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Phaethon360
Since 7424 Days
Dead Rising 3 and surprisingly Ryse have been getting good impressions. Although I think that the smart thing to do would be to wait for the inevitable DR3: Off the Record though. I'm pretty sure that would have all the framerate kinks sorted out.

And Titanfall being that guys number 2 game? Did that guy see Titanfall?

(Oh it's Moonwalker)
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docLEXfisti
docLEXfisti
Since 7697 Days
Wow! Rumours are on fire.

.) Apparently, Sony's GPU is an 7850 level GPU, that's why PS4 games seem to look worse every time they show them. Some people see this as explanation, why few PS4 games managed to have good fps (Drive Club, Killzone etc.)


.) XO seems to be more powerful than said and MS must have a BIG reason to shut up and wait.


.) Microsoft is talking about it's Xbox Silicone on the HotChips panel on Monday. A lot of guys expect some major news ... that sounds interesting and promising


.) Insider 3rd-party-knowledge (pls. take that with a grain of salt):

Watchdogs will 30 FPS on both but XO will look like ultra PC setting
Assassin' Creed 4 will be 60 FPS on XXO and 30 on PS4
Battlefield 4 will be 1080p on XO and 60FPS but only 720p on PS4
The Crew will be 60 FPS on XO and 30 on PS4
NFS will be 30 on both but XO again with PC ultra settings
COD will 1080p 60FPS and ultra on XO and sub 900p on PS4


.) even more crazy insider "info":

Having lunch with my friend this today was especially gratifying because he was talking more free about whats happening behind the scenes whithout much hesitation. I think MS is starting to loosen up the security on XO since we are near to hot chips reveal. here is some info I learned today.

the memory system in XO is much better then PS4 3/4 hUMA . its actually completely coherent in hardware. You can thank the move engines for this.

several developers are seriously foaming at the mouth to show what they can do on XO but have to wait until amd gives ms the green light.

more studios are becoming level 2 and 2 more studios are level 3.

The publisher that will openly show the difference between PS4 and XO will be EA.
BF4 not only runs at 1080p 60fps, it also has a much better particle system and lighting (ray tracing?) I was told the difference is not subtle.

Ubi did not show real XO build at gamescon because of pressure from Sony. My friends contact at ubi told him they was all set to go with real beta and Sony USA went ape shit. He said he was told by his contact, " If we would of showed our XO beta build with cloud dynamics, it would of been no contest"

NDA is still 09/21. after that its over as there will be zero restrictions on what can be discussed.

Last tidbit, Bethesda is working on something special and exclusive for XO, but I can't even say it yet because if I do, the source is busted. Bethesda may be level 3 now.

That's all for now. It's fun to watch sit and watch the studios inadvertently out Sony's brainwashing by just showing ps4 version of multiplatform games, just like I said they would.... just wait until October and you start seeing side by sides.
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 7424 Days
Is that a pastebin copy and paste or do you actually have an insider friend. Not to name any names but there've been a few people on this board who have tried to claim insider status. Some real, some not.
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docLEXfisti
docLEXfisti
Since 7697 Days
Nothing first hand. Only digging up info on some sites and forums. But I really know someone higher at Microsoft, but he doesn't talk to me about it. And he's good at evading ... hahahaha. But I respect that.

I was a SEGA insider myself once though, in the MD until DC times. Had Betas and Alphas all around, gosh I'm getting old :D
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the only tyrant I accept is my inner voice [and my two kids ;)]

ultimate gamers threat: "Watch it, or I'll spoil you all!"

_killzone_
_killzone_
Since 5769 Days
Posted by docLEXfisti
Wow! Rumours are on fire.

.) Apparently, Sony's GPU is an 7850 level GPU, that's why PS4 games seem to look worse every time they show them. Some people see this as explanation, why few PS4 games managed to have good fps (Drive Club, Killzone etc.)


.) XO seems to be more powerful than said and MS must have a BIG reason to shut up and wait.


