Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7104 Days
I am definitetly gonna keep playing NG2 without the doubt, but Mentor has to wait until I am REALLY good and know what wepaon works best on what enemy.

Lunar, LVL2 and 3...XXY, twice on those mechas, kills them, same with werevolves.

But again ACE, AC is not trying to be this challenging like NG is trying, it is a different genre, different mechanic of its gameplay.

AI, sure I will give you that, it is a bit clunky and slow.
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 7223 Days
Posted by ACEfromRussia
Ronsauce
lol
only noobs cryes about "bad camera" and "unavoidable attacks"
No. People who play a lot of games and no what's good and what's bad do...as well as people whose job it is to play a lot of games and review them, and almost all of them are on my side.

Way to call me a "noob" though despite my beating it on a harder difficulty than you. I hate to keep bringing that up, but you kind of keep asking for it.
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ACEfromRussia
ACEfromRussia
Since 6794 Days
Posted by Sath
I am definitetly gonna keep playing NG2 without the doubt, but Mentor has to wait until I am REALLY good and know what wepaon works best on what enemy.

Lunar, LVL2 and 3...XXY, twice on those mechas, kills them, same with werevolves.

But again ACE, AC is not trying to be this challenging like NG is trying, it is a different genre, different mechanic of its gameplay.

AI, sure I will give you that, it is a bit clunky and slow.
1) Good choice.
2)
3)Yep, thats why I love NG1 and NG2 and don't like AC gameplay
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 7223 Days
Posted by PlumbDrumb
Oh, like the first Ninja Gaiden? Yeah.
Sure...? I don't remember making any comparisons to the first Ninja Gaiden.
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PlumbDrumb - Still drinking
PlumbDrumb
Since 7232 Days
and of course, it's all about you?
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JackDick
JackDick
Since 6262 Days
Posted by ACEfromRussia
Ronsauce
only noobs cryes about "bad camera" and "unavoidable attacks"
about 80% of the people who play NG2 say this about it...so i guess we're all noobs? Or maybe some people are just blinded by their own persistant fanboyish attitudes that they wont accept that this game bombed in alot of areas since the first one came out.

shit dude, I remember playing Ninja Gaiden on NES when it just came out i was like 7, and I've loved the series all the way up to NG on Xbox. If there was anyone who wanted this game to be awesome it was me, but im not someone who pretends to like a game just because i had such high hopes for it...im a fan of Ninja Gaiden too, but im also honest enough to admit to alot of the screw-ups they made with this game...
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 7223 Days
Well, you did quote me.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7104 Days
ACE, that is what I did with the first NG, I kept playing NG on Normal when I knew how hard the Very Hard was.

But still, years of playing NG and mastered the combat perfectly and beat it on MN, you are still gonna have alot of problems with the combat, sometimes no sometimes yes.

Alot of replay to get over with the chapter.

Well that is your personal taste in combat between NG and AC, but comparing them is not the same.

It makes more sense to compare NG to DMC because they are the best in this type of genre.

But like I said, I still stand with this game being unbalanced.

PS. How come regular ninjas and soldiers can run a few seconds faster than Ryu?
Isn't ninjas suppose to be fast as the wind when it comes to speed, running is in the speed category, it's not like there is a stamina bar for Ryu.

This was in the first NG as well, but then we have the advatage on this speed thing...jump roll/dodge thing :P
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PlumbDrumb - Still drinking
PlumbDrumb
Since 7232 Days
exactly.
I was referring to the cheap camera and the fucking retarded difficulty, just like you were.

I doesn't take a "hardcore gamer" to see the faults in the last game and it seems somebody didn't take that into account for the sequel.

I could really give a shit though.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7104 Days
Posted by JackDick
Same here, NG is my most played game EVER, and as a hardcore fanboy of NG (have a NG2 poster on my wall) and knwoing each different detail NG had.
I wanted this to be just as great as NG was, but some parts of the game is awesome like OT, more brutal and longer UTs...etc. but the unbalancing for the enemies is what breaks it for me.

