Megido
Megido
Since 6562 Days
Alimo: you just have to block to doge it, but that's not the point.

When i quit playing i was being sodomized by 4 mechs and 4 rocket-launcher soldiers at once in some kind of russian-esque square. I got angry at the complete clusterfuck and turned it off and i'm not sure that i will ever start it again.
Posted by Megido
What sort of fuckhead retard would even think to put something so utterly STUPID, such a cheap shot, in a game!?
Oh yeah right...Itagaki. Explains it.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7103 Days
Megido...don't understand...if you cakk NG2 cheap and shit, you are a "n00b" :P

But I agree, the gameplay design of the enemies are fucking stupid...that was the only thing that made me return NG2 so quickly and hate it...and that I was tired of NG universe after all these years.
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Megido
Megido
Since 6562 Days
Sath: Yeah i'd love to see you anticipate the goddamn armadillo blowing up in your face ;)
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7103 Days
Megido, I hate the fact that the camera shakes so freaking much when they start "unleashing" their cheap moves, the fire balls or the rolling attack.
One cheap thing is that you never know when they are gonna grab you with their mouth, and once they do, the damage is alot and you cant do anything about it.

I have played it on Mentor so I know the fuckers are just crap.

But I am done with NG, period.
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SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
SimonM7
Since 7260 Days
Has anyone that played NGB played through Sigma? I'd like to know if there's enough new stuff in there to warrant a go at that instead of replaying the original.
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Sath
Since 7103 Days
NG Sigma was the first title i bought with my PS3.

Sigma has a few new stuff for sure.

Double katana (which was used before NG2 but is very limited)
3 Survival DLC pack
Rachel playable (boring!)
Sixaxis feature - shake the sixaxis for stronger ninpo usage
Prettier graphics.
Better and polished animations and new dodge moves, like backflip with one hand.

But everything else is pretty much the same.
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Megido
Megido
Since 6562 Days
I only played the demo of Sigma but i don't know...it felt kind of wonky. Maybe cause it was with the wrong controller :P

As they say: Once you go black you never go back :P
(god i can't believe i actually said that, haha)
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7103 Days
I thought Sigma played pretty much like Black but with extra content and looked prettier.
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SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
SimonM7
Since 7260 Days
I played the demo aswell, and I have no issue with the controller, prolly because I've played DMC a lot.

Sath, although those additions are nice I guess I was thinking more in terms of less superficial changes. In the demo the level layout is actually a little bit different to the original Ninja Gaiden, and if that's the case with the rest of the game aswell then that could spice things up for a second playthrough I reckon. I honestly don't *really* need a different game to wanna replay it because I really think NG is aces (gameplay wise, I'm not keen on the stuffy rubber ninja motif) regardless. But yeah, you know.. Sigma is like a pair of pebbles and a stick of wood in bargain bins these days.
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szaromir
szaromir
Since 6993 Days
Posted by alimokrane
If you ever decide to go and play it again use block when he's about to explode.
Yeah, the game felt cheap to me as well. I mean, I know I'm not good anyway, but it had too many moments when player struggles with camera, controls* and superfast enemies.

*controls are solid and intuitive except for running on water and fighting enemies, damn I hated that part.

edit: lol, that is last page stuff :D
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vspectra06
vspectra06
Since 7943 Days
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Megido
Megido
Since 6562 Days
Posted by vspectra06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI0Hf_SN_Xs
So...uh, they sauced up the vigoorian flail huh.
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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 7167 Days
Posted by vspectra06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI0Hf_SN_Xs
Wow that guy has got some skill!
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LEBATO
Since 7358 Days
I think that video puts to rest much of the complaining. Note, I'm not saying the game can't be unfair, but to say the game is unfair overall is wrong. There are only a few instances in the game that can be totally cheap, but otherwise it is a bunch of people crying for their lack of reaction.

