The XbOne Yard

Since 6903 Days

I don't blame people for playing and wanting new games, not at all. It's fine and good, i just wish that the games that deserved praise got it. I can understand that a lot of people don't "get" a game like VF, as it looks ugly, has mediocre animations at best and really just lacks in presentation, but the GAME is brilliant. If you get past the visuals it's one of the most engaging and interesting fighters out there. Extremely technical, with lots of characters built in to each characters move set and a great system around it. Even when VF5 FT was fairly new it was hard to find matches online. I just think that if people got over the threshold, so to speak, the good fighters would be more recognized. But i guess the amount of people willing to commit the required time and effort in to a single game is very limited.

I wish Capcom would step back and look at what made Third Strike so awesome and make a new game like that. Same with Tekken, i was quite disappointed with TTT2 and i really hope they take a step back and reevaluate the series for Tekken 7. It's been rather static since T5 and some change and rebalancing would be very much welcome (Take the combo damage down for fucks sake!). So i think there is defo room for new fighters, the makers of said games just need to find a balance between appealing to the casuals and providing interesting games. And as a side note to that, i very much doubt a new KI will bring that :P

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I don't blame people for playing and wanting new games, not at all. It's fine and good, i just wish that the games that deserved praise got it. I can understand that a lot of people don't "get" a game like VF, as it looks ugly, has mediocre animations at best and really just lacks in presentation, but the GAME is brilliant. If you get past the visuals it's one of the most engaging and interesting fighters out there. Extremely technical, with lots of characters built in to each characters move set and a great system around it. Even when VF5 FT was fairly new it was hard to find matches online. I just think that if people got over the threshold, so to speak, the good fighters would be more recognized. But i guess the amount of people willing to commit the required time and effort in to a single game is very limited.

I wish Capcom would step back and look at what made Third Strike so awesome and make a new game like that. Same with Tekken, i was quite disappointed with TTT2 and i really hope they take a step back and reevaluate the series for Tekken 7. It's been rather static since T5 and some change and rebalancing would be very much welcome (Take the combo damage down for fucks sake!). So i think there is defo room for new fighters, the makers of said games just need to find a balance between appealing to the casuals and providing interesting games. And as a side note to that, i very much doubt a new KI will bring that :P

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GriftGFX

Since 7578 Days

Preaching to the choir, I think. Although in regards to Namco, I quite liked SC5. And I've never been a big Tekken fan, so I lack the proper context there.

I don't think there's anything particularly thrilling on the horizon either. Well, except Dive Kick.

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GrimThorne

Since 7450 Days

Every genre had it's day in the sun. Flight Sims, Space Fighters, Side Scrollers, RPGs, TBS, RTS, Fighters, Dungeon Crawlers, Adventure, Puzzles, City Builders, God Games etc. In the end it was ceaseless repetition that killed them and gamer's interest.

The writing has been on the wall for FPS for some time, gamers' love affair with the genre has been long and protracted enough as it is. The graphics have gotten prettier over the years, but not much about the gameplay mechanics has changed. What are these publishers going to do when it flatlines? It would be nice if some of these studios would re-visit some of these old genres with new fresh approaches.

Gaming has such a rich legacy, yet so much of it goes unused.

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GriftGFX

Since 7578 Days

The only new viable eSports genre are the DoTA clones. To say that the others have come and gone is sorta ridiculous. Fighters, RTS, FPS will all remain viable genres for a long time.

If anything, it's their time in the sun that's made them lose their way for some folks. FPS is really hot right now. I think it will continue to be for some time. And the masses standards are just lower.

This will plague any and every popular genre. It seems like the bigger something gets the worse it gets sometimes.

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scoobs0688

Since 6212 Days

Ah haaa! Looks like the xb1 OS stuff was faked on stage... Optimus eat crow :P
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57650...

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alimokrane

Since 7508 Days

Posted by scoobs0688

Ah haaa! Looks like the xb1 OS stuff was faked on stage... Optimus eat crow :P
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57650...

Op has wisely retreated recently and I respect him for that. He'll be back for E3. To be honest, I dont think he was being totally unreasonable, most of the time he just wanted everyone to be on the fence and wait for the facts and these will emerge come E3. I dont have any hope of MS redeeming itself though. They have ruined Xbox for me so far.

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scoobs0688

Since 6212 Days

Just wait til they announce their game lineup, i have a feeling the internet will be quick to forgive. Very quick.

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scoobs0688

Since 6212 Days

Reports of manufacturing problems with the eSRAM in the xb1, and having to lower clock speeds... no proof if its true or not but it doesnt sound good

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57686...

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alimokrane

Since 7508 Days

Posted by scoobs0688

Just wait til they announce their game lineup, i have a feeling the internet will be quick to forgive. Very quick.

Iit is ALL about the games so if they deliver the goods, I think they deserve a second chance. 2 conditions for me, no kinect on my games and fix the 2nd hand games issue. Regardless though, I definately am not buying a next gen console in the first year - that decision is made - until I know which of Sony/MS is going to give me the games I want (Action Adventure / Hack & Slash / JRPGs / WRPGs)

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Tomarru

Since 6650 Days

Jesus, if they lower the clocks this late games may be fucked, i mean they have been designing around very specific performance parameters. The performance goes up then great, but if this happens and performance drops 1/4 then you're looking at quick cuts to the games visuals, either choppy framerates or lowered resolution.

