PGR3: Wireframe images

Styx

Commented on 2005-10-13 17:36:18

Impressive!

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INDIGO

Commented on 2005-10-13 17:37:30

I love it when they release screen-caps of their modeling software. Awesome stuff.

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bishop76

Commented on 2005-10-13 17:37:42

Incredible!!!! and this is a launch game.....i wonder how many polygons we'll see in forza 2!! :)

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GriftGFX

Commented on 2005-10-13 17:38:02

Me too, this stuff gets me off..love seeing those wireframes. Bizarre uses XSI, interesting--It's been forever since I've even seen a copy of Softimage--I'd love to try the new one.

Fun fact: Microsoft owned SoftImage from '94-'98, until Avid aquired the company from them--it's one of the few acquisitions that MS has split from.

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Goat

Commented on 2005-10-13 17:45:10 In reply to GriftGFX

Posted by GriftGFX

Me too, this stuff gets me off..love seeing those wireframes. Bizarre uses XSI, interesting--It's been forever since I've even seen a copy of Softimage--I'd love to try the new one.

It's never too late to give it a try! Softimage just released XSI 5.0 and you can try a 30-day trial for free: http://www.softimage.com/products/xsi/v5/foundatio...
I believe it also includes PDF and HTML documentation so you'll have all you need to learn ;)

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INDIGO

Commented on 2005-10-13 17:47:19

BTW, I think you might mean "apology" not "excuse"..?

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GriftGFX

Commented on 2005-10-13 17:49:19 In reply to Goat

Posted by Goat

It's never too late to give it a try! Softimage just released XSI 5.0 and you can try a 30-day trial for free: http://www.softimage.com/products/xsi/v5/foundatio...
I believe it also includes PDF and HTML documentation so you'll have all you need to learn ;)

Hey thanks for the tip, didn't realise they did free trials--downloading now :) Are you a 3D artist? Is XSI a good solution for people using 3D for non-animation purposes such as illustration and graphic design? I've switched around quite a bit trying different things, Max, Maya, Lightwave--currently for illustration purposes I find Lightwave to be a pretty enjoyable package, and the renderer is friggin amazing.

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futromurzyna

Commented on 2005-10-13 17:50:56

WOOW

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XBox360Man77

Commented on 2005-10-13 17:53:25

Bizzare is leading the way to next-gen. I am so impressed by everything they show, if only the PDZ team would give us some things like this, and those super slick 3D screenshots.

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Goat

Commented on 2005-10-13 17:58:15 In reply to GriftGFX

Posted by GriftGFX

Hey thanks for the tip, didn't realise they did free trials--downloading now :) Are you a 3D artist? Is XSI a good solution for people using 3D for non-animation purposes such as illustration and graphic design? I've switched around quite a bit trying different things, Max, Maya, Lightwave--currently for illustration purposes I find Lightwave to be a pretty enjoyable package, and the renderer is friggin amazing.

Yup I'm a 3D artist and yeah XSI is quite a good solution. Although it has excellent animation tools you'll find the other toolsets are just as good. There are certain limitations that might make you go "wtf?" at times but its workflow can't be matched IMO. The renderer is superb (a native integration of mentalray) and via the rendertree (sort of like the shade network in maya) you have access to pretty much everything you want in terms of shading. Then there's the render region (press Q and draw a square box on any viewport, and it renders instantly) and other innovations that are amazing to work with. I could go on and on as you can see, but its def a great package :)

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[quote=GriftGFX]
Hey thanks for the tip, didn't realise they did free trials--downloading now :)  Are you a 3D artist?  Is XSI a good solution for people using 3D for non-animation purposes such as illustration and graphic design?  I've switched around quite a bit trying different things, Max, Maya, Lightwave--currently for illustration purposes I find Lightwave to be a pretty enjoyable package, and the renderer is friggin amazing.[/quote]

Yup I'm a 3D artist and yeah XSI is quite a good solution. Although it has excellent animation tools you'll find the other toolsets are just as good. There are certain limitations that might make you go "wtf?" at times but its workflow can't be matched IMO. The renderer is superb (a native integration of mentalray) and via the rendertree (sort of like the shade network in maya) you have access to pretty much everything you want in terms of shading. Then there's the render region (press Q and draw a square box on any viewport, and it renders instantly) and other innovations that are amazing to work with. I could go on and on as you can see, but its def a great package :)

GriftGFX

Commented on 2005-10-13 18:07:23 In reply to Goat

Posted by Goat

Yup I'm a 3D artist and yeah XSI is quite a good solution. Although it has excellent animation tools you'll find the other toolsets are just as good. There are certain limitations that might make you go "wtf?" at times but its workflow can't be matched IMO. The renderer is superb (a native integration of mentalray) and via the rendertree (sort of like the shade network in maya) you have access to pretty much everything you want in terms of shading. Then there's the render region (press Q and draw a square box on any viewport, and it renders instantly) and other innovations that are amazing to work with. I could go on and on as you can see, but its def a great package :)

Excellent, my DL has 10 minutes left :) I'll probably wait til later this evening to check it out, I've been doing primarly 2D work for the last year or so--but I've never lost interest in modeling--been doing it on the side for quite some time..even considered doing 3D animation in school but I wound up going through the Graphic Design program instead--still no reason to give up on 3D though, I find it to be a terribly useful illustration tool, 3D for 2D if you will..

