed at least once -- will be more challenging.

Sprint always seemed like common sense. Glad it was nixed as an armor ability. These are spartan super soldiers for goodness sake, I would think that sprinting really fast in that armor of theirs wasn't an issue. Armor abilities I really don't mind so much, to be honest. These MP changes don't sound anywhere near as controversial to me as it does to others, even if I wasn't a big Halo MP player.

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It's pretty much a weekly television series, only in the form of a videogame. How cool is that?

I really don't see how randomized weapon drops hurts the experience. Nobody should just be able to camp a specific spot and always have a shot at getting a particular weapon. Force them to utilize more of the map if they want that power weapon. Instant respawns are something I can at least see as worthy of concern, having been a pretty hardcore counter-strike player that liked the thought of someone being dead for a period of time until they are able to respawn again. Get rid of this mad dash for a particular weapon that takes place. It, i think, allows for even more strategic, skill based play due to the fact that finding that specific weapon -- I assume after it has been grabbed at least once -- will be more challenging.

Sprint always seemed like common sense. Glad it was nixed as an armor ability. These are spartan super soldiers for goodness sake, I would think that sprinting really fast in that armor of theirs wasn't an issue. Armor abilities I really don't mind so much, to be honest. These MP changes don't sound anywhere near as controversial to me as it does to others, even if I wasn't a big Halo MP player.

Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

Optimusv2

Since 7146 Days

You cannot start with snipers whenever you want. (unless you are playing a sniper mode)
The weapon drops are not "random." They are telegraphed and in some ways, predictable. There is variation, however. Map control will still be key, but yes, changed. Custom games will be heavily customizeable, and initial playlists will be clean and focused. Players will not be presented with stacksof lists, but there will be variety for different tastes.

From Frankie.

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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

Optimusv2

Since 7146 Days

I'm seriously digging the hell out of the look of the inside of that ship from the first person shots we have. It's such a basic area, but something about it just looks so damn amazing.

I can't wait to get direct feed screenshots of the stuff in the magazine. I really want to get better looks at all this stuff.

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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

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Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

fabreezwait

Since 5434 Days

Cortanas new look is freaking me out, she looks so alive!!, cant wait for direct feed either.

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ManThatYouFear

Since 7198 Days

Anyone still playing reach MP here?

My xbox just rrod on me, just checked no paste on gpu or cpu o.0 fucking heat is immense, so fixing her up at moment, but does anyone fancy some game time on reach later?

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fabreezwait

Since 5434 Days

sold my copy a while ago to get some new games.

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Phaethon360

Since 7100 Days

I'll play with you guys. You're all my friends :). *hugs each and every one of you*

Eww. One of you stinks. No more hugs for you.

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Optimusv2

Since 7146 Days

Posted by Phaethon360

I'll play with you guys. You're all my friends :). *hugs each and every one of you*

Eww. One of you stinks. No more hugs for you.

Well, I just got done playing basketball, so there! *runs away crying*

Cortana looks great. In what little was shown of her, you really get the sense that she's feeling some type of emotion based on what you see, which is already a step up. In previous games, this type of emotion had to be mostly carried by the voice acting and music. It's funny that an artificial intelligence will be the most realistically expressive human looking character in a halo game that we've ever seen :)

Also, I don't know why the heck it took me so long to notice it, but I kinda like the extra bluish outline at the top and bottom of the HUD, making it more obvious that you're wearing a helmet that's apart of a super suit. Like the little touches. There were a lot of little neat capabilities that you read about in the books that just weren't present in the games. I also personally wouldn't mind there being times in the campaign when a small window containing a video feed showing Cortana's face or something as she speaks to the Chief popping up every now and then to further drive home the fact that you're wearing a helmet that is apart of an extremely high tech piece of super armor. Heck, we've already seen that the Chief's armor possesses such video capability since back in Halo: Combat Evolved.

