Microsoft just released some new images of Forza Motorsport 3 showing the Le Mans track. A press event with the game is happening there right now, but we missed it. Ha well, enjoy these images.
Commented on 2009-06-12 20:57:31 In reply to KORNdog
Posted by KORNdog
strange theory seeing as the second forza looked like ass.
Hehe, a bit harsh buy true.
The game looks great in photomode shots, but unfortunately that means jack shit. I've seen some photomode shots of Forza 2 that looked photorealistic (seriously). GT5 does the same in screenshots and trailers, pick some perfect angles and lighting conditions, boost AA, add blur and depth of field, adjust colour saturation, adjust contrast/brightness and there you go: A beautiful screenshot...unfortunately not even close to being representative of actual gameplay footage...
Looks gorgeous in the screenshots... but isn't that always the case these days? I've seen the game running so I know it does look excellent but it doesn't look as crisp as those screenshots suggest. I'm guessing they have additional AA and are rendered at a higher resolution (1080p?) than the actual game.
Commented on 2009-06-12 22:46:14 In reply to Kukuk
Posted by Kukuk
Mmmm, bullshots.
Of course that other racing game ( ;) ) uses bullshots, but at least with it they seem a bit more believable.
Thats only because you want it to be more believeable. GT5p replay and photo mode are THE best in this industry as PD have always been able to produce realistic senery with them, even on PS2. They also are notorius for using CG in their opening intro videos that come nowhere near close to the actual gameplay and no other company has been able to get their game looking as good in replay or photo mode... if Forza 3 uses bullshots (photomode) then imagen what PD will do with its shots of GT5.
Commented on 2009-06-12 23:23:36 In reply to Bobby7777
Posted by Bobby7777
Looks really good!
However.. im not sure about the lack of a day/night cycle and no weather effects in forza 3.. this is LE MANS 24 HOURS.. get it turn 10? 24 hours.
so emulating 24 hours without night time racing is just weak.. even GRID did it and that is a arcade racing game.
Did they say it didn't?
No they didn't so wait and find out.
GT5's screenshots are also photomode.
Posted by Jato
Hehe, a bit harsh buy true.
The game looks great in photomode shots, but unfortunately that means jack shit. I've seen some photomode shots of Forza 2 that looked photorealistic (seriously). GT5 does the same in screenshots and trailers, pick some perfect angles and lighting conditions, boost AA, add blur and depth of field, adjust colour saturation, adjust contrast/brightness and there you go: A beautiful screenshot...unfortunately not even close to being representative of actual gameplay footage...
So you have personally played the latest build of Forza 3?
Commented on 2009-06-12 23:38:42 In reply to FordGTGuy
Posted by FordGTGuy
GT5's screenshots are also photomode.
There is no photomode in GT5(P) lol. In GT5P, the same renderer is used for showroom,pit,on track,and the home screen. The only time it changes is during replays when motion blur is added. Screens/trailers from both games are heavily touched up including these ones. If you think the game is actually going to look like that, then you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.
Commented on 2009-06-12 23:42:41 In reply to skeetskeet
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There is no photomode in GT5(P) you retards lol. In GT5P, the same renderer is used for showroom,pit,on track,and the home screen. The only time it changes is during replays when motion blur is added. Screens/trailers from both games are heavily touched up including these ones. If you think the game is actually going to look like that, then you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.
Wow 145 days trolling noob....
For one yes the released GT5 not GT5P screenshots are from its photomode. Also Turn 10 has already said that these are straight from photomode with no touch ups. You retard.
Can you count all the fanboys commenting? Because I can.
Commented on 2009-06-12 23:44:16 In reply to FordGTGuy
Posted by FordGTGuy
So you have personally played the latest build of Forza 3?
Is that a retorical question? I can't tell...haha!
In short...NO. What do I base my conclusions on? Forza 2 and the GT series as well as the Forza 3 gameplay footage shown thus far.
Furthermore, I've been able to replicate this "phenomena" with Cryengine 2 Sandbox editor. I've been fooling around with that and have been able to take snapshots of scenes that look almost photorealistc, all in-engine and playable. How I did it? By adjusting time of day settings, contrast levels, adding blur/depth of field etc. Problem is, it only looks photorealistic in certain 'perfect' conditions and at certain positions/angles (for instance, looking in direct sunlight with the sun at the highest position with only tree's and buildings in the distance visible in the scene. The depth of field and blur helps eliminate the obvious lack of real world details. And the thing is, as soon as I move to a "less ideal" spot, the game looks not even close to being photorealistic (throw in a few characters or vehicles and the illusion of photorealism is immediately vanished).
