Electronic Arts released this high quality version of the gameplay sequence of Medal of Honor shown during their press conference in Cologne a few weeks ago, with lots of Helicopter action.
Damn that looked incredible, the graphics are some of the best i have seen although its obviously 'on rails'. I thought the gangsta rap in the background felt a little out of place though and the "Forget about the target, lets just fry the whole villiage" line was pretty typical of the death squads....i mean allied forces.
Although i'll probably end up buying this one, i have to say that the explosions of the new COD look a lot more fluent and colorful then this one. The scenery looks great in MOH, but the gameplay and explosions look a bit dated.
Commented on 2010-09-02 16:01:11 In reply to mastes1
Posted by mastes1
lets just fry the whole villiage" line was pretty typical of the death squads....i mean allied forces.
Seriously? Ignorance is bliss. I will never say that civilians aren't killed, unfortunately, but you have no idea how much more danger we put ourselves in by limiting force and the restrictions on use of equipment in order to minimize collateral damage. I was put in a number of frustrating situations because of this very thing. Deaths squads- you're an idiot. Sorry. If we didn't care about killing innocents we'd have just bombed the whole country and be done 9 years and hundreds of billions of dollars ago. Argh, I've got to stop coming in these MOH threads. I can't even talk about the game because certain people have to inject these ridiculously ignorant comments...
Sorry, this is a pretty touchy subject for me( adding relevance to the last MOH topic). It is pretty lame when she says to just "fry the whole village". The only way they'd do that is if intel told them it was all Taliban...
Clearly Frozpot took this way too personally, and thought mastes1 was attacking him. You must be a technician in the army or something, because to say that civilians are not killed, or have not been killed due to excessive force is insane or ignorant, or both. It's a war. Innocent people die, every war. Wouldn't be war if it wasn't so. Death squad is pretty bang on. These Apaches are not sending out flowers. It's a killing machine, dealing out death.
You don't like death? Get the f out of the war...
I wish it wasnt on-rails scenario, because gfx are awesome but there are things i dont like about it. Are they shooting with yellow laser beams instead of actual bullets ? Also exsplosions look weird to me. Gotta get it for SP only btw
Commented on 2010-09-02 20:03:37 In reply to Frozpot
Posted by loosethoughts
Clearly Frozpot took this way too personally, and thought mastes1 was attacking him. You must be a technician in the army or something, because to say that civilians are not killed, or have not been killed due to excessive force is insane or ignorant, or both. It's a war. Innocent people die, every war. Wouldn't be war if it wasn't so. Death squad is pretty bang on. These Apaches are not sending out flowers. It's a killing machine, dealing out death.
You don't like death? Get the f out of the war...
If you read my post
Posted by Frozpot
I will never say that civilians aren't killed, unfortunately, but you have no idea how much more danger we put ourselves in by limiting force and the restrictions on use of equipment in order to minimize collateral damage
I spent probably 80% of my time in country outside the wire, so you can stuff it dude. How much time did you spend? I didn't say innocents don't get killed, I took offense to Mastes1 calling our forces civilian death squads, which is a direct insult. We had equipment we couldn't use Because of the area effect of the weapons, and we had strict rules for Escalation of Force. The idea is targeted, precision fire( of course that can be difficult when shit hits the fan). An Apache, or whatever, will fire on specific targets, not raze a village, unless it's a stronghold or something. If there are civilians to consider, we send forces to sweep the town/village, and try to root out the enemy. As far as the Apache being a killing machine( it IS an attack hellicopter), You will get no argument there...
Pretty impressive graphics actually! Obviously 360 gameplay though, PC version clearly wouldn't be able to handle this...
i hope you're joking. what do you think a xbox 360 is? its a 5 year old piece of PC software.
and i mean in my opinion the graphics here are rather weak. the environment looks pretty good but whats up with the gunfire effects? the 30mm cannon on that apache looks like it is shooting tennis balls, with a damage effect no bigger then a water balloon splash. the explosion and effects look like they have no real effect on the environment aside from some buildings collapsing, which looked like a puzzle piece disappearing. i mean aside from a few tiny bit of dust coming from the ground on areas you hit, it looked weak.
one more thing, why are the apaches flying so low? they're designed to kill from hundreds of feet up, so why are they getting close enough to get shot at when its not necessary? all it does it give us a close up of the ugly explosion effects anyhow. in all honesty i wasn't very impressed, not because of the graphics but because of how its an on rail segment that doesn't even spice things up.
I didn't like the fire or smoke effects. The fire effects animate too quickly for as large as they are to look real. The smoke effects were pretty unrealistic as well. Everything else looked great though for sure.
Commented on 2010-09-03 16:35:43 In reply to Frozpot
Posted by Frozpot
I spent probably 80% of my time in country outside the wire, so you can stuff it dude. How much time did you spend? I didn't say innocents don't get killed, I took offense to Mastes1 calling our forces civilian death squads, which is a direct insult. We had equipment we couldn't use Because of the area effect of the weapons, and we had strict rules for Escalation of Force. The idea is targeted, precision fire( of course that can be difficult when shit hits the fan). An Apache, or whatever, will fire on specific targets, not raze a village, unless it's a stronghold or something. If there are civilians to consider, we send forces to sweep the town/village, and try to root out the enemy. As far as the Apache being a killing machine( it IS an attack hellicopter), You will get no argument there...