Also, if I read the Gameinformer article correctly, it seems as if Cortana herself might have modified her body or appearance in some fashion to appear more attractive to the Chief? And if so, maybe she would also want him to see the fruits of her labor more often than he normally would while she's inside his suit. *has alternative motives* :P

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[quote=Phaethon360]I'll play with you guys. You're all my friends :). *hugs each and every one of you*

Eww. One of you stinks. No more hugs for you.[/quote]

Well, I just got done playing basketball, so there! *runs away crying*

Cortana looks great. In what little was shown of her, you really get the sense that she's feeling [b]some[/b] type of emotion based on what you see, which is already a step up. In previous games, this type of emotion had to be mostly carried by the voice acting and music. It's funny that an artificial intelligence will be the most realistically expressive human looking character in a halo game that we've ever seen :)

Also, I don't know why the heck it took me so long to notice it, but I kinda like the extra bluish outline at the top and bottom of the HUD, making it more obvious that you're wearing a helmet that's apart of a super suit. Like the little touches. There were a lot of little neat capabilities that you read about in the books that just weren't present in the games. I also personally wouldn't mind there being times in the campaign when a small window containing a video feed showing Cortana's face or something as she speaks to the Chief popping up every now and then to further drive home the fact that you're wearing a helmet that is apart of an extremely high tech piece of super armor. Heck, we've already seen that the Chief's armor possesses such video capability since back in Halo: Combat Evolved.

Also, if I read the Gameinformer article correctly, it seems as if Cortana herself might have modified her body or appearance in some fashion to appear more attractive to the Chief? And if so, maybe she would also want him to see the fruits of her labor more often than he normally would while she's inside his suit. *has alternative motives* :P

Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

Optimusv2

Since 7146 Days

You guys should check out the digital gameinformer direct feed releases of the Halo 4 screenshots. No way those graphics are legit. I'm not being fooled. You guys have to see this crap to believe it. I don't know what game this generation comes close to that.

The fidelity on those graphics are just not possible on the 360.

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Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

ManThatYouFear

Since 7198 Days

Thats not this gen.

But the game always looks 300 times better when in theater mode and rem that is where those would be taken.

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Optimusv2

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Thats not this gen.

Hell no it isn't.

On the theater mode thing, even theatre mode wouldn't make the game look THAT good. That's seriously just at a whole other level. It kinda makes me wish Halo 4 was coming to the PC, because that's pretty much honestly the only place we'll be seeing graphics like that. I could even live with Microsoft making it some kind of Windows 8 exclusive game. We will not be playing something that looks this amazing on our 360s, and if we are, I'd be so happy that I'd literally buy someone on here a copy of the game along with my own when it comes out.

The SP shots look taken straight out of cutscenes and gameplay. We even have first person shots with hud and all. Halo pre-release screenshots have never looked anywhere near this good, and even though they did look better than the actual game, these screens for Halo 4 are just way too good to be true. It's arguable that if they achieved half the graphical fidelity showcased in these screens that this might very well be the most impressive looking next gen title this generation, but I just don't know if it's possible. One thing, however, the art is leaps above previous Halo stuff. I'll give it that. The art is drastically improved, and that's an understatement.

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[quote=ManThatYouFear]Thats not this gen.[/quote]

Hell no it isn't.

On the theater mode thing, even theatre mode wouldn't make the game look THAT good. That's seriously just at a whole other level. It kinda makes me wish Halo 4 was coming to the PC, because that's pretty much honestly the only place we'll be seeing graphics like that. I could even live with Microsoft making it some kind of Windows 8 exclusive game. We will not be playing something that looks this amazing on our 360s, and if we are, I'd be so happy that I'd literally buy someone on here a copy of the game along with my own when it comes out.

The SP shots look taken straight out of cutscenes and gameplay. We even have first person shots with hud and all. Halo pre-release screenshots have never looked anywhere near this good, and even though they did look better than the actual game, these screens for Halo 4 are just way too good to be true. It's arguable that if they achieved half the graphical fidelity showcased in these screens that this might very well be the most impressive looking next gen title this generation, but I just don't know if it's possible. One thing, however, the art is leaps above previous Halo stuff. I'll give it that. The art is drastically improved, and that's an understatement.

Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

Optimusv2

Since 7146 Days

Best guess I can come up with if any of that is even remotely legit is the scale and size of the battles has been toned down quite a bit and the battles are now split up into smaller, more contained engagements with the more open looking environments mostly being for show and, in reality, you're really more isolated to much smaller sandbox environments than previous next gen Halo titles.

