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Dva is the most fun you have possibly have in this game.

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Tiz

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So I got the game yesterday on PS4. It is the best.

- You don't feel tired playing this game, or fatigued. I only went to bed last night because I had to.

- Today I am trading in Uncharted 4 to get the game on Xbox One, mostly because my Widow Maker and the Dual Shock 4 are incompatible and I have enough friends on both willing to play.

- Dva is my homegirl. My heart weeps for Dva's unwilling to take the high ground. :(

- In the right, sweaty palms Tracer is a goddess until her counter goddess, Symmetra steps onto the field.

- Pharah is... Does anyone know who is best for countering Pharah?

- Overwatch is the first game in years to dominate both the What's Up box and forum traffic, and rightly so, the game is a great representation of why I game.

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I played Dva for 7 hours straight tonight and never had a bad time. She's the answer to all problems.

Nothing more fun than flying around bullying the other team and deflecting all of their shots then launching an ultimate into the heart of their defense and watching them scramble. True joy.

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GriftGFX

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Posté par Tiz

- In the right, sweaty palms Tracer is a goddess until her counter goddess, Symmetra steps onto the field.

Just avoid her turrets. Symmetra aint a threat. Her combat range is atrocious. McCree is the counter goddess :D

I play Pharah and can't think of any hard counters. Anyone with decent range and DPS, like Soldier or McCree, should be able to deal with her. They're just not at an immediate advantage. Roadhog can be a pain in the butt if he manages to hook you during flight.

D.Va rules. I am nuts about playing her on control maps. It's super good with two-tank teams too.

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Posté par GriftGFX

Just avoid her turrets. Symmetra aint a threat. Her combat range is atrocious. McCree is the counter goddess :D

That is not a bad shout. Now that I think about it, he actually is the Tracer counter goddess. Haha.

I feel like Widow Maker can be annoying for Pharah if she has a good aim, but as soon as Pharah knows where that Widow is, it's spamspamspamspamspam. So like any good Sniper, shoot and move, shoot and move.

This game deserves all the multiplayer and design awards this year, I feel nothing will top it, not only this year but for years to come.

Also, took a while, but I am so happy that Dva's rocket boost actually hurts people and can be used as a finishing move. :D

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I was going to edit in Widow. She can definitely give Pharah trouble. More so than Hanzo because of the nature of hit-scan weapons. That's a little ironic since Hanzo is the better sniper to play if you can't aim. Widow is just better at picking off Pharah during a flight path, because they can be a little predictable and it's easier to hit moving targets with her weapon (on purpose).

A lot of people pick sniper that should not.

Pharah is one of my favorites.. even though they kinda messed her up versus her beta days. They made some changes to her rocket launcher and also removed the ability to refuel your jetpack while sliding down a sloped rooftop. I miss being able to surf rooftops for an entire round. It was a lot of fun and made you more of a threat from above.

Regardless.. her Quake-y, Tribes-y gameplay is some of the best in the game.

D.Va's boosters are very useful. They only do 20 dmg but you can (and should) push people off the map with it too. Environmental kills are so entertaining. That's one of the reasons I play Lucio too. But if there's a common theme among the heroes I'm attracted to in this game it's high mobility. D.Va is a highly mobile tank that is right at home "in the shit" which is where you're most likely to find me in any FPS.

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I was going to edit in Widow. She can definitely give Pharah trouble. More so than Hanzo because of the nature of hit-scan weapons. That's a little ironic since Hanzo is the better sniper to play if you [i]can't[/i] aim. Widow is just better at picking off Pharah during a flight path, because they can be a little predictable and it's easier to hit moving targets with her weapon (on purpose).

A lot of people pick sniper that should not.

Pharah is one of my favorites.. even though they kinda messed her up versus her beta days. They made some changes to her rocket launcher and also removed the ability to refuel your jetpack while sliding down a sloped rooftop. I miss being able to surf rooftops for an entire round. It was a lot of fun and made you more of a threat from above.

Regardless.. her Quake-y, Tribes-y gameplay is some of the best in the game.

D.Va's boosters are very useful. They only do 20 dmg but you can (and should) push people off the map with it too. Environmental kills are so entertaining. That's one of the reasons I play Lucio too. But if there's a common theme among the heroes I'm attracted to in this game it's high mobility. D.Va is a highly mobile tank that is right at home "in the shit" which is where you're most likely to find me in any FPS.

