At least 40% of all Xbox usage is offline. 40% Optimus.

Miltary servicemen overseas, singleplayer only gamers, poorly laid out house owners, gamers that can't afford internet at home, shitty wifi setup home owners, -- I could go fucking on.

Your only arguments so far have been "I don't care, doesn't affect me" and there hasn't been one argument as to a Pro vs all the Cons.

And while this is technically a rumor, it is not unsubstantiated. The source count for this rumor was at 11 separate verified sources last time I checked. And not a single person has said "No, this is not what MS is doing," not even as a hoax. The Creative Director may have just been fired for leaking the info in the shittiest way possible.

Alienating 40% of your userbase without a single good reason. Why stop at anything when people will say "Hey, doesn't affect me, I got games!"

Durango will implement different power states so that it can always be powered on, but will draw minimal electricity when not in use. The console will be ready instantly when users want to play, and will always maintain a network connection so that console software and games are always current. With this Always On, Always Connected design, users will quickly and easily enjoy their connected entertainment experiences with no waiting for the console to restart on install updates.

The Wii and PS4 do this too. However the devs specifically addressed DRM concerns when used as sources. And Adam Orth knew exactly what he was defending when he went on his tirade. That doesn't change anything.

If anything whoever wrote that document doesn't understand what Always On has been referred to in recent years, but these are two separate features.

"Always On" and "Always Online" are definitely two different issues. What's outlined in the above document is really frightening. The Kotaku article that Orth appeared to be responding to (the timing is what set this all off) had very specific details pertaining to online activation and periodic data checks. The sooner they announce an actual product, the sooner we'll know if people are going "ape-shit" over nothing. Speculation is not being kind to Microsoft.

If everyone is finished yelling at each other.

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/3205062443874...

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/3205085929292...


Kind of lines up with the "Always On" low powered states that were in the early Yukon document



Even more than that is the Durango K overviewWhat's being described here doesn't sound sound any different from our Cable/Sat DVR boxes and the services that they offer. These boxes can also update themselves when not being powered on. As it stands, most users (even with poor connections) are able to maintain a connection long enough to receive updates for Xbox 360. So this doesn't sound like Microsoft is trying to enforce an always connected console for game access. If it were, it would be a losing strategy. And Microsoft doesn't want to lose.

I'm almost thoroughly convinced that everyone is going ape-shit over NOTHING.

Very interesting, Tom just came back from a visit to Microsoft right? think I read that in one of his earlier tweets.

More to the point, I think that an always-on Xbox is directly in keeping with Microsoft’s strategy for all next-generation platforms, including Windows Phone (all versions) and Windows 8/RT, which are designed to work as if you are simply connected all the time. Yes, they do work offline, of course. But the apps platform on these systems—which will be replicated on the Windows 8-based next Xbox—assumes a connection. Microsoft’s new platforms are integrated conduits for online services.

"The next Xbox is code-named Durango. And we have talked for a while about this notion that there might be another version of the Xbox that was just aimed at entertainment—a non-gaming device. That device was code-named 'Yumo' and they're not making it. They may make one in the future, but it's not happening this year.

"So the new Xbox that comes out this year will just be the Xbox. And I mentioned before they're also going to sell a new Xbox 360 code-named 'Stingray' that will be $99. And you might look at that as two things: backwards compatibility, obviously, suggesting—I don't actually know this for a fact, but based on the fact that they're making one—I don't think that the new Xbox will play 360 games. But that I don't actually know, that I'm guessing. But, the other one is that, $99, that's a real coo price. And so we know that the Xbox 360 does Netflix, Hulu Plus, yada yada yada, and you can make the argument that's kind of a low cost entertainment device, too.

"Durango is going to be expensive [laughs], you know $500, $300 for the subscription, that kind of thing, but you know, Blu-ray, blah blah blah, but the thing that interest me, going back and looking at some of the stuff I got a long time ago, it actually says 'must be internet-connected to use' in the notes. And that's all I have, but it does say that.

[Is that a bad thing?]

"I don't know because I don't know what it means. You know, when you look at some of the stories that were coming out this week about, you know, I saw a headline that said something like 'Next Xbox could be okay without an internet connection for as long as 3 minutes' or something like that. I don't even know what that means, so for me, Xbox 360 is almost entirely an online experience. Most of the games I play are multiplayer, where you're playing against other people online. Or you're using it as an entertainment device when you're connected to a service like Netflix or Xbox video, so that is an internet-connected device. In this phrase, it says 'must be internet-connected to use', you know, that suggests that you can't even boot into the UI and play—I don't know, I don't know, I don't have one.

"Originally, they were going to announce this thing in April—April 24—now they're going to announce it May 21. We know there are events occuring this year where we're going to learn more about Durango.

[And it's a fourth quarter release, right?]

"Early November, yeah. E3 is going to occur. BUILD is going to occur in San Francisco in June when they're going to talk about the developer story because it's a Windows 8 device. It's going to have the same, or basically the same, developer tools and developer APIs and all that kind of stuff. So I think there's a lot information to come, but I look at all this stuff that I've seen about Durango and I think, 'it's all positive.' I don't really see any bad news here at all. Like to me, everything I've seen about this is really positive. It's amazing to me that, based on like no information at all, everyone is like freaking out about everything. Aside from this online thing, by the way, the number one question I've gotten from people is, 'What does it look like?' Who gives a shit what it looks like?

"I've actually heard from, by the way not one or two people, several people who've said, 'based on what I've seen, Sony is going to blow them away.' Based on what you've seen? You've seen nothing. What are you talking about? No, but you've seen literally nothing from Microsoft.

[I don't think that's even a possibility considering how many people use Xbox LIVE... You're not going to have this mass Xbox audience jumping to Sony.]

"The problem Microsoft has has nothing to do with Sony or Nintendo anymore, it's Roku and AppleTV. The market for hardcore video games, the market of people will always buy the next Gears of War game, the next Halo game, the next Call of Duty game, it's fairly finite. It's a decent market, yada yada yada, it's not the market for tablets, it's not the market for smartphones.

Op, i think you have found your soulmate! Someone that writes so much about so little and makes no sense whatsoever.