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Football - or soccer - fans all got their hands on the Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 demo yesterday and though we're a bit late - as we were at the games show in Paris yesterday - here are two videos of the 360 version. We'll start with a match opposing France to Italy but I'll add a video of a match between Barcelona and Liverpool as soon as possible. I captured these two videos in the hardest difficulty setting.
Update: The DE2 server should be working now.

First of all, it is worth mentioning that the demo seems to be the exact same one we saw in Cologne. The animations are still stiff and robotic and the controls are a bit awkward, as if the players were army tanks instead of human beings. I also found the collisions between the players to be very odd at times, same with the way the ball reacts when it gets stuck between two players. The goal keeper also has a surprising lack of efficiency and you will find yourself yelling at him more than once because he either dropped the ball or simply missed it.

Hopefully, when it comes to the visuals, the game really shines. It almost comes as a surprise to see that, not only has Konami managed to level up to EA's standards but they have even done a better job in some areas. The faces look stunning, the stadiums and pitch look good and even the crowd is not bad at all, considering you don't get to see it that much. What's more, the replays are also way better than in Fifa 10: they have good camera angles, they are varied - and many - at the end of a match while in Fifa, you more than often get to see very little of the highlights of the match. Eventually, the blur effects also feel more natural in the different cutscenes or replays than in Fifa 10.

So, what to think of this demo in the end? After playing it quite a bit, I have to say I am not convinced yet because the game still suffers from too many flaws. Now, word on the web is that the demo is actually from an old build and that the final version will be much, much better - with, for example, some new motion captured animations. Why then give players a reason to doubt the quality of the game by releasing such a demo? I don't know, but I still had fun playing it so I'm guessing PES fans will be content with this first try. Anyway, we'll find out soon enough as I plan on capturing some videos of the retail version as soon as the game is released. And there will be no more excuses then.

Trebby
Trebby
Commented on 2009-09-18 22:22:49
I'll judge whether to buy the game or not after I see some video's and player responses after the game's release.
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blmbox
blmbox
Commented on 2009-09-18 22:24:29 In reply to Trebby
Posted by Trebby
I'll judge whether to buy the game or not after I see some video's and player responses after the game's release.
I agree, and shall be doing the exact same thing - especially if this talk about the demo being from a very old build is true.

Anyway, I'm still having lots of fun with it and find it strangely addictive.
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bleachedsmiles
bleachedsmiles
Commented on 2009-09-18 22:53:14
yeah i'v ebeen hearing that its an old build too.. though what possible business sense it makes releasing a demo of an old build i dont know.

I really like it... reminds me of the old days with pes..playing with mates.

I'm not blind to its short comings though.. the AI is very hit and miss (regardless of difficulty).. goalkeepers are especially poor.. diving at crawling balls..and missing.

Visuals i cant fault, Commentry i expect to be second rate when compared to fifa which must hold the most impressive commentry work of any sports game. Online though will be really where it will count as a "buy" or not for me.. Pes doesnt have the most flattering record when it comes to online being up to scratch
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masteratt
masteratt
Commented on 2009-09-18 23:00:02
Hated PES6-PES2009 but loved this one, played it almost non-stop yesterday and quite a bit today. I'm really enjoying it, feels like PES again (minus the button lag but I hear that's been fixed).
That's all I'm going to say :)

*let the FIFA vs PES battle commence*
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tuffgong
tuffgong
Commented on 2009-09-18 23:54:42 In reply to masteratt
well, for me is a lost battle, i´m gonna play it, but this is still not a big improvement, i have played the demo for ps3 and the button lag is very upseting, and the game is really really slow!! i hope this is not the final version, or else, another year waiting for a good pes game.
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Damascus
Damascus
Commented on 2009-09-19 01:35:35
I'm looking forward for having some feedbacks from the final version when it will be out. The demo terrificly disappointed me.
first of all the ambient sound is just horrible, the referee with his rugby whistling, the crappy supporter songs and the ball basket-style noises...
Graphics are very good though, players are looking like their real model, but there is always a big lack in animations.
Ball physics just sucks, the same thing since PES2008...