Ah well, it doesn't matter if I beat MN or Mentor, because I don't gain anything in terms of gameplay or visual anyway, as long as I have fun (which is on Warrior) I will kepe playing it.

PS. The outfits for this game is absolutely sick to look at, hidious crap.
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JackDick
JackDick
Since 6262 Days
Posted by Sath
Posted by JackDick
PS. The outfits for this game is absolutely sick to look at, hidious crap.
lol. thats good to know since i rented it cause i only beat it on acolyte. so i was kinda disappointed i never got to use any unlocked costumes. but i guess i didnt miss out on anything great huh.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7104 Days
nope.

Default outfit design with different colors...hidious content.

The first NG had different unique designs, but this, nothing...money hats bastards!
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ACEfromRussia
ACEfromRussia
Since 6794 Days
JackDick
Do u see difference betrwen "cry" and "say"?
Camera simply optimized in menu - just increase its sensitivity in the menu and use RT,
and if u cool with dodges - u can never be captured with "unavoidable attacks"(may be exept super fire attack of 2 dragond in the jungle, but that was most easy bosses - killed wit 1-2 black hole nimpo level 3) and yes, if people cant realize this simple things - they are noobz
Posted by Sath
It makes more sense to compare NG to DMC because they are the best in this type of genre.
Yep, but only DMC1 and 3 for me, DMC 2 and 4 even more shitty than AC
imo
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7104 Days
I liked DMC2, liked to play with Lucia :D
The acrobatic moves they added was cool.

DMC4..backtracking, lack of enemies, lack of levels...made it bad!
Forcing me to play as Nero and not Dante from day 1 is not gonna win me over to DMC.

Dante or no DMC.

And still, Assassins Creed is NOT in the same genre AT ALL to be compared to these type of titles.

Anyway...

I gotta say, Art of Pheonix looks beautiful when used, very very awesome visual, love the small details like feathers around them is falling when they are swinging their wings, very great.

I upgraded my Art of Phoenix ninpo to lvl2 now, so hopefully it helps more against those soldiers...which I have yet to counter.
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 7223 Days
Posted by ACEfromRussia
Camera simply optimized in menu - just increase its sensitivity in the menu and use RT,
The "optimized' camera in NG2 is still a shitty camera. Pressing the right trigger doesn't work if you're in really close quarters. It's not a matter of being a "noob" or not understanding the gameplay; the camera sucks.
and if u cool with dodges - u can never be captured with "unavoidable attacks"(may be exept super fire attack of 2 dragond in the jungle
Bullshit. I don't see how it's possible to avoid grabs that aren't telegraphed in any way and basically happen instantly. Maybe it doesn't happen on the infant difficulty, but you've entrenched yourself so deep in your fanboy bunker than you wouldn't admit it even if it did happen to you. Also, you can avoid all of the fire attacks from the 2 dragons in the jungle. Someone who wasn't a noob would know this.
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PlumbDrumb - Still drinking
PlumbDrumb
Since 7232 Days
get this guys, Ronsause is not a noob!!!
Holy shit I care!!!!

Why do you have to be so cruel about it, eh?
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7104 Days
Ron...the camera is good...sometimes, but sometimes it gives you so much death because of it that sucks.

I see the camera is half-assed.
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 7223 Days
Posted by PlumbDrumb
get this guys, Ronsause is not a noob!!!
Holy shit I care!!!!

Why do you have to be so cruel about it, eh?
You seem to care enough to comment on it. I don't see how I was cruel...at least any more so than ACE.
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PlumbDrumb - Still drinking
PlumbDrumb
Since 7232 Days
Of course I care enough to post, isn't that what we do here?

I just want to make sure you don't totally bitch a mother fucker out because you think you are so fucking awesome.

So here I am.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7104 Days
Aqua Capital...Warrior...Dragon Sword master.

The water dragon boss...fucking bullshit!

When bosses grabs you and you want to heal yourself before it kills you, you CANT.

Can't bring up the menu through d-pad nor START.
Even if you can bring up the d-pad menu the game won't freeze so you can heal yourself, and START won't even show up.

This is another example of bullshit game design that was available on NG and NG Sigma (without the p-ad menu on NG and dp-ad menu freeze on NG Sigma).