I'm pretty sure most developing studios take this exact approach to create these 'PR shots' or scenes. It's a clever trick as you can claim it's all in-enige, but it's the most deceiving PR-trick of all...
Is that a retorical question? I can't tell...haha!
In short...NO. What do I base my conclusions on? Forza 2 and the GT series as well as the Forza 3 gameplay footage shown thus far.
Furthermore, I've been able to replicate this "phenomena" with Cryengine 2 Sandbox editor. I've been fooling around with that and have been able to take snapshots of scenes that look almost photorealistc, all in-engine and playable. How I did it? By adjusting time of day settings, contrast levels, adding blur/depth of field etc. Problem is, it only looks photorealistic in certain 'perfect' conditions and at certain positions/angles (for instance, looking in direct sunlight with the sun at the highest position with only tree's and buildings in the distance visible in the scene. The depth of field and blur helps eliminate the obvious lack of real world details. And the thing is, as soon as I move to a "less ideal" spot, the game looks not even close to being photorealistic (throw in a few characters or vehicles and the illusion of photorealism is immediately vanished).
I'm pretty sure most developing studios take this exact approach to create these 'PR shots' or scenes. It's a clever trick as you can claim it's all in-enige, but it's the most deceiving PR-trick of all...
Can you explain that if these screen were indeed touched up then why can I still see ailising on the cars if looked close enough?
The last footage shown of Forza 3 was an unpolished month old build. It only makes sense that the game would look better after being polished for a month.
Commented on 2009-06-12 23:55:14 In reply to FordGTGuy
I don't think you got the point I'm making here and I'm affraid I can't explain it any better.
Other than that, I'm hoping to be impressed by this game in terms of visuals. I know I will be in terms of gameplay as I think Forza 2 probably has the most satisfying handling/feel out there. The addition of a cockpit view pretty much completes it, except for the visuals...so far from what I've seen.
Commented on 2009-06-12 23:55:21 In reply to FordGTGuy
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Posted by FordGTGuy
Wow 145 days trolling noob....
For one yes the released GT5 not GT5P screenshots are from its photomode. Also Turn 10 has already said that these are straight from photomode with no touch ups. You retard.
Can you count all the fanboys commenting? Because I can.
Actually I think you're the only fanboy here. I just speak the truth and use my brain to analyze things, unlike you. I find myself constantly correcting retards like you. I took it back the first time but now you've earned the title.
90% of that E3 trailer for GT5 was actual in-game with no touch ups. The WRC and JGTC scenes were the heavily touched up ones. I don't know which 'photomode' screens you're talking about but GT5 comes closest to matching the supersampled renders PD puts out period
Commented on 2009-06-13 00:01:34 In reply to skeetskeet
Actually, I believe PD are even greater masters of deception than turn10 in terms of "clever" PR shots and trailers as I described above. With GT5 Prologue I watched the trailers and was blown away. Then, when I actually played the game I wasn't impressed one bit...although...the car models are still fantastic.
Commented on 2009-06-13 00:07:34 In reply to skeetskeet
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Posted by skeetskeet
Actually I think you're the only fanboy here. I just speak the truth and use my brain to analyze things, unlike you. I find myself constantly correcting retards like you. I took it back the first time but now you've earned the title.
90% of that E3 trailer for GT5 was actual in-game with no touch ups. The WRC and JGTC scenes were the heavily touched up ones. I don't know which 'photomode' screens you're talking about but GT5 comes closest to matching the supersampled renders PD puts out period
WoW just WoW you know trolling will get you banned from this site right?
Commented on 2009-06-13 00:26:07 In reply to FordGTGuy
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Posted by FordGTGuy
WoW just WoW you know trolling will get you banned from this site right?
1.I don't consider it trolling since this is a debate.
2.If telling the truth is trolling, then so be it.
3.This site never does anything about troll, off topic, or fanboy comments.
4.If I'm banned, I'll be back in a few minutes with REAL troll comments.