I'd also like to get into game modeling a bit, but I'm not exactly sure where to start--my experience hasn't been with dealing with polygon budgets..I'd love to get some people together to work on a HL2 of BF2 mod or something--it'd be good, fun practice.

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[quote=Goat]

Yup I'm a 3D artist and yeah XSI is quite a good solution. Although it has excellent animation tools you'll find the other toolsets are just as good. There are certain limitations that might make you go "wtf?" at times but its workflow can't be matched IMO. The renderer is superb (a native integration of mentalray) and via the rendertree (sort of like the shade network in maya) you have access to pretty much everything you want in terms of shading. Then there's the render region (press Q and draw a square box on any viewport, and it renders instantly) and other innovations that are amazing to work with. I could go on and on as you can see, but its def a great package :)[/quote]

Excellent, my DL has 10 minutes left :) I'll probably wait til later this evening to check it out, I've been doing primarly 2D work for the last year or so--but I've never lost interest in modeling--been doing it on the side for quite some time..even considered doing 3D animation in school but I wound up going through the Graphic Design program instead--still no reason to give up on 3D though, I find it to be a terribly useful illustration tool, 3D for 2D if you will..

I'd also like to get into game modeling a bit, but I'm not exactly sure where to start--my experience hasn't been with dealing with polygon budgets..I'd love to get some people together to work on a HL2 of BF2 mod or something--it'd be good, fun practice.

DubC

Commented on 2005-10-13 18:15:38

Blim... you misquoted them... They said the average is actually 96,000 polygons, as some go as high as 105,000!!

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Goat

Commented on 2005-10-13 18:28:08

Yeah modding is definitely a great way to experiment with game constraints like polygon budget and texture memory. HL2 was developed using XSI for the characters and creatures, Softimage have even created a version of XSI called the modtool (I think) which allows you to export meshes to HL2. Might be a worth trying out :)

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BlimBlim

Commented on 2005-10-13 18:34:12 In reply to DubC

Posted by DubC

Blim... you misquoted them... They said the average is actually 96,000 polygons, as some go as high as 105,000!!

It's not my news :D

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Manager

Commented on 2005-10-13 18:34:19

INDIGO:
Yeah, sorry about that, was in a kind of a rush.

DubC:
Yeah, you're right. Damn, many errors.

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XBox360Man77

Commented on 2005-10-13 18:46:32

I cant believe Bizarre would lie to us like this...how long have they been hiding this from us I'm cancelling my pre-order, I didnt believe Kutaragi when he said Xbox 1.5, but now I know he was right allllll along.

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Scarface

Commented on 2005-10-13 19:11:56 In reply to XBox360Man77

Posted by XBox360Man77

I cant believe Bizarre would lie to us like this...how long have they been hiding this from us I'm cancelling my pre-order, I didnt believe Kutaragi when he said Xbox 1.5, but now I know he was right allllll along.

What?!?

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judge_john

Commented on 2005-10-13 19:23:24

i think he's taking the piss

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caco

Commented on 2005-10-13 19:26:34 In reply to GriftGFX

Posted by GriftGFX

Excellent, my DL has 10 minutes left :) I'll probably wait til later this evening to check it out, I've been doing primarly 2D work for the last year or so--but I've never lost interest in modeling--been doing it on the side for quite some time..even considered doing 3D animation in school but I wound up going through the Graphic Design program instead--still no reason to give up on 3D though, I find it to be a terribly useful illustration tool, 3D for 2D if you will..

I'd also like to get into game modeling a bit, but I'm not exactly sure where to start--my experience hasn't been with dealing with polygon budgets..I'd love to get some people together to work on a HL2 of BF2 mod or something--it'd be good, fun practice.

I use XSI mainly for the Toon Shader, I'm sure you're aware that the Appleseed movie was made using this shader primarily. You can do some really creative things with it.

CaCo

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XBox360Man77

Commented on 2005-10-13 19:54:05 In reply to Scarface

Posted by Scarface

What?!?

Its called sarcasm...

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Goat

Commented on 2005-10-13 20:03:06 In reply to caco

Posted by caco

I use XSI mainly for the Toon Shader, I'm sure you're aware that the Appleseed movie was made using this shader primarily. You can do some really creative things with it.

CaCo

Indeed, it has to be one of the most (if not the most) powerful toon shader out there... Yep Appleseed is a good testament of the power of that shader :) In fact I'm working on a contract atm and I'm using it... pure bliss :)

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