Our 360 videos of GRID 2

Commented on 2013-06-01 23:20:40

whoa, best looking car game on consoles. But him hearing it's a smowhat dissapoint game to most critics compared to the original. I hope it doesn't suck. handling seems kinda bad.

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KORNdog

Commented on 2013-06-01 23:27:03

Still can't believe they took out cockpit view for a minor graphical boost. So pointless. And reviews say it's pretty average, so could be another codies racer they've ruined (not like grid was too hot to begin with)

I dunno, not digging the look of it personally. Looks pretty nice though, in a stylised, "DiRT" sort of way.

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crookedmind

Commented on 2013-06-02 07:01:00

The issue I had with the first was that the car felt like it was on an ice-skate. Right smack in the center of the car. Sadly, if they don't release a demo I won't bother.

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moroboshi

Commented on 2013-06-02 09:10:45 In reply to KORNdog

Posted by KORNdog

Still can't believe they took out cockpit view for a minor graphical boost. So pointless. And reviews say it's pretty average, so could be another codies racer they've ruined (not like grid was too hot to begin with)

I dunno, not digging the look of it personally. Looks pretty nice though, in a stylised, "DiRT" sort of way.

People keep moaning about the lack of cockpit view, but as Codies have said repeatedly, - they have telemetry data from past titles, and only 5% of gamers ever used it.

Even if the rendering and memory cost wasn't so large, you also need to consider the huge cost of modelling all those interiors. It's akin to making a bunch of tracks which only 5% of players would ever see. It just doesn't make financial sense, especially when game sales are greatly depressed.

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Xoar

Commented on 2013-06-02 12:40:16

Have to admit im not really enjoying this Grid :( Game just seems to manic. Online the slowest cars feel FASTER than the f1 in GT5 meaning people are really struggling to control them and is just a crash fest. The faster cars are just insane and with the strange handling you get in Codies games these days it's just no fun.

Personally i think Codies are finished, Apart from the F1 series they now dont make any good games which is gutting as they were once a great company.

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Moonwalker

Commented on 2013-06-02 13:17:37

Goddamn i can not believe how much better the 360 version looks compared to PS3's version. I have the PS3 version for reviewing purposes and i thought it was my tv at first, but it clearly isn't. The PS3 version actually seems lower res and isn't nearly as crisp and clear as what i'm seeing in this video.

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nostradamus

Commented on 2013-06-02 13:55:19 In reply to Moonwalker

Posted by Moonwalker

Goddamn i can not believe how much better the 360 version looks compared to PS3's version. I have the PS3 version for reviewing purposes and i thought it was my tv at first, but it clearly isn't. The PS3 version actually seems lower res and isn't nearly as crisp and clear as what i'm seeing in this video.

first thing that comes to mind in these videos is that there isn't no screentearing wich is a godbless, and the game keeps the frames when there is a crazy ammount of burnouts going on. Technically, its really great, even on console.

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Moonwalker

Commented on 2013-06-02 15:48:00 In reply to nostradamus

Posted by nostradamus

first thing that comes to mind in these videos is that there isn't no screentearing wich is a godbless, and the game keeps the frames when there is a crazy ammount of burnouts going on. Technically, its really great, even on console.

I'm sad to say that the PS3 version suffers from a lot of screentearing and just isn't nearly as crisp looking at this. What a damn shame. It also doesn't seem to run as smooth as what i see in this video.

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nostradamus

Commented on 2013-06-02 15:52:35 In reply to Moonwalker

Posted by Moonwalker

I'm sad to say that the PS3 version suffers from a lot of screentearing and just isn't nearly as crisp looking at this. What a damn shame. It also doesn't seem to run as smooth as what i see in this video.

just remember how a piece of shit N4S:The Run is on consoles with the crappy Frostbite, when people were praising that shitty engine (on console) like there was no heaven, then maybe it will look a little better.

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Moonwalker

Commented on 2013-06-02 16:44:28 In reply to nostradamus

Posted by nostradamus

just remember how a piece of shit N4S:The Run is on consoles with the crappy Frostbite, when people were praising that shitty engine (on console) like there was no heaven, then maybe it will look a little better.

I could do that, or just simply go back to Forza Horizon ;).

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Zat

Commented on 2013-06-02 21:26:19 In reply to moroboshi

Posted by moroboshi

People keep moaning about the lack of cockpit view, but as Codies have said repeatedly, - they have telemetry data from past titles, and only 5% of gamers ever used it.

Even if the rendering and memory cost wasn't so large, you also need to consider the huge cost of modelling all those interiors. It's akin to making a bunch of tracks which only 5% of players would ever see. It just doesn't make financial sense, especially when game sales are greatly depressed.

Sorry, but You are the victim of the biggest bullshit every released. It was just lame excuse for not implement the cockpit view into their game. Its interesting, their telemetric data havent shown the fact, people always wanted to have their physics model improved.
Sorry, but all other much more successful racing games have the cockpit. Even the fucking phone application like Real Racing has it.