.) Microsoft is talking about it's Xbox Silicone on the HotChips panel on Monday. A lot of guys expect some major news ... that sounds interesting and promising


.) Insider 3rd-party-knowledge (pls. take that with a grain of salt):

Watchdogs will 30 FPS on both but XO will look like ultra PC setting
Assassin' Creed 4 will be 60 FPS on XXO and 30 on PS4
Battlefield 4 will be 1080p on XO and 60FPS but only 720p on PS4
The Crew will be 60 FPS on XO and 30 on PS4
NFS will be 30 on both but XO again with PC ultra settings
COD will 1080p 60FPS and ultra on XO and sub 900p on PS4


.) even more crazy insider "info":

Having lunch with my friend this today was especially gratifying because he was talking more free about whats happening behind the scenes whithout much hesitation. I think MS is starting to loosen up the security on XO since we are near to hot chips reveal. here is some info I learned today.

the memory system in XO is much better then PS4 3/4 hUMA . its actually completely coherent in hardware. You can thank the move engines for this.

several developers are seriously foaming at the mouth to show what they can do on XO but have to wait until amd gives ms the green light.

more studios are becoming level 2 and 2 more studios are level 3.

The publisher that will openly show the difference between PS4 and XO will be EA.
BF4 not only runs at 1080p 60fps, it also has a much better particle system and lighting (ray tracing?) I was told the difference is not subtle.

Ubi did not show real XO build at gamescon because of pressure from Sony. My friends contact at ubi told him they was all set to go with real beta and Sony USA went ape shit. He said he was told by his contact, " If we would of showed our XO beta build with cloud dynamics, it would of been no contest"

NDA is still 09/21. after that its over as there will be zero restrictions on what can be discussed.

Last tidbit, Bethesda is working on something special and exclusive for XO, but I can't even say it yet because if I do, the source is busted. Bethesda may be level 3 now.

That's all for now. It's fun to watch sit and watch the studios inadvertently out Sony's brainwashing by just showing ps4 version of multiplatform games, just like I said they would.... just wait until October and you start seeing side by sides.
It has been a while for another XO hardware rumor. This one though sound just as ridiculous as it can be.

It looks like a generation difference. More like PS3 vs XO or 360 vs XO instead.
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KORNdog
KORNdog
Since 6983 Days
Lol @ that "insider" info.
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BLackHawkodst
BLackHawkodst
Since 6465 Days
Rumours got to love them, but the below is known already I thought?
Posted by docLEXfisti
Battlefield 4 will be 1080p on XO and 60FPS but only 720p on PS4

COD will 1080p 60FPS and ultra on XO and sub 900p on PS4
Anyway great to hear the hands on being very positive, like the sound of the below quotes, cant wait to see those levels.
turn around and just look at this thing, just look at it. It had Marius standing in a field of grass, every grass piece moved in the wind and the colours were vibrant as hell and beautiful. The environment looked like a next-gen Oblivion, with the awesome colours and grass fields.

The guy said there will be plenty of climbing and exploration. And to show that off they showed us a new location, which basically was another test map but graphically just blew me the hell away. It looked a bit like a forest location, dead bodies impaled into objects, beautiful colours, lighting, no grainy shadows, awesome water effects and just insanely pretty.

For me and my collegeau without a doubt the best looking next-gen game so far. I honestly did not expect it at all. Best of all...no PC's in sight....only thing in sight was the X1 console with the power light on, and the X1 controller. I asked the dev if these amazing looking test levels will be in the game itself too, similar levels and they responded with....''even better''. They also said that they are currently not yet finished with the graphics cause..get this....they want it to look even prettier!

Ryse is my number one of GC, simple as that. If they truly have exploration, climbing etc in this one with the awesome combat and not just hack and slash...this will be a winner.
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KORNdog
KORNdog
Since 6983 Days
Posted by BLackHawkodst
Rumours got to love them, but the below is known already I thought?
The framerate, yes, but dice/EA have never mentioned resolution.