Megido

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Gonna have me an overwatch night tonight. Gonna try some characters i haven't even touched yet. Reinhardt and hanzo coming up. I'm also really interested in seeing what you can actually do with Torbjörn if you are smart with turret placement and your own positioning. How man nasty traps can you cook up with that shit? :)

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Also a quick thought here; Is Roadhog's heal to stronk? It feels too strong imo.

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Everything feels too strong at one point or another. I guess that's the nature of Overwatch. It's a little troublesome, really. People are a little too quick to excuse any potential issue because of it. On the other hand, there's a lot of people who seem to expect every hero to strike a perfect balance against every other hero. That's just not how this game works.

I had a Roadhog hooking my Pharah out of the air left and right last night. The range on that thing is a lot longer than I ever seem to expect. It comes at the expense of mobility and and blocking I guess. One thing I know for certain: he should not get credit for self healing.

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It just feels like 1) it heals a lot, 2) it has a pretty short CD and 3) it can't be interrupted. 1 on 1 you almost can't lose. And i'm not saying it seems way strong because i'm butthurt, as Roadhog is the character i play most :P

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Tinks

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the best against Roadhog is Mei when he does his heal shit. He'll try to drink and save himself, but my frost cannon catches him mid slurp every time :D

Also on the McCree note, he's basically my worst enemy with who I've been playing personally. That stun is rough

I need to get on more characters I haven't played much yet too. Need to give McCree a go myself, and play Tracer more, Roadhog, etc.

Megido- last night I had a Torbjorn game where I was able to place my turret in such a way that I was obscured while healing it at a choke point. So satisfying

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I just figure that the greatest benefit of the turret must be to be able to do damage from 2 locations at once. Just standing next to the turret seems like kind of wasted potential, if you know what i mean.

Mei seems great for shutting down the big guys in general, in my experience.

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Megido

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On the topic of accessibility, how come it's so goddamn hard for people to grasp the idea of capturing objectives? The capture point is clear, i go in to capture. Everyone else just camps outside until i die. Then we lose. What the actual fuck? Do they think that getting the best K/D/A ratio wins the game or some shit!?

This is a very salty game for me :P

It's like i'm playing with real mongoloids. This guy thinks setting up his bastion turret AFTER the payload checkpooint was a good idea. Braindamage confirmed.

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Posté par GriftGFX

Everything feels too strong at one point or another. I guess that's the nature of Overwatch. It's a little troublesome, really. People are a little too quick to excuse any potential issue because of it. On the other hand, there's a lot of people who seem to expect every hero to strike a perfect balance against every other hero. That's just not how this game works.

I had a Roadhog hooking my Pharah out of the air left and right last night. The range on that thing is a lot longer than I ever seem to expect. It comes at the expense of mobility and and blocking I guess. One thing I know for certain: he should not get credit for self healing.

Hey! I got 5 gold medals twice Friday night on Zenyatta and then Roadhog! I felt super cool.

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On the topic of accessibility, how come it's so goddamn hard for people to grasp the idea of capturing objectives? The capture point is clear, i go in to capture. Everyone else just camps outside until i die. Then we lose. What the actual fuck? Do they think that getting the best K/D/A ratio wins the game or some shit!?

This is a very salty game for me :P

It's like i'm playing with real mongoloids. This guy thinks setting up his bastion turret AFTER the payload checkpooint was a good idea. Braindamage confirmed.

It's good to push to a certain extent too. Most don't sit on objectives unless you're escorting a payload IMO

Also Tor's turret isn't always the strongest so sometimes you have to help keep a payload back by healing it and letting it do it's thing :D
But ulting from a distance while battling and keeping it alive is a blast too

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It's good to push to a certain extent too.

...Torbjörn? So you're the guy picking him on attack? :D

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Hey! I got 5 gold medals twice Friday night on Zenyatta and then Roadhog! I felt super cool.

Roadhog should never get the healing medal... that's all kinds of wrong.

It shouldn't be possible but it also shouldn't happen to begin with!

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On the topic of accessibility, how come it's so goddamn hard for people to grasp the idea of capturing objectives? The capture point is clear, i go in to capture. Everyone else just camps outside until i die. Then we lose. What the actual fuck? Do they think that getting the best K/D/A ratio wins the game or some shit!?

I find this amusing. Blizzard tries to hide everyone's kill:death performance in this game, and people still don't PTFO. And then people claim that scoreboards model poor player behavior. Nope. It's just human nature. Information actually enables us to make better decisions, and clever scoring can incentivize good player behavior.