Stuff like this is why I hate the game even more!'

Edit: killed it!
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LEBATO - IS WRONG
LEBATO
Since 7360 Days
LOL, what happened here.

The game was cheap at the end on Acolyte. Cheap in the way that it was very unexpected. How was I supposed to know I was going to fight 3 bosses? The same happened in NG1, but back then I could carry a million health packs, and two rebirth whatever they are called. And I got to the final boss (at least I think), they guy on the top who flies and grabs you and gets half of your health.

Anyways, I just wasn't ready and now I have to replay all three bosses, this time I'm maxing out my items.

That last boss is cheap though, there is no clear way to attacking him, and his attacks are way too damaging, and coming from two previous bosses is just UNFAIR. I'm going to beat it right now, but it was cheap in its own way. And also, his grab is very unpredictable, by the time you can tell he already has you and half of your health is gone.


Having said that I still love this freaking game, cheap moments and all, I think the gameplay in this game is unmatched, even with the camera problems.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7104 Days
The gameplay is unmatched yes...but that is where it all ends, atleast in NG2 anyway.
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Viginti_Tres
Viginti_Tres
Since 6740 Days
Really don't see what the fuss is about. On warrior I died now and then, but everything was far from impossible. What I didn't like were the fights on water, just hate it when you can't block for shit and can loose 3/4 of your health just like that. The waterdragon wasn't that strong either, I actually managed to get on his back and claw combos do a lot of damage to him, the finisher on that thing is incredible.

On Acolyte it was a breeze most of the time, there were some moments when I died (most of the time due to low focus or when a new enemy appeared and I didn't know how to effectively get rid of him).

I'm far away from being able to do it on mentor, still have to train for it. You guys can call the game cheap all you want, but the more you learn about it the better you get. People who play the game on mentor usually know more about the game than we do. It's meant to be like that, for people who are willing to invest some time into the game. If you're not the type then well you don't belong to the target group.

I like the way it is (minus the camera). I don't think either of these NGs are better. NGB's combatsystem is very technical, because you usually faced the enemys one by one. In NG 2 we have weapons that are capeable to deal with multiple enemys at once, the gameplay accomodated to the faster pace of the game and that's a lot harder to learn imo. And usually it won't be possible to evade every single attack because there are way too many things to keep an eye on.
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GriftGFX
Since 7238 Days
That's because you're hardcore Viginti, everyone who's crying needs to go play Ninja Dog cause they've totally been identified as casual gamers. Everyone knows that if you can see how poorly designed Ninja Gaiden's AI and difficulty structure is, that you are automatically confined to this category of sub-awesome-gamer. Even bringing up the games potential flaws brings your apparent failing as a gamer to light, and honestly, you should all probably just quit gaming all together, or go play GTGAY or Prince of Puppies.

LOL casuals!!!>>>>
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JackDick
JackDick
Since 6262 Days
Posted by LEBATO
LOL, what happened here.

The game was cheap at the end on Acolyte. Cheap in the way that it was very unexpected. How was I supposed to know I was going to fight 3 bosses? The same happened in NG1, but back then I could carry a million health packs, and two rebirth whatever they are called. And I got to the final boss (at least I think), they guy on the top who flies and grabs you and gets half of your health.

Anyways, I just wasn't ready and now I have to replay all three bosses, this time I'm maxing out my items.

That last boss is cheap though, there is no clear way to attacking him, and his attacks are way too damaging, and coming from two previous bosses is just UNFAIR. I'm going to beat it right now, but it was cheap in its own way. And also, his grab is very unpredictable, by the time you can tell he already has you and half of your health is gone.
Theres an easy way to do it, dunno if u did it like this or not... to kill the 2nd stage of the final boss all u do is shoot his head and then shoot his big orb when it lights up. Its so much easier this way than to shoot his head only. I made that mistake and was ripping my hair out. but if u shoot his orb after u shoot his head it takes alot of his health.

oh and to kill the first stage just use the double swords and use the up + y attack where he spins and jumps with the swords. if u can get close to him i killed him really quick using that attack.
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