New week, new batch of Famitsu Weekly Dead or Alive 4. Without Team Ninja it seems no one would know that Xbox 360 will be released in Japan in about one month. Scary.
he is, i expect alot more from a so-called super console, ive seen Segas VF5 run in realtime (At the Sega's showing in the arcade convention ex) and it trumps all over DOA4, and (VF5) runs on less powerful hardware ..
Glad i havent pre-ordered a 360... its games are looking so-so... seen it all before ect,ect.
The characters have always been and always will be anime styled. You can't expect every game to have the same art direction or it'd be boring that way. For example, do you think a next-gen Katamari will feature realistic looking character faces and such? Any developer can grab a human model and scan his/her face into the game (which is what developers of Madden 2006 for the Xbox 360 have done) and apply skin textures. It's not hard to do and the 360 can handle it. Just don't expect Team Ninja to change the series art direction because of it.
If you want realistic character models, there's always sports games and such. The DOA series isn't supposed to look realistic. It's supposed to look beautiful, and it succeeds greatly.
Commented on 2005-11-19 20:55:47 In reply to synce
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The characters have always been and always will be anime styled. You can't expect every game to have the same art direction or it'd be boring that way. For example, do you think a next-gen Katamari will feature realistic looking character faces and such? Any developer can grab a human model and scan his/her face into the game (which is what developers of Madden 2006 for the Xbox 360 have done) and apply skin textures. It's not hard to do and the 360 can handle it. Just don't expect Team Ninja to change the series art direction because of it.
If you want realistic character models, there's always sports games and such. The DOA series isn't supposed to look realistic. It's supposed to look beautiful, and it succeeds greatly.
the art excuse is weak...just look at doa cg....the kind of shaders used for those chars skin,are now feasible in real time....self shadowing,per pixel lighting,full scene motion blur....way more complex chars....everything is feasible...but probly,to have the game ready....they dropped the purpose of a whole different gfx engine...
damn....even the animation look the same as the previous doa game since doa2....
Commented on 2005-11-19 21:37:56 In reply to satoshi
yep, animation is exactly the same, still does not match the animation of VF4 evo, nevermind VF5..
Notice how most parts of the clothes are 'stuck' to their bodies and the bits that are 'loose' dont even move in a realistic manner nor do they create individual shadows on the charators bodies..
When i saw VF5 in real time first thing i noticed was how awesome AKIRA's Gui moved.. seemed to move individually from his body and even casted realtime shadows on his body too.. it looked awesome.. crappy quality, but u can see the realtime clothes shadows : http://games.kikizo.com/media/virtuafighter5_sep05...
DOA4 dosent do this Kind of S$%t.. its still back in the last generation as far as charator models go..
Animation is still the same? Have you even seen it running, let alone played it?
I do prefer the VF5 character models, even if the hit detection is off at present (given the few gameplay clips I've seen), but Doa currently seems to have better overall graphics.
Well, if you want to compare DOA4 to VF5, don't forget to mention that every VF5 arena is small and ring-out. On the other hand, the environments in DOA4 are huge, interactive, and multi-tiered. I think VF5 looks like shit compared to DOA4. It's purely subjective. I find environments much more appealing that characters personally!
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Commented on 2005-11-19 18:31:01One thing I am puzzled about is the online lobby thing :P strange animals running around, i dont get it! (bottom half of 2nd scan)
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Commented on 2005-11-19 19:10:08go back to ur ps3 cgi videos
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Commented on 2005-11-19 19:11:47 In reply to Turicango back to ur ps3 cgi videos
Commented on 2005-11-19 19:27:04 In reply to satoshiDude if you think this isn't next-gen, you're clueless. Check out the side-by-side comparison I made here ----> http://doalive-club.1up.com/
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Commented on 2005-11-19 19:52:24 In reply to synceDude if you think this isn't next-gen, you're clueless. Check out the side-by-side comparison I made here ----> http://doalive-club.1up.com/
Commented on 2005-11-19 20:00:43he is, i expect alot more from a so-called super console, ive seen Segas VF5 run in realtime (At the Sega's showing in the arcade convention ex) and it trumps all over DOA4, and (VF5) runs on less powerful hardware ..
Glad i havent pre-ordered a 360... its games are looking so-so... seen it all before ect,ect.
Commented on 2005-11-19 20:08:38 In reply to f2hunterI wish I could say the same for the character models though. Seriously, where the **** is my self shadowing!? This is next-gen dammit!
Commented on 2005-11-19 20:13:01 In reply to FrenigerAlthough, the characters still look great.
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Commented on 2005-11-19 20:19:38If you want realistic character models, there's always sports games and such. The DOA series isn't supposed to look realistic. It's supposed to look beautiful, and it succeeds greatly.
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Commented on 2005-11-19 20:25:58Muramasa seems like a horndog. :D
Commented on 2005-11-19 20:55:47 In reply to synceIf you want realistic character models, there's always sports games and such. The DOA series isn't supposed to look realistic. It's supposed to look beautiful, and it succeeds greatly.
damn....even the animation look the same as the previous doa game since doa2....
Commented on 2005-11-19 21:37:56 In reply to satoshiNotice how most parts of the clothes are 'stuck' to their bodies and the bits that are 'loose' dont even move in a realistic manner nor do they create individual shadows on the charators bodies..
When i saw VF5 in real time first thing i noticed was how awesome AKIRA's Gui moved.. seemed to move individually from his body and even casted realtime shadows on his body too.. it looked awesome.. crappy quality, but u can see the realtime clothes shadows : http://games.kikizo.com/media/virtuafighter5_sep05...
DOA4 dosent do this Kind of S$%t.. its still back in the last generation as far as charator models go..
Backgrounds do look nice tho.
Commented on 2005-11-19 21:51:01I do prefer the VF5 character models, even if the hit detection is off at present (given the few gameplay clips I've seen), but Doa currently seems to have better overall graphics.
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