As for COD, first i've heard, but given how terrible it looks, i can't imagine it won't be 1080 on both consoles. But then again, respawn doesn't seem confident they'll hit 1080p with titanfall and that's another lacklustre looking game visually, so who knows.
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gym4life
Since 6104 Days
whoa sounds awesome.
Posted by BLackHawkodst
Anyway great to hear the hands on being very positive, like the sound of the below quotes, cant wait to see those levels.
turn around and just look at this thing, just look at it. It had Marius standing in a field of grass, every grass piece moved in the wind and the colours were vibrant as hell and beautiful. The environment looked like a next-gen Oblivion, with the awesome colours and grass fields.

The guy said there will be plenty of climbing and exploration. And to show that off they showed us a new location, which basically was another test map but graphically just blew me the hell away. It looked a bit like a forest location, dead bodies impaled into objects, beautiful colours, lighting, no grainy shadows, awesome water effects and just insanely pretty.

For me and my collegeau without a doubt the best looking next-gen game so far. I honestly did not expect it at all. Best of all...no PC's in sight....only thing in sight was the X1 console with the power light on, and the X1 controller. I asked the dev if these amazing looking test levels will be in the game itself too, similar levels and they responded with....''even better''. They also said that they are currently not yet finished with the graphics cause..get this....they want it to look even prettier!

Ryse is my number one of GC, simple as that. If they truly have exploration, climbing etc in this one with the awesome combat and not just hack and slash...this will be a winner.
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sanex
Since 5766 Days
Posted by BLackHawkodst
Rumours got to love them, but the below is known already I thought?
Nothing is confirmed except forza 5 @ 1080p 60fps, that i know off.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7579 Days
Posted by docLEXfisti
Nothing first hand. Only digging up info on some sites and forums.
Yeah.. that's probably why it mostly sounds like bullshit. It's like when DICE said that BF4 had some DX11.1 features, and then tons of forum idiots extrapolated the idea that it was "better optimized on Xbox" from that statement.

And now people will swear that this is what DICE actually said. It is not.
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Acert93 - Mr. Bad Cop
Acert93
Since 7549 Days
I see a lot of desperate Xbox fans. Based on the specs MS and Sony themselves released and verified with block diagrams the Sony GPU has about 50% more flops (shaders), 100% more fill rate (ROPs or RBEs whatever you want to call them these days), and a moderate bump in texturing as well (iirc it was 40% or so but I don't remember). About the only thing similar is the triangle setup rate and that is only because of how AMD GPUs setup at clock rate (but note your 1100MHz low end GPU isn't besting the high end 850MHz GPU so this is trivial). And imo the ESRAM is too small for the space it takes up on the chip, lacks flexibility (where is the full CPU and GPU direct read/write cache? Now THAT would have been interesting and a trend breaker), and isn't even really fast. 170GB/s to a larger DDR pool is better than a split 8GB DDR @ 60GB/s + 32MB @ 100GB/s cache.

Looking at the hardware it is obvious WHY MS went with their design: DDR3 is dirt cheap. Figure it costs $10 less per console than GDDR5; at 50M units that is $500M. $500M less loses and/or stick into the corporate coffers. Or invest in Kinect. Cache's scale quicker than logic (almost perfect scaling). But the joke is really on early adopters. Sounds like Xbone's chips are bigger, so they cost more up front. Hence why the Xbox is $100 more (that and Kinect). So you pay more to get less as an early adopter only so you can pad MS down stream in year 3 when they get process shrinks in so they can cut costs. Of course we saw with this generation cutting costs means monetizing everything, cutting out non-monetized features (e.g. system link... I lol at the games that support it for stupid stuff like triple monitors but they strip it out of Multiplayer JUST for the purpose to force XBL Gold), with no intent to drive the console MSRP into the low end.