Nasty.

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BLackHawkodst

Since 6464 Days

All rumors no facts as of yet.

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sanex

Since 5765 Days

Posted by alimokrane

Iit is ALL about the games so if they deliver the goods, I think they deserve a second chance. 2 conditions for me, no kinect on my games and fix the 2nd hand games issue. Regardless though, I definately am not buying a next gen console in the first year - that decision is made - until I know which of Sony/MS is going to give me the games I want (Action Adventure / Hack & Slash / JRPGs / WRPGs)

Games will be my decider also, ££ are a bit tight as of late so i need to see a game that i cant wait to play.

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Jollipop

Since 7461 Days

Posted by Ronsauce

Nah, the left stick gets more use than the d-pad, so it's in the ideal position. Besides, it's still symmetrical in the sense that there are two control options up and two control options down. Acting like someone must have deformed hands because they prefer the 360 controller is silly.

Not deformed hands, maybe a deformed brain though :P

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Ronsauce

Since 7563 Days

Posted by Jollipop

Not deformed hands, maybe a deformed brain though :P

Nah, that's what causes inverting the Y-axis. :P

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GrimThorne

Since 7450 Days

Posted by Tomarru

Jesus, if they lower the clocks this late games may be fucked, i mean they have been designing around very specific performance parameters. The performance goes up then great, but if this happens and performance drops 1/4 then you're looking at quick cuts to the games visuals, either choppy framerates or lowered resolution.

Nasty.

It's from Gaf so proceed with caution.

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docLEXfisti

Since 7696 Days

Posted by scoobs0688

Reports of manufacturing problems with the eSRAM in the xb1, and having to lower clock speeds... no proof if its true or not but it doesnt sound good

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57686...

If that's really the case then Microsoft needs to postpone the 2013 release, give it another 6 months dev time and release the overhauled system in 2014. If the already weaker XB1 gets even more weaker, then I think no harcore fan will buy it.

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scoobs0688

Since 6212 Days

I dont think they can afford to let Sony go uncontested this holiday season. Its been 8 years, people are going to be ready to buy a new system for christmas

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GriftGFX

Since 7578 Days

Posted by docLEXfisti

If that's really the case then Microsoft needs to postpone the 2013 release, give it another 6 months dev time and release the overhauled system in 2014. If the already weaker XB1 gets even more weaker, then I think no harcore fan will buy it.

Didn't you hear? The hardcore folks buy everything. They're not a concern!

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scoobs0688

Since 6212 Days

msft now reportedly cancelling its post-E3 media roundtable... just wtf

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BLackHawkodst

Since 6464 Days

Phew i thought it was the main E3 conf for a sec..

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docLEXfisti

Since 7696 Days

Posted by GriftGFX

Didn't you hear? The hardcore folks buy everything. They're not a concern!

good sarcasm, you're growing on me Grift ;)

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GrimThorne

Since 7450 Days

I don't get it Microsoft. There's nothing in your console that could possibly be causing these kinds of problems. You have cheap off the shelf gear, why is it overheating?! Gezz what a nightmare :P

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sanex

Since 5765 Days

Both 360/ps3 had these types of problems also though at launch as i remember?, it's the nature of the beast with new launches always mad rushing around and yield issues / manufacturing problems.

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KORNdog

Since 6982 Days

Happened before so it's ok for history to repeat itself? I don't want either console to have anything even remotely close to the failure rates of the RROD 360. That would just suck for everyone.

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GrimThorne

Since 7450 Days

Posted by scoobs0688

I dont think they can afford to let Sony go uncontested this holiday season. Its been 8 years, people are going to be ready to buy a new system for christmas

Yeah but they can't launch with these kinds of problems scoobs. They just can't. They got away with it last time because there WASN'T another console on the market, they do it again they will kill themselves.

Wow everyone with games at this year's E3, swallow the holiday season and take the console back to engineering and fix those problems. Delay and launch by E3 of 2014. Gamers will understand, they waited one year for the PS3, they will wait for 6 more months for the Xbox One.

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Both 360/ps3 had these types of problems also though at launch as i remember?, it's the nature of the beast with new launches always mad rushing around and yield issues / manufacturing problems.

The big difference this time is that they don't have the 2013 Holiday launch window to themselves like they did 2005. RRODv2 will not be forgiven.

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[quote=scoobs0688]I dont think they can afford to let Sony go uncontested this holiday season.  Its been 8 years, people are going to be ready to buy a new system for christmas[/quote]

Yeah but they can't launch with these kinds of problems scoobs.  They just can't.  They got away with it last time because there WASN'T another console on the market, they do it again they will kill themselves.

Wow everyone with games at this year's E3, swallow the holiday season and take the console back to engineering and fix those problems.   Delay and launch by E3 of 2014.   Gamers will understand, they waited one year for the PS3, they will wait for 6 more months for the Xbox One.

[quote=sanex]Both 360/ps3 had these types of problems also though at launch as i remember?, it's the nature of the beast with new launches always mad rushing around and yield issues / manufacturing problems.[/quote]

The big difference this time is that they don't have the 2013 Holiday launch window to themselves like they did 2005.  RRODv2 will not be forgiven.

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