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rayy
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
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Some people are really upset about the Torbjorn console-specific nerf in the NeoGAF thread.

I think people overreact to most nerfs.
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Posted by GriftGFX
Some people are really upset about the Torbjorn console-specific nerf in the NeoGAF thread.

I think people overreact to most nerfs.
What did they nerf on him?
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Megido
Megido
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Guess player level isn't a very good indicator of skill. But i mean, how much freaking time do you spend playing games if you are level 173 and still suck massive mountains of dick still? You'd have to have some sort of learning disabillity to play that much and still be completely useless.
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Posted by asdfg
What did they nerf on him?
They didn't do it yet, but Jeff Kaplan said they would reduce his turret damage by 30% on consoles.

I guess it's not set in stone yet either. Console patches are coming after PC patches. That's good!
Posted by Megido
Guess player level isn't a very good indicator of skill. But i mean, how much freaking time do you spend playing games if you are level 173 and still suck massive mountains of dick still? You'd have to have some sort of learning disabillity to play that much and still be completely useless.
A good number of people play Battlefield into the thousands of hours and are very (VERY) bad at it. I don't think it's unique.

Not everyone knows how to tryhard.
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Tinks
Tinks
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30% sounds like a lot!
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Tinks
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Posted by Megido
Guess player level isn't a very good indicator of skill. But i mean, how much freaking time do you spend playing games if you are level 173 and still suck massive mountains of dick still? You'd have to have some sort of learning disabillity to play that much and still be completely useless.
Yeah it's pretty hilarious how many scrub lords are high rank.
Part of me feels like Millennials are so used to COD solo ADD bullshit - it's like "what I have a team in games?"

I don't get how kids get so far and still suck so bad either. Someone like rayy should have yelled at them by now at least :D
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GriftGFX
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I feel like some people throw words like "scrublord" around pretty loosely. There are a lot of old scrubs too. And it doesn't matter how many hours they play. Scrubs don't improve. But I'll take COD players if they can actually aim and stuff. When I'm playing Lucio I encounter as many DPS issues as teamplay issues. All the coordination in the world is useless if you can't kill anything.

And.. I don't know.. something about glass houses.
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GriftGFX
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Surprise! Comp is out!

Edit: Goddammit Blizzard. Stop hiding stats:

"Score was a metric that Blizzard created to try to put a value to the actions you guys make in each game. The way it is measured is different for every role, and most likely, for every hero. It did not, and should not, serve as a stat that defined how skilled a player is. It was simply a data point that displayed how you were relative to others - and we know how much some of you guys liked it!"

Scoring is a way to measure individual performance. No shit. And players should have that information at their fingertips. Obscured information, hidden stats, and misleading language. I hate the "everyone wins" philosophy that got us here.

/rant

Comp is fun. Soon it will be the only global measure of performance.
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Tinks
Tinks
Since 7141 Days
I think it's kind of the conundrum in their game.
They think they've pinpointed some of the toxicity in multiplayer gaming, which they kinda have, however on such a heavy team structure it's not gone away
It's not hard to see a character choice as a glaring issue in your losses. Or you can still tell when a Widow just sucks ass ETC
I don't need a scoreboard to feel who's not being countered
You can still tell players they should quit playing games because they're terrible
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GriftGFX
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It's just not a real solution to toxicity. It doesn't work and it's detrimental in other ways.

You don't need a scoreboard to feel anything. It's about knowing. You should know how much your healer is healing. You should know how much DPS your team is doing. But I'm not sure that has anything to do with how they keep long-term statistics. I think we're probably combining two different issues that have a lot of overlap.

Here's a little anecdote: In one of my placement games our Junkrat made an obvious error at the end of the first round by failing to contest the point. It's not really clear if he would have made much of a difference, nor does it speak to his overall performance, but it was an obvious mistake. Another member of our team proceeded to berate this poor motherfucker for the remaining twenty minutes of the game. A best of five game of KOTH where we came back from the first two losses.

Information just allows people to make more informed decisions. Sure, it empowers assholes, but it turns out they're assholes anyway.

But whatever.. I mostly just tune that shit out.
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Tinks
Tinks
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well you can see how much damage your team has done in comparison can't you?
Generally if the team DPS is low your offensive characters aren't doing their job.
Or whether your healer medals for healing is another factor

Otherwise though I mostly agree.
I just think you can tell who is slacking from the way matches feel as you're losing
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GriftGFX
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Posted by Tinks
well you can see how much damage your team has done in comparison can't you?
How is that useful if you're not playing DPS? How is that useful if you're in first place? Even if you know team DPS is a problem, it's not easy to tell where the problem is coming from. And there's no reason that shouldn't be clear. Other than like.. toxicity stuff.. which we've determined doesn't work. Same with healing. Unless you're self healing, you have no idea how much team healing is going on.

I think it's something at the heart of Jeff Kaplan's design philosophy. I don't agree with it but I also don't see it changing.

I also hope it's not too influential. Battlefield 1 doesn't have a kill-feed. Come on.
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Posted by Tinks
I just think you can tell who is slacking from the way matches feel as you're losing
I'm sorry, but you can't. A lot of players can't tell how well they're doing.. let alone other players.

I mean.. people play Mei!
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rayy
rayy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qbfrQIxwLw

I have been trying to do that since KOTH got into the beta lol.
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It was impossible before!
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rayy
rayy
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Posted by GriftGFX
It was impossible before!
I know they just add the confetti, but couldnt you make a basket before? I mean trying to make a basket.
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Megido
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Skill rating 51 baby! That's all i need. Better than the average fucker!
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I had a Dva game where i got 37 eliminations, and 103% kill participation... how does one get 103% kill participation? Also, Dva is the best.
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Tinks
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D.Va out of her mech at the beginning of the round. It's like that Pharah that kills herself in spawn :D
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Blizzard is filing a lawsuit towards a distributor of hack subscriptions which run in OW
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/07/05/report-bliz...


It's interesting how readily available subscription based hacks are these days.
Maybe it's always been super visible, but I only noticed this stuff starting with R6
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GriftGFX
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Commercial hacks have always been a thing, but I'm glad people are finally going after some of these guys. Some of these providers even offer some form of guarantee to help soften the blow if your account gets banned. It's pretty shitty.

Epic is taking legal action against hack developers/distributors as well. When they can take legal action... they should.

I still firmly believe that hacking is an overstated problem though. They're mostly a convenient scapegoat :D
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The fact you can get a bot to play for you blows my mind
I guess that happens when you have grinding elements

Are you guys having issue with comp at all? I haven't seen this but looks like many people are getting booted randomly and reconnecting
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