Heck, I'm not exactly opposed to that idea, so long as the quality and presentation of the battles go up in some meaningful way. I suspect 343 will bring enemy levels back down to what they were like back in halo one and two, as opposed to the drastically increased numbers that we saw in Halo 3 and Reach. It can definitely work, as it isn't always about numbers. I'd take smaller, more quality engagements over just having more numbers tossed at me with nothing really special or meaningful happening anyway. It would benefit all kinds of classic Halo battles that we've come to know and love in some pretty interesting ways if 343 did things right.

I have an open mind, but that's the only scenario in which I could even remotely begin to believe these screenshots are anywhere remotely close to representative of what we'll be playing. I must admit, though, even the vidoc showcased in bits and pieces some pretty amazing visuals that I would say are probably on par with or at least close to being on par with these screens. Because I gotta admit, having a lot more numbers hasn't exactly automatically led to more rewarding combat. In Halo: Combat evolved or Halo 2, with the numbers as they were, something about those battles just felt far more intimate and personal. I'd love nothing more than to see Halo go back to that.

I'm not advocating for super tiny battles or anything like that, but I wouldn't mind a focus on more rewarding and high quality combat over tossing out a bunch of enemies and then fighting until they're all dead. I think because of that mentality we could possibly be losing a piece of what made fights in Halo feel so special and rewarding. For example, I will not lie, it's still more rewarding to kill enemies in the Halo: Combat Evolved and to a lesser extent, in the Halo 2 campaign, than it is to kill them in either Halo 3 or Halo Reach. That really and truly should never be the case, but I kinda feel that it is. Maybe Halo 4 can start towards rectifying this. Make the battles feel more personal and visceral again. Maybe give Elites and other enemies a few new interesting tricks that, when used against the player, more make up for the decrease in overall numbers because it's a different kind of challenge to try and deal with.

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Best guess I can come up with if any of that is even remotely legit is the scale and size of the battles has been toned down quite a bit and the battles are now split up into smaller, more contained engagements with the more open looking environments mostly being for show and, in reality, you're really more isolated to much smaller sandbox environments than previous next gen Halo titles.

Heck, I'm not exactly opposed to that idea, so long as the quality and presentation of the battles go up in some meaningful way. I suspect 343 will bring enemy levels back down to what they were like back in halo one and two, as opposed to the drastically increased numbers that we saw in Halo 3 and Reach. It can definitely work, as it isn't always about numbers. I'd take smaller, more quality engagements over just having more numbers tossed at me with nothing really special or meaningful happening anyway. It would benefit all kinds of classic Halo battles that we've come to know and love in some pretty interesting ways if 343 did things right.

I have an open mind, but that's the only scenario in which I could even remotely begin to believe these screenshots are anywhere remotely close to representative of what we'll be playing. I must admit, though, even the vidoc showcased in bits and pieces some pretty amazing visuals that I would say are probably on par with or at least close to being on par with these screens. Because I gotta admit, having a lot more numbers hasn't exactly automatically led to more rewarding combat. In Halo: Combat evolved or Halo 2, with the numbers as they were, something about those battles just felt far more intimate and personal. I'd love nothing more than to see Halo go back to that.

I'm not advocating for super tiny battles or anything like that, but I wouldn't mind a focus on more rewarding and high quality combat over tossing out a bunch of enemies and then fighting until they're all dead. I think because of that mentality we could possibly be losing a piece of what made fights in Halo feel so special and rewarding. For example, I will not lie, it's still more rewarding to kill enemies in the Halo: Combat Evolved and to a lesser extent, in the Halo 2 campaign, than it is to kill them in either Halo 3 or Halo Reach. That really and truly should never be the case, but I kinda feel that it is. Maybe Halo 4 can start towards rectifying this. Make the battles feel more personal and visceral again. Maybe give Elites and other enemies a few new interesting tricks that, when used against the player, more make up for the decrease in overall numbers because it's a different kind of challenge to try and deal with.

Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

ManThatYouFear

Since 7198 Days

Current gen optimus.. not "previous next gen" :)

I dont want smaller battles :(

Please be launch title for next gen machine this year which they will announce this E3..

And released on 360 as well of course.