As for the video it makes sense that it is on rails or there would be less to no shooting. I don't really know how the workload is divided but I imagine the pilot does very little actual shooting as flying a helicopter is challenging enough...
Commented on 2010-09-03 16:58:34 In reply to munkini
Posted by munkini
Thank you for your service.
Thanks man, appreciate it. I'm not trying to get props, but the massive misunderstanding about our guys is disturbing- although, given how it's covered, it's not too surprising. That's not to say there aren't a few bad apples out there. A lot of unfortunate things happen in conflicts like these, though. That doesn't mean they are done intentionally. Anyways, I'm finished with this.
On topic, I think Mustachio is right on( an Apache would typically be quite far away). In such a rail-based moment, there should be crazy effects and detail going on. I don't get why devs just don't let the smoke hang there. Visibility is always a consideration, and I think obscuring it could add a lot of atmosphere. Especially if they could tailor the gameplay and AI to it. I've got a bit of a soft spot for the Apache- Dad was an attack helicopter pilot for 12 years, flew the Cobra first and then the AH-64 . I always thought it was cool that the chain gun follows the gunners head...
It's 5 year old tech, 10 years ahead of it's time!
no, its not really. you can do the same thing with a PC that you can a 360. only reason PC fails in the market is because some people are either too lazy or too busy to build a PC that runs well (you can get really cheap ones much more powerful than the 360), and because people pirate games so developers stay away from it to get more money. i mean maybe your computer wont be able to handle it, but i can play full server games on battlefield bad company 2 with a 50fps on full graphics (as opposed to 30fps on xbox 360 and lowered graphics) on my PC.
but hey if u were joking i just look like a fat dork right now.
Commented on 2010-09-05 14:49:36 In reply to mustacio
Posted by mustacio
no, its not really. you can do the same thing with a PC that you can a 360. only reason PC fails in the market is because some people are either too lazy or too busy to build a PC that runs well (you can get really cheap ones much more powerful than the 360), and because people pirate games so developers stay away from it to get more money. i mean maybe your computer wont be able to handle it, but i can play full server games on battlefield bad company 2 with a 50fps on full graphics (as opposed to 30fps on xbox 360 and lowered graphics) on my PC.
but hey if u were joking i just look like a fat dork right now.
Just ignore me, I was in a bit of a cheeky mood... :P
wow, those rounds hitting the ground and the houses and doing zero damage is really lame. after playing bad compnay 1 and 2, with all it's frostbite destruction...this just looks wrong.
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Commented on 2010-09-02 16:01:11 In reply to mastes1Sorry, this is a pretty touchy subject for me( adding relevance to the last MOH topic). It is pretty lame when she says to just "fry the whole village". The only way they'd do that is if intel told them it was all Taliban...
Commented on 2010-09-02 18:10:30You don't like death? Get the f out of the war...
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Commented on 2010-09-02 20:03:37 In reply to FrozpotYou don't like death? Get the f out of the war...
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Commented on 2010-09-02 23:56:36I think I'm spoiled with flying chopper in Bad Company 2.
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Commented on 2010-09-03 01:31:23 In reply to Jatoand i mean in my opinion the graphics here are rather weak. the environment looks pretty good but whats up with the gunfire effects? the 30mm cannon on that apache looks like it is shooting tennis balls, with a damage effect no bigger then a water balloon splash. the explosion and effects look like they have no real effect on the environment aside from some buildings collapsing, which looked like a puzzle piece disappearing. i mean aside from a few tiny bit of dust coming from the ground on areas you hit, it looked weak.
one more thing, why are the apaches flying so low? they're designed to kill from hundreds of feet up, so why are they getting close enough to get shot at when its not necessary? all it does it give us a close up of the ugly explosion effects anyhow. in all honesty i wasn't very impressed, not because of the graphics but because of how its an on rail segment that doesn't even spice things up.
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Commented on 2010-09-03 16:58:34 In reply to munkiniOn topic, I think Mustachio is right on( an Apache would typically be quite far away). In such a rail-based moment, there should be crazy effects and detail going on. I don't get why devs just don't let the smoke hang there. Visibility is always a consideration, and I think obscuring it could add a lot of atmosphere. Especially if they could tailor the gameplay and AI to it. I've got a bit of a soft spot for the Apache- Dad was an attack helicopter pilot for 12 years, flew the Cobra first and then the AH-64 . I always thought it was cool that the chain gun follows the gunners head...
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Commented on 2010-09-05 12:10:35 In reply to Jatobut hey if u were joking i just look like a fat dork right now.
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Commented on 2010-09-05 14:49:36 In reply to mustaciobut hey if u were joking i just look like a fat dork right now.
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