MS's strategy has been pretty obvious for years. The core game developers they had were spun off or closed down. They are astutely focused on services and broad appeal software. They feel, internally, they have their major franchise hooks (Halo, Forza) to show off the hardware and, like their Windows approach, want to "encourage" developers to fill the gaps. Alas Sony isn't Apple. Sony doesn't have a $1000 console with limited features and walled garden compared to MS. They have less behind paywalls, more open infrastructure, and are keenly focused on the prime purpose of the platform. MS will probably have a more tightly focused platform in terms of coherence but Sony's is clearly more broad/accepting and focused on gaming first.

The hardware and everything they have talked about, as well as their business decisions, play this tune.

If I was a MS fan I would be less worried about BS hardware rumors and more worried that

- The platform message is psycho
- The unfocused flip/flopping that underminds their platform vision (And also make you think "So, when will they take away the carrot they flipped flopped on?)
- The lack of focus on core consumers
- Coming in too expensive with nothing to justify $100 more to general markets
- The constant stream of BAD press. And I don't care if they "explain" later from watching the mainstream news MS's messaging has been greatly panned
- The freaking just canned the Xbox division head, replaced him with a non-gamer
- The freaking CEO was "gently" told to retire (long time coming from an investor position; MS makes money but they also have failed in Search, Mobile, Tablets on Balmer's watch, Xbox is clearly going to have troubles this gen, Windows Vista/8 have tarnished MS's image and have affected how corporates look at MS, and online cloud enabled office software looks to take a chunk out of Office.)

MS has problems. Xbox is just one of the symptoms. The sad thing is a new CEO and division head could turn things around. But for this gen it is too late.

So keep believing MS, out of the generosity of their hearts, has withheld super computer specs and the Xbox One is some PS4 killer.
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Phaethon360
Since 7424 Days
Posted by Acert93
Acert's Epic Unadulterated Technical and Situational Assessment of the Entire Microsoft Entity
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scoobs0688
scoobs0688
Since 6213 Days
Posted by docLEXfisti
Wow! Rumours are on fire.

.) Apparently, Sony's GPU is an 7850 level GPU, that's why PS4 games seem to look worse every time they show them. Some people see this as explanation, why few PS4 games managed to have good fps (Drive Club, Killzone etc.)


.) XO seems to be more powerful than said and MS must have a BIG reason to shut up and wait.


.) Microsoft is talking about it's Xbox Silicone on the HotChips panel on Monday. A lot of guys expect some major news ... that sounds interesting and promising


.) Insider 3rd-party-knowledge (pls. take that with a grain of salt):

Watchdogs will 30 FPS on both but XO will look like ultra PC setting
Assassin' Creed 4 will be 60 FPS on XXO and 30 on PS4
Battlefield 4 will be 1080p on XO and 60FPS but only 720p on PS4
The Crew will be 60 FPS on XO and 30 on PS4
NFS will be 30 on both but XO again with PC ultra settings
COD will 1080p 60FPS and ultra on XO and sub 900p on PS4


.) even more crazy insider "info":

Having lunch with my friend this today was especially gratifying because he was talking more free about whats happening behind the scenes whithout much hesitation. I think MS is starting to loosen up the security on XO since we are near to hot chips reveal. here is some info I learned today.

the memory system in XO is much better then PS4 3/4 hUMA . its actually completely coherent in hardware. You can thank the move engines for this.

several developers are seriously foaming at the mouth to show what they can do on XO but have to wait until amd gives ms the green light.

more studios are becoming level 2 and 2 more studios are level 3.

The publisher that will openly show the difference between PS4 and XO will be EA.
BF4 not only runs at 1080p 60fps, it also has a much better particle system and lighting (ray tracing?) I was told the difference is not subtle.

Ubi did not show real XO build at gamescon because of pressure from Sony. My friends contact at ubi told him they was all set to go with real beta and Sony USA went ape shit. He said he was told by his contact, " If we would of showed our XO beta build with cloud dynamics, it would of been no contest"

NDA is still 09/21. after that its over as there will be zero restrictions on what can be discussed.

Last tidbit, Bethesda is working on something special and exclusive for XO, but I can't even say it yet because if I do, the source is busted. Bethesda may be level 3 now.