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Optimusv2

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Well, I honestly don't see how they pull off visuals like that on anything but smaller battles. I mean, they can sure as hell fake it effectively enough. Developers have done that sort of thing pretty well all gen. Call of Duty has done it pretty effectively. I'm not suggesting some linear, corridor type Halo game or anything like that, but if the battles were somehow made to feel better and more rewarding, perhaps it could actually work. Believe it or not, my favorite battles in Halo 3 and Reach were probably the smaller combat engagements, where I'd probably get it down to a smaller group of enemies with the occasional badass or sets of badasses backing them up, which then naturally allowed me more room to operate within the large sandbox environment and do some more creative things.

I like sometimes being backed into a tough position where I have to hold down a position and pretty much try and pick off enemies bit by bit before I can make my move, but I think when the battles become too much of that sort of thing it kinda hurts the experience. There's a reason Halo: Combat Evolved is still so much damn fun. They didn't have the luxury and power in the console to just toss out this massive number of enemies at you, so they were forced to be a bit more creative with the combat set pieces. The power of the 360 in some ways led to a bit of laziness.

Well, if anything, the graphics give me some hope that they likely ditched the split screen crap. God I can't stand split screen. It will not help or hurt the sales of the game any, in all honesty. Sure, it might piss some people off, but it won't piss them off enough to not buy it.

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Well, I honestly don't see how they pull off visuals like that on anything but smaller battles. I mean, they can sure as hell fake it effectively enough. Developers have done that sort of thing pretty well all gen. Call of Duty has done it pretty effectively. I'm not suggesting some linear, corridor type Halo game or anything like that, but if the battles were somehow made to feel better and more rewarding, perhaps it could actually work. Believe it or not, my favorite battles in Halo 3 and Reach were probably the smaller combat engagements, where I'd probably get it down to a smaller group of enemies with the occasional badass or sets of badasses backing them up, which then naturally allowed me more room to operate within the large sandbox environment and do some more creative things.

I like sometimes being backed into a tough position where I have to hold down a position and pretty much try and pick off enemies bit by bit before I can make my move, but I think when the battles become too much of that sort of thing it kinda hurts the experience. There's a reason Halo: Combat Evolved is still so much damn fun. They didn't have the luxury and power in the console to just toss out this massive number of enemies at you, so they were forced to be a bit more creative with the combat set pieces. The power of the 360 in some ways led to a bit of laziness.

Well, if anything, the graphics give me some hope that they likely ditched the split screen crap. God I can't stand split screen. It will not help or hurt the sales of the game any, in all honesty. Sure, it might piss some people off, but it won't piss them off enough to not buy it.

Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

BLackHawkodst

Since 6141 Days

I dont get why you both doubt them, i think as amazing as they look, they can very much be done on the 360, hell Corrie Yu? already came out and stated that this is the best looking game they have ever achived in all there careers, so she and the team must be proud of something right...

I cant see the GI ones do you have to be a subscriber? but i did find so other ones...

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ManThatYouFear

Since 7198 Days

I never understand you on this, you hate splitscreen? fair enough but why take it out? it does not effect you if you dont use it, they dont design games around it.. not like the finished product suffers for having it
its a option for people who for instance like me have 2 kids who like to play with each other, and you can get fucked if you think i am buying them a machine each.

Its a option, its optional, you dont have to use it, it does not hinder your experience in anyway what so ever yes the effects lower IN split screen but only IN split screen, hell my nippers use the 4 way in MP as well when there friends come round and been as though there screaming the house down laughing, i dont think its a bad thing.. i am yet to have my kids and there mates come up to me and go "sir" (damn straight mofo) "sir, please next game you buy us can it not have split screen, we are finding it is making our experience less fun"

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ManThatYouFear

Since 7198 Days

Img 9 of the game informer pics, texture of left arm of the elite and the "lines" in his armour.. they have "this gen looK" when looking at it enough you can kinda see it is this gen, just a damn good fucking job.

The new uncharted?

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BLackHawkodst

Since 6141 Days

do you have to be a subscriber to GI?

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ManThatYouFear

Since 7198 Days

Posted by BLackHawkodst

do you have to be a subscriber to GI?

i'm not..
Try that link.

Anyways when is the next books out? sequal to glasslands and final part of the foreunner trilogy?

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