This instant spawning is fucking shit i hate it.
And spawning me in front of the opposition is getting boring now.. i spawned behind a guy who got sniped in the head.. the bullet then went through me as well.. all i saw was a kill cam on spawn..

And the fact 343 do not reply to ANYTHING on there boards makes me worried slightly

thing is i do love the game it is great, single player and spartan ops is fantastic, need changing slightly..

Single player needs opening up a "bit" more..
Spartan ops.. STOP RECYCLING! i understand why story wise, but the story has gone that direction JUST so they can recycle..

MP i have no issue with the load outs
I have slight issues with ordnance i miss the battles just to get the power weopens
I WANT MY OLD FUCKING MAPS! i want the tried and tested awesomeness that is battle creak blood gulch and that one with the wheel named after the pub near me.. i hate Valhalla..
instant spawns are shoddy they do not increase the speed of the game enough to warrant them, before you used to wipe out the team as fast as possible so you had a few seconds of peace to gather power weopens.. but whats the point of that when everyone has them essentially?

Battle Rifle.. fix this shit there is no reason to pick it over the DMR.

and 4 games in a row last night started out with me and a other guy vs a full team..it could of easily fixed this by using 3v3 ... but nooooo..

And fix the grenade arch just for me please i can not adjust
And once you done that.. FIX THE FUCKING GRENADES!

And this is not the games fault but the players
If your NOT working in pairs your fucked, i kill get killed kill get killed kill get killed get killed at spawn get killed at spawn get a kill get killed get double kill get killed spawn killed.. rinse and repeat
IF i'm with friends working in pairs you rip the opposition apart, it is a lot harder i find to survive on this compared to past games, Reach you could go all rambo when ever you wanted you never had to rely on others
I still get teamed up with players who are all rambo..

objective based games, thank you very much 343i for making k/d such a big thing in this game.. because i end up on teams in objective games who only want to farm there k/d and ignore the hill.
how to fix k/d dont have it count on objective games.

Yeah me andy mates are having a blast with Spartan Ops can wait for the next episode and chapters :)

agreed

But i can not argue with Phaethon it i, the writing is total dog shit "lets get crimson some new toys" STOP FUCKING SAYING THAT YOU STUPID BITCH! her voice is grating and goes through me like a hot fucking blade through butter..

And Roland who is this dick where did he come from all of a sudden, he is about as funny as injecting cancer into the tip of my penis and watching it fester for flys to lay eggs in and then having a male nurse suck it out after not brushing his teeth for a year and living on a diet of yak shit.

the voice acting of the red vs blue guys and the writing of them is vastly better than 343i effort..

and yes the glitches.. god the glitches..

i have seen them just stand there and take head shots.. to phantoms vanishing as i shoot them.

First off: In king of the hill, there have always been guys who NEVER went for the hill.

BR and grenades beeing shit, nothing to argue about...

But now imagine Blood Gulch with Halo4 loadouts and weapons.
Imo blood gulch was so much fun in previous Halos because vehicles were worth a shit.
In Halo 4 with the DMRs and the Plasma pistols as start-weapon, you wouldn't survive longer than a minute in any of the vehicles, especially in a map as wide open as Blood Gulch...It would end up with people shooting each other of the bases with DMR...

I still kind of love the game, but there are so many little things I hate about the game that I seriously am on the fence...

when i say classic maps i'm also implying that they classic there asses as well (same as reach) no ability no load outs no ordnance no sprint no new weapons just 100% classic
and put it in the playlists but not just slayer a playlist for classic and all the variants come up in that one list so it is not everyone playing slayer.

not hard to do...

also i know that's the player fault, did say.

yeah.. i'm pretty much one of these people.. but beyond all its flaws, still love it :D

but like anything, it could be soooooooo much more :(

Spartan Ops is soooooo much fun in coop, episodes are a good bit of lore expansion, would i buy a season 2????? not sure yet, but if all my mates jumped in, then i'd have too i guess, just ot keep up with the banter and Halo goodness :)

If it was all recycled shit again then no i would not pay it.

i want them to flash a decent amount of areas off before i put money down, or i will wait for the season to be over and see if it is worth it.

but i do love this every week there been something new (can i say new?) to do on the game each week

Enjoying the Spartan Ops season, not sure about paying for season 2, like MTYF i would had to see some new locals or enemies to entice me.

One thing bothering the heck out of me:

When do I get to see the kill-cam and when not?!

@Grift
I feel like beeing one of those people you described...
if it was CoD, I'd say its shit. But since it is Halo, my favourite fps by far for over 10 years, I force myself to not hate it and call the many things it does entirely wrong just little flaws...

What does that say about me? I am a franchise-whore...sigh!

Totally. Chode chocking worthy.