When I play this, I really feel like playing with some robots/playmobils, I really have no feelings, the players don't seem to respond to my commands, that's really weird :/ they are stuck in rails and do their runs, I really don't like it.

I guess it will be a FIFA year again
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bleachedsmiles
bleachedsmiles
Commented on 2009-09-19 02:11:35
as much fun as i'm having with it theres no way it can be the final build. I'm noticing more and more clipping and general little glitches of players losing the ability to animate and sliding across the field with the ball before their legs remember they're running.

Having said that... i do still prefer it to the fifa 10 demo. Pes just feels more solid.. the ball feels like it has weight to it. Fifa 10's new improved 360 movements welcome but it also brings about a strange feeling of "lightness" to the game.. i cant really explain it.
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blmbox
blmbox
Commented on 2009-09-19 02:13:49 In reply to bleachedsmiles
Posted by bleachedsmiles
the ball feels like it has weight to it.
Yeah, it feels like you're kicking a bowling ball around...
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Woah
Woah
Commented on 2009-09-19 12:34:48
'Early build'? Sorry, i just don't buy it anymore, happens every year, PES demo comes out, it's crap, people say the final build will be better, PES is dead people, the glory days of the PS2/ISS days are gone and unless Konami do a complete overhaul they will never come back.
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staatsfeind1234
staatsfeind1234
Commented on 2009-09-19 16:45:06
pes was the king for a long time but fifa will be the next ruler of the soccer thron. i was a huge fan of pes and bought every new copy. but since pes 06 its going down. ea learned and brings the better soccer game now. pes 2010 feels so unreal and robotic. i will buy fifa for the first time and no copy of pes 2010.

R.I.P Pro Evolution Soccer 1994 - 2006
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rodchenko
rodchenko
Commented on 2009-09-19 22:53:45
Agree with Woah. Every year the few rabid PES-fanboys remaining keep telling us that (gameplay-wise) the real thing will be soooo much better because the demo is built on an 'early' review code. Of course, once the final game is out, there is never any difference to spot.

While this has arguably better graphics than FIFA(!) the animations are still based on the same robotic engine that was introduced practically 10 years ago. The way they run, dribble, pass, shoot and try to control the ball is no less than a caricature of football. I don't know why they made such a big deal about motion-capturing Messi when in the end he glides around the pitch like a hunchback on steroids. Sorry, but in this time and age there is no excuse for animations and transitions which – stripped off their next-gen visuals – would neatly fit into a PS1 game.

The one thing next to the looks that I prefer over FIFA is the net physics. They're about the only thing in the demo that is realistic. Everything else is just the same old PES overpatched to death without ever addressing the fundamental flaws in the engine.
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dingleberry
dingleberry
Commented on 2009-09-20 23:47:14
I would have given my views on this game, but the three posters above me have more or less stolen the words clean out of my mouth. Absolutely spot with everything they said. I'm actually surprised that people are now starting to see what I've been saying for over two years now.
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benni
benni
Commented on 2009-09-21 08:41:23
This message is in "Boulet Time" (TM), If you still *really* want to see it, click here
you make me laugh, did you ever played football for youself? in real life? i guess HELL NO!

but the truth is - both games are crap. pes is not so good...and fifa is crappy crap.
dingleberry
dingleberry
Commented on 2009-09-21 17:26:36
Yeah, I wrote that after just geting back from playing football. I mean, what do I know? I've only been playing it for most of my life. Grew up watching World Cups as early as Mexico 86 (earlierst I remember) and live and breath Liverpool FC, so yeah, I really don't have a clue how football is played or how to play it. Spot on.
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benni
benni
Commented on 2009-09-22 08:32:32
hehe, im just kidding :) wanted to provoke that kind of answer!

its every year the same...hate it or love it...but this year after yesterday playing the demo 2hrs..i love fifa more than PES.

i'm kind of tired of this response-time issue shit.
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