The game actively misinforms the player. There's no way that aids decision making. I've seen plenty of players complain at the POTG screen because their awesome "team kill" or "kill streak" didn't make the highlight reel. They are completely unaware that Blizzard re-wrote the FPS dictionary, and that those terms don't actually mean what they imply.

I bet there are tons of people who are unaware that their combat performance is terrible.

I love Overwatch, but the flow of information sucks.

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[quote=Megido]On the topic of accessibility, how come it's so goddamn hard for people to grasp the idea of capturing objectives? The capture point is clear, i go in to capture. Everyone else just camps outside until i die. Then we lose. What the actual fuck? Do they think that getting the best K/D/A ratio wins the game or some shit!?[/quote]

I find this amusing. Blizzard tries to hide everyone's kill:death performance in this game, and people still don't PTFO. And then people claim that scoreboards model poor player behavior. Nope. It's just human nature. Information actually enables us to make better decisions, and clever scoring can incentivize good player behavior.

The game actively misinforms the player. There's no way that aids decision making. I've seen plenty of players complain at the POTG screen because their awesome "team kill" or "kill streak" didn't make the highlight reel. They are completely unaware that Blizzard re-wrote the FPS dictionary, and that those terms don't actually mean what they imply.

I bet there are tons of people who are unaware that their combat performance is terrible.

I love Overwatch, but the flow of information sucks.

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I agreed with you before I played the game but now I think it's for the better. Much friendlier environment than most shooters. If you're playing like shit, your teammates can't look at the scoreboard to find "who is to blame." I prefer this. Less negativity.

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Miss playing Overwath already.

Enjoying my trip though. Will see you next week on the game. You guys will have more cool skins than me :(

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Dva is the most fun you have possibly have in this game.

I love Dva, at the moment I play the best with her. My best game was with her to.

On my last play I was also trying to get good with Genjy.

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Pharah seems like she might be the best hero in the right hands. Truly devastating

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Pharah with a pocket Mercy = everything is dead.

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Megido

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Actually, Grift, you know when you kill someone or when it's just an assist. Not on the score board, but you actually get a little skull popping up on the screen if you secure the kill. Also, if your damage output is high, that has to mean something, right?

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I didn't say there was no information. I said the flow of information stinks.

I know about the silly little skull. Plenty of players don't. It's not like the game actually tells you about this either. Or tells players what "eliminations" mean. And it literally tells you that you are getting a killstreak for assisting. When the word "kill" no longer aligns with other games in the genre, they're just lying to the player.

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I agreed with you before I played the game but now I think it's for the better. Much friendlier environment than most shooters. If you're playing like shit, your teammates can't look at the scoreboard to find "who is to blame." I prefer this. Less negativity.

And yet.. it doesn't work. People are still toxic and they still blame their teammates. Plenty of people bitched at other players for not fulfilling their role throughout the beta. You'll hear it plenty in release. Especially if you're not playing with a full group. That kinda removes this experience from the game entirely. In reality, hiding the scoreboard just makes it more difficult to assess team (and enemy) performance. You deserve to know when your teammate is failing.

Anyway.. there are two issues here. You can hide individual performance from one another and still accurately inform the individual player of his own performance.

Does it ruin the gameplay? Nope. It's still shit design for a "competitive game".

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I didn't say there was [i]no[/i] information. I said the flow of information stinks.

I know about the silly little skull. Plenty of players don't. It's not like the game actually tells you about this either. Or tells players what "eliminations" mean. And it literally tells you that you are getting a killstreak for assisting. When the word "kill" no longer aligns with other games in the genre, they're just lying to the player.

[quote=scoobs0688]I agreed with you before I played the game but now I think it's for the better.  Much friendlier environment than most shooters.  If you're playing like shit, your teammates can't look at the scoreboard to find "who is to blame."  I prefer this.  Less negativity.[/quote]

And yet.. it doesn't work. People are still toxic and they still blame their teammates. Plenty of people bitched at other players for not fulfilling their role throughout the beta. You'll hear it plenty in release. Especially if you're not playing with a full group. That kinda removes this experience from the game entirely. In reality, hiding the scoreboard just makes it more difficult to assess team (and enemy) performance. You deserve to know when your teammate is failing.

Anyway.. there are two issues here. You can hide individual performance from one another and still accurately inform the individual player of his own performance.

Does it ruin the gameplay? Nope. It's still shit design for a "competitive game".

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I think its focused far less on the competitive and far more on teamwork and having fun

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The game becomes considerably less fun when you have some hotshot Genji on the team that does fuckall the entire match, but thinks he is hot shit though :)

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