I don't like any of the characters in SPOPs. Excluding Halsey and Lasky, mainly because I know their backstory and they aren't annoying.

I would like to play OPs more but I get nasty input lag and for the life of me I can't seem to fix it.

And it is sad that they cut Firefight to make the OPs more worthwhile.

EDIT: It's odd, I can definitely pick the it apart on its flaws, but it's still a great game.

I'm playing through campaign on Legendary, and man it's kicking my ass. It's making me enjoy the levels a lot more though. They've still got that 'fuck, that didn't work, what if I try taking this approach' feel to 'em.

Love SPOPS. I definitely could use new locals, but it's so fun I don't mind too much. I usually play solo, too. It's so overwhelming it's awesome.

I love the little story, especially nice seeing 'Jul and the intrigue with the artifacts and weather the Librarian can really be reanimated is cool. I think the writing is fine. The Spartan 4's are soldiers, and they talk/act like it. I think the point is that they aren't as perfect as the Spartan 2's- way more like giant regular soldiers, and Halsey pretty much makes that point.

I don't get the griping about vehicles- I usually do pretty well with them( especially the ghost) and I love that I can still take one out myself. I saw people bitching about the Mantis, but they aren't hard to take out at all, imo. Plasma pistol, baby! I wasn't feeling the MP initially, but aside from the camo/camping/shotgun/rockets, I've really been having a blast...

Yeah they are the new ODSTs I guess. Helljumpers were supposed to be dicks. 'cept in Halo:ODST.

It's only natural that people would have various nitpicks or complaints about things they didn't like all that much in any game they play. Spartan Ops isn't perfect, but it's pretty good for what it is. It's just a nice distraction, with some fiction justification tossed in. The writing in Spartan Ops is definitely weaker than in the Campaign, but everyone should have been prepared for that possibility, I know I was. Excitement isn't a replacement for reality. Every Halo title (leaving out ODST, because I refused to bother with it) has been a truly great game that could've benefitted from some tweaks, and Halo 4 is no different.

I've had complaints about every Halo title in one form or another, with by far my biggest complaints about any Halo title, having to do specifically with Halo 3. They don't stop it from being a great game (they rarely do), but it was the one Halo title I felt gave me the most to legitimately complain about at a certain level. How the death of Miranda and Johnson were handled, the Cortana conflict thing being a big tease, ultimately leading to nothing, the really average cutscenes, the horrible visibility at key points in the game, but most glaringly weak, in the game's opening level. I've never had to move so close to a television to get a clear look at what was happening as I had to do in Halo 3. It hurt the experience. I remember saying around the time of Halo 3 and COD4 that I felt that COD4's campaign felt far more exciting and epic than did Halo 3's, which I thought was a silly thing to happen, and provided reasons for why. In many ways, COD4 ruined Halo 3 for me.

Now, since I bought Halo 4 largely for the SP campaign, which I really do feel delivered beyond what I had hoped, I've naturally come away feeling pretty damn pleased with Halo 4 as a whole. Does that mean I don't have nitpicks about the campaign? Of course not, I've already listed my Halo 4 Campaign nitpicks, but they weren't quite enough to detract away from what was an otherwise impressive game in a number of ways. What also helped more to deal with those nitpicks, was the game's, I thought, fantastic pacing. All said and done, of any Halo campaign I've played, taking into account the combination of having the least of significance to complain about, with it also being handled so well from a cutscene, gameplay, pacing, story and character point of view, it comes away as the one I've enjoyed the most. So rather than call it the best Halo campaign ever, I'll simply call Halo 4 my favorite Halo Campaign ever.

I also think, from a character standpoint in Spartan Ops, there's a clear effort to separate these "Spartans" from the more effective and almost legendary Spartan IIs that Halsey oversaw. The Spartan 4s are meant to be viewed more as ODSTs with some Mjolnir armor, and not quite in the same ways as more awesome Spartans such as Master Chief, Linda, Kelly, Fred etc. Forerunners had their ranks, too. The Didact was a warrior servant that had reached the maximum rank for such, a Promethean, and there had to be others beneath him who weren't. So, think of Halsey's Spartan IIs as the cream of the crop for Spartans, and these Spartan 4s as mere footsoldiers by comparison. That's how I see them.

Edit Froz, I totally second the interest around following Jul. He has come quite a ways since the books, eh :)

Don't post a summary Optimus, I want a detailed post.

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topic ruined :P

Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal... :P

NO ONE should have to pay for SPOPS season 2 if this is the best that they've got.

so many complainers...i think halo 4 is a great game overall. i do agree that spec ops needs some work, but we got the first season free so just dont buy season 2...thatll tell em

Spartan ops 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXW-gr9WqjE&feature...

:)