Commented on 2009-06-13 00:31:01 In reply to skeetskeet
Posted by skeetskeet
There is no photomode in GT5(P) lol. In GT5P, the same renderer is used for showroom...
wrong, even PD assumed they use better shaders on showroom than in-game because they couldn't handle it to be real-time for play.
Why not make a car model better if there isn't enviroments or other cars is a good way of thinking. Too bad the enviremonts look like what they look in the game. ; )
Commented on 2009-06-13 00:34:31 In reply to nostradamus
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wrong, even PD assumed they use better shaders on showroom than in-game because they couldn't handle it to be real-time for play.
Why not make a car model better if there isn't enviroments or other cars is a good way of thinking. Too bad the enviremonts look like what they look in the game. ; )
See this is a real troll as well as an idiot. Posting misinformation is a dead giveaway lol.
Commented on 2009-06-13 00:36:37 In reply to skeetskeet
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1.I don't consider it trolling since this is a debate.
2.If telling the truth is trolling, then so be it.
3.This site never does anything about troll, off topic, or fanboy comments.
4.If I'm banned, I'll be back in a few minutes with REAL troll comments.
wow, just wow.
let there be trolls
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Commented on 2009-06-12 20:57:31 In reply to KORNdogThe game looks great in photomode shots, but unfortunately that means jack shit. I've seen some photomode shots of Forza 2 that looked photorealistic (seriously). GT5 does the same in screenshots and trailers, pick some perfect angles and lighting conditions, boost AA, add blur and depth of field, adjust colour saturation, adjust contrast/brightness and there you go: A beautiful screenshot...unfortunately not even close to being representative of actual gameplay footage...
Commented on 2009-06-12 21:04:03
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Commented on 2009-06-12 21:55:25Of course that other racing game ( ;) ) uses bullshots, but at least with it they seem a bit more believable.
Commented on 2009-06-12 21:58:26
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Commented on 2009-06-12 22:32:10 In reply to KukukOf course that other racing game ( ;) ) uses bullshots, but at least with it they seem a bit more believable.
Commented on 2009-06-12 22:46:14 In reply to KukukOf course that other racing game ( ;) ) uses bullshots, but at least with it they seem a bit more believable.
Commented on 2009-06-12 23:04:46However.. im not sure about the lack of a day/night cycle and no weather effects in forza 3.. this is LE MANS 24 HOURS.. get it turn 10? 24 hours.
so emulating 24 hours without night time racing is just weak.. even GRID did it and that is a arcade racing game.
Commented on 2009-06-12 23:23:36 In reply to Bobby7777However.. im not sure about the lack of a day/night cycle and no weather effects in forza 3.. this is LE MANS 24 HOURS.. get it turn 10? 24 hours.
so emulating 24 hours without night time racing is just weak.. even GRID did it and that is a arcade racing game.
No they didn't so wait and find out.
GT5's screenshots are also photomode.
The game looks great in photomode shots, but unfortunately that means jack shit. I've seen some photomode shots of Forza 2 that looked photorealistic (seriously). GT5 does the same in screenshots and trailers, pick some perfect angles and lighting conditions, boost AA, add blur and depth of field, adjust colour saturation, adjust contrast/brightness and there you go: A beautiful screenshot...unfortunately not even close to being representative of actual gameplay footage...
Commented on 2009-06-12 23:36:52 In reply to Nit3m4re
Commented on 2009-06-12 23:38:42 In reply to FordGTGuy
Commented on 2009-06-12 23:42:41 In reply to skeetskeetFor one yes the released GT5 not GT5P screenshots are from its photomode. Also Turn 10 has already said that these are straight from photomode with no touch ups. You retard.
Can you count all the fanboys commenting? Because I can.
Commented on 2009-06-12 23:44:16 In reply to FordGTGuyIn short...NO. What do I base my conclusions on? Forza 2 and the GT series as well as the Forza 3 gameplay footage shown thus far.