That's all for now. It's fun to watch sit and watch the studios inadvertently out Sony's brainwashing by just showing ps4 version of multiplatform games, just like I said they would.... just wait until October and you start seeing side by sides.
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen anyone posted on these forums

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Acert93
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Sheeesh.

They didn't just grasp at straws.

What they did was EAT the straw.

What you saw on the forum is the cow patty that came after.
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Tinks
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gym4life
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Posted by sanex
Nothing is confirmed except forza 5 @ 1080p 60fps, that i know off.
I thought there were a few others?
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rayy
rayy
Since 7553 Days
Posted by Tinks
Lmao.
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sanex
Since 5766 Days
Posted by gym4life
I thought there were a few others?
might be?

cool project spark vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K_hnLyEzno&featur...
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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 7471 Days
Posted by docLEXfisti
Wow! Rumours are on fire.

.) Apparently, Sony's GPU is an 7850 level GPU, that's why PS4 games seem to look worse every time they show them. Some people see this as explanation, why few PS4 games managed to have good fps (Drive Club, Killzone etc.)


.) XO seems to be more powerful than said and MS must have a BIG reason to shut up and wait.


.) Microsoft is talking about it's Xbox Silicone on the HotChips panel on Monday. A lot of guys expect some major news ... that sounds interesting and promising


.) Insider 3rd-party-knowledge (pls. take that with a grain of salt):

Watchdogs will 30 FPS on both but XO will look like ultra PC setting
Assassin' Creed 4 will be 60 FPS on XXO and 30 on PS4
Battlefield 4 will be 1080p on XO and 60FPS but only 720p on PS4
The Crew will be 60 FPS on XO and 30 on PS4
NFS will be 30 on both but XO again with PC ultra settings
COD will 1080p 60FPS and ultra on XO and sub 900p on PS4


.) even more crazy insider "info":

Having lunch with my friend this today was especially gratifying because he was talking more free about whats happening behind the scenes whithout much hesitation. I think MS is starting to loosen up the security on XO since we are near to hot chips reveal. here is some info I learned today.

the memory system in XO is much better then PS4 3/4 hUMA . its actually completely coherent in hardware. You can thank the move engines for this.

several developers are seriously foaming at the mouth to show what they can do on XO but have to wait until amd gives ms the green light.

more studios are becoming level 2 and 2 more studios are level 3.

The publisher that will openly show the difference between PS4 and XO will be EA.
BF4 not only runs at 1080p 60fps, it also has a much better particle system and lighting (ray tracing?) I was told the difference is not subtle.

Ubi did not show real XO build at gamescon because of pressure from Sony. My friends contact at ubi told him they was all set to go with real beta and Sony USA went ape shit. He said he was told by his contact, " If we would of showed our XO beta build with cloud dynamics, it would of been no contest"

NDA is still 09/21. after that its over as there will be zero restrictions on what can be discussed.

Last tidbit, Bethesda is working on something special and exclusive for XO, but I can't even say it yet because if I do, the source is busted. Bethesda may be level 3 now.

That's all for now. It's fun to watch sit and watch the studios inadvertently out Sony's brainwashing by just showing ps4 version of multiplatform games, just like I said they would.... just wait until October and you start seeing side by sides.


Not directed at you docLEX, just the source of the rumor. :)
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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
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Wait..... that's not a wall of text about Microsoft's secret sauce.....

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REAL OPTIMUS? Oh right, you're retiring in 12 months ;)
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Omg optimus comes out of hiding!
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rayy
rayy
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Posted by Optimusv2
Not directed at you docLEX, just the source of the rumor. :)
I...I..I can just not believe how short that post was.

This must not be Optimus!! :P
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His life force is tied to the Xbox. He is dyeing. Read into that what you wish.
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Posted by Acert93
His life force is tied to the Xbox. He is dyeing. Read into that what you wish.
What colors is dyeing??? Sorry, grammer whore <<< Seriously though back on topic.... Is it possible Titanfall is TOO good?
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