I call this laziness and babbling something about telemetric data is just ridiculous.

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Xoar

Commented on 2013-06-03 13:32:17 In reply to Moonwalker

Posted by Moonwalker

Goddamn i can not believe how much better the 360 version looks compared to PS3's version. I have the PS3 version for reviewing purposes and i thought it was my tv at first, but it clearly isn't. The PS3 version actually seems lower res and isn't nearly as crisp and clear as what i'm seeing in this video.

That's odd normally the Ego engine produces slightly better results on PS3.

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moroboshi

Commented on 2013-06-03 19:12:24 In reply to Zat

Posted by Zat

Sorry, but You are the victim of the biggest bullshit every released. It was just lame excuse for not implement the cockpit view into their game. Its interesting, their telemetric data havent shown the fact, people always wanted to have their physics model improved.
Sorry, but all other much more successful racing games have the cockpit. Even the fucking phone application like Real Racing has it.

I call this laziness and babbling something about telemetric data is just ridiculous.

Oh for goodness sake, spend some time actually learning about game dev before you spout any more uneducated, ill informed, illogical crap.

Better still, load up Maya and model a car interior to production detail and map it. See how long it takes. Then multiply that by how many cars are in a game like this. Don't forget to keep a note on how much memory your interior is going to eat up, and how much you're going to have to cut back on the environments to compensate.

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Zat

Commented on 2013-06-03 19:31:21 In reply to moroboshi

Pointless discussion. Why should I model something? I know it takes time, bla bla. Its their job. And they take money for it. If others can do it, why they dont? Cant be more logical. Oh...and this game has no superior graphics, so they need to exclude cockpits. Why they just dont say....ok, we didnt want to make cockpits. Thats ok. But dont try to impress us by some "data"...

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KORNdog

Commented on 2013-06-03 19:36:44

I think the 5 % stat is complete bullshit, used as a means to justify them not wanting to put the work in. It'd also be far more believable if other games weren't achieving the same thing with MORE cars. hell, even the first game in the series had cockpit view and the number of cars hasn't exactly jumped massively. the removal is nothing more then laziness. if people want to accept their bullshit marketing spiel about 5% telemetry data, then fine, doesn't stop it being BS.

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Zat

Commented on 2013-06-03 19:37:58 In reply to KORNdog

Thats what Im trying to say.

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SofaPrince

Commented on 2013-06-03 20:26:20 In reply to KORNdog

Posted by KORNdog

And reviews say it's pretty average, so could be another codies racer they've ruined (not like grid was too hot to begin with)

I beg your pardon? GRID changed racing video games, especially on consoles AND especially the way multiplayer works. And I have to say, critics of today who review games like bioshock infinite and then review grid 2 do not know cars or even racing games. Why are you putting so much weight into their opinions? Of course much of them will criticize the game with things like "much of the same" etc etc. It's in the details that make or break a racing video game and I feel like GRID 2 nailed it.

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KORNdog

Commented on 2013-06-03 20:51:25 In reply to SofaPrince

Posted by SofaPrince

I beg your pardon? GRID changed racing video games, especially on consoles AND especially the way multiplayer works. And I have to say, critics of today who review games like bioshock infinite and then review grid 2 do not know cars or even racing games. Why are you putting so much weight into their opinions? Of course much of them will criticize the game with things like "much of the same" etc etc. It's in the details that make or break a racing video game and I feel like GRID 2 nailed it.

I'm glad you're enjoying it.

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Moonwalker

Commented on 2013-06-04 01:25:31 In reply to Xoar

Posted by Xoar

That's odd normally the Ego engine produces slightly better results on PS3.

Hmmm ok, well i had no idea about that. But i was quite shocked. I thought it was a thing of the past by now that multiplats would look significantly better on 360, but i guess not. I have two examples for you, and while judging by Youtube videos isn't ideal...it's both Youtube videos, so that's something. See the difference, i wasn't joking when i said i was shocked when seeing the Gamersyde videos:

360:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u7pqFtW-eM

PS3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzUcAY216e8

Performance wise PS3 stutters more and more tearing.

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KORNdog

Commented on 2013-06-04 01:40:55 In reply to Moonwalker

Not that I doubt you or anything, but I can't see the difference there outside of the "720p" streams not being very clear. Maybe point out specific areas on the video you're talking about?

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Moonwalker

Commented on 2013-06-04 01:46:03

As soon as the race starts in Chicago. You can already see the 360 version having more crisp and clear looking buildings and the cars especially and environment in general. Performance wise during the whole video as well. It's like it's not even 720p on PS3 or something. I've checked out more GRID 2 videos on Youtube of both versions and each time the 360 version is clearly more sharp.

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Akumajo

Commented on 2013-06-04 02:35:39

If they took out the cockpit view then its a fail as sim... and more of an arcady racer... you cannot hide it anymore... the first Grid game was pretty much overhyped... it was rather weak compared to Forza and GT series, this sequel to grid game is kind of disappointing.

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