I personally found NG2 considerably better in terms of combat, although it did lack in terms of exploration/adventure/platforming, something the first did better. So having said that I think both games are about equal, although NG did make a much better impression than did NG2--and I blame that to the lack of polish and impressive graphics that NG had at the time.
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Jin187
Jin187
Since 6981 Days
Posted by vspectra06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI0Hf_SN_Xs
Thats how I play the game :D
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 7222 Days
Posted by Megido
Yeah except in an FPS you AIM. Aiming is essentially the core gameplay. There's no way to aim your swing towards an arm, leg or head in gaiden, hence it's just stupid and random. But like Simon said, the randomness is also it's saving grace since being able to do it at will would break the game even worse than it already is.
I can't count the number of times I've aimed at heads in FPSes and have not gotten a kill when other times it's a guarantee. Also, it's not like NG2 is the only one in the series to have any randomness to it. It happens a lot in NGB that I'd flying swallow a group of guys and randomly decapitate one or two instead of all of them.
Also i can't understand how you agree that the game is cheap but the combat is better, for me that simply does not compute since 100% of the fun in Gaiden is the combat and that gets wrecked by the fact that the games is so cheap.
The things that I find cheap don't really affect the combat most of the time. My biggest beefs with the game in terms of it being cheap are the insta-grabs that some of the bosses unleash and some of the excessive incendiary shuriken rape that gets laid down. It sucks, but it doesn't mean that the combat the other 90% of the time isn't fun, fast, fluid, and visceral. Take the speed and the gore(yup...because the gore does make it more satisfying for me) of the combat and stick it into NGB, and that'd be ideal for me.
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Megido
Megido
Since 6562 Days
Posted by vspectra06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI0Hf_SN_Xs
Just look at that guy, as skilled as he is he gets half his lifebar taken off due to some goddamn fuck with a rocket launcher on the other side of the bridge. It's those things that bug me.
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 7222 Days
Yeah...the game is decidedly cheap at times, but the combat is still fantastic. And I mean, if Fable 2 can be on people's top 5 lists, then NG2 has every right to be as well.
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Megido
Megido
Since 6562 Days
Fable 2 shouldn't be either ;)
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7103 Days
Posted by Megido
Just look at that guy, as skilled as he is he gets half his lifebar taken off due to some goddamn fuck with a rocket launcher on the other side of the bridge. It's those things that bug me.
Funny, i play like that guy as well.

Like mentioned it before, its easy to seperate veterans in mastering the game in years to a few months players in about proximatly 10 minutes.

Anyway, yeah, I still say its cheap, but you also have to think that they made Ryu a slayer in this one.
The amount of speed this guy has now, and the OTs, the enemies dies faster.

But what makes the enemy cheap is that they got unlimited rocket launchers, bullets, Incendiary Shurikens, while yours are limited.
They are MUCH more agile to manuever your attacks and faster to do so, and they made it even more cheap to add a DASH for Ryu instead of rolling on the sides, which makes it easier for the enemy to hit you with its 3-4 rockets and IS.

And if you got a good eye, in NG2, Ryu doesnt have any invincible frames during his combos at all, while in NG he had them.
Meaning if you are in a UT doing combos or even in the air going for a Izuna Drop, the enemy could tag you with rockets or IS to interupt your moves, dumb crap!

Anyways, I hope Hyrioshi or whatever the guys name is, makes another Ninja Gaiden for PS3, like NGS 2 or something, would be great, he knows how to make GOOD design choices (fuck Rachel, annoying character).
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Megido
Megido
Since 6562 Days
Sath: yes well, you basically said it all. The short way of saying it is that Itagaki threw balance out the window in favor of flashier gameplay.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7103 Days
Posted by Megido
Sath: yes well, you basically said it all. The short way of saying it is that Itagaki threw balance out the window in favor of flashier gameplay.
Hehe yeah.

But you gotta admit though, thats one heck of a flashier gameplay.
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Megido
Megido
Since 6562 Days
Sath: yes it looks a lot cooler, but i still thinks it's a horrible trade off.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7103 Days
Posted by Megido
Sath: yes it looks a lot cooler, but i still thinks it's a horrible trade off.
I say Itagaki went stupid on the day he made that decision to be honest.
He could easily do both, but as arrogant as he is he probably went like "okay people, fast speed action, and increase the difficaulty by 10 from the first NG, that should teach them".

Accessable to wider audiance?
Gotta be kidding me. Right off the bat, the first cutscene is over they throw in around 5-6 Spider ninjas at you, without any tutorial and easier opponents.

Ridiculous.
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 7222 Days
Wait...I don't get it. Trade-off implies he put the "flashier" combat in at the expense of more balanced and fair gameplay.

I don't think the speed and awesome visual appeal of the combat has anything to do with enemies being cheap. Like Sath said, Itagaki easily could have done both without sacrificing anything.
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