Furthermore, I've been able to replicate this "phenomena" with Cryengine 2 Sandbox editor. I've been fooling around with that and have been able to take snapshots of scenes that look almost photorealistc, all in-engine and playable. How I did it? By adjusting time of day settings, contrast levels, adding blur/depth of field etc. Problem is, it only looks photorealistic in certain 'perfect' conditions and at certain positions/angles (for instance, looking in direct sunlight with the sun at the highest position with only tree's and buildings in the distance visible in the scene. The depth of field and blur helps eliminate the obvious lack of real world details. And the thing is, as soon as I move to a "less ideal" spot, the game looks not even close to being photorealistic (throw in a few characters or vehicles and the illusion of photorealism is immediately vanished).
I'm pretty sure most developing studios take this exact approach to create these 'PR shots' or scenes. It's a clever trick as you can claim it's all in-enige, but it's the most deceiving PR-trick of all...
Commented on 2009-06-12 23:48:35 In reply to JatoIn short...NO. What do I base my conclusions on? Forza 2 and the GT series as well as the Forza 3 gameplay footage shown thus far.
Furthermore, I've been able to replicate this "phenomena" with Cryengine 2 Sandbox editor. I've been fooling around with that and have been able to take snapshots of scenes that look almost photorealistc, all in-engine and playable. How I did it? By adjusting time of day settings, contrast levels, adding blur/depth of field etc. Problem is, it only looks photorealistic in certain 'perfect' conditions and at certain positions/angles (for instance, looking in direct sunlight with the sun at the highest position with only tree's and buildings in the distance visible in the scene. The depth of field and blur helps eliminate the obvious lack of real world details. And the thing is, as soon as I move to a "less ideal" spot, the game looks not even close to being photorealistic (throw in a few characters or vehicles and the illusion of photorealism is immediately vanished).
I'm pretty sure most developing studios take this exact approach to create these 'PR shots' or scenes. It's a clever trick as you can claim it's all in-enige, but it's the most deceiving PR-trick of all...
The last footage shown of Forza 3 was an unpolished month old build. It only makes sense that the game would look better after being polished for a month.
Commented on 2009-06-12 23:55:14 In reply to FordGTGuyOther than that, I'm hoping to be impressed by this game in terms of visuals. I know I will be in terms of gameplay as I think Forza 2 probably has the most satisfying handling/feel out there. The addition of a cockpit view pretty much completes it, except for the visuals...so far from what I've seen.
Commented on 2009-06-12 23:55:21 In reply to FordGTGuyFor one yes the released GT5 not GT5P screenshots are from its photomode. Also Turn 10 has already said that these are straight from photomode with no touch ups. You retard.
Can you count all the fanboys commenting? Because I can.
90% of that E3 trailer for GT5 was actual in-game with no touch ups. The WRC and JGTC scenes were the heavily touched up ones. I don't know which 'photomode' screens you're talking about but GT5 comes closest to matching the supersampled renders PD puts out period
Commented on 2009-06-13 00:01:34 In reply to skeetskeet
Commented on 2009-06-13 00:07:34 In reply to skeetskeet90% of that E3 trailer for GT5 was actual in-game with no touch ups. The WRC and JGTC scenes were the heavily touched up ones. I don't know which 'photomode' screens you're talking about but GT5 comes closest to matching the supersampled renders PD puts out period
Commented on 2009-06-13 00:26:07 In reply to FordGTGuy2.If telling the truth is trolling, then so be it.
3.This site never does anything about troll, off topic, or fanboy comments.
4.If I'm banned, I'll be back in a few minutes with REAL troll comments.
Commented on 2009-06-13 00:31:01 In reply to skeetskeetWhy not make a car model better if there isn't enviroments or other cars is a good way of thinking. Too bad the enviremonts look like what they look in the game. ; )
Commented on 2009-06-13 00:34:31 In reply to nostradamusWhy not make a car model better if there isn't enviroments or other cars is a good way of thinking. Too bad the enviremonts look like what they look in the game. ; )
Commented on 2009-06-13 00:36:37 In reply to skeetskeet2.If telling the truth is trolling, then so be it.
3.This site never does anything about troll, off topic, or fanboy comments.
4.If I'm banned, I'll be back in a few minutes with REAL troll comments.
let there be trolls
Like I mentioned previously, its funny that the awesomeness of Forza III a.k.a. the real console simulator vs. the 'Perfecting kart bumper physics' simulator makes some fronts so desperate... Just lulz worthy
Commented on 2009-06-13 00:39:18Forza 3
http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/10894/1...
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/862/8628...
Both games look fine. Now, go get drunk ffs.