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Since 5258 Days

Well derrrrr I know that, but when your replying to my quote with something I've not said, it's a bit silly.

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Since 7182 Days

The internet is in chaos following the Ground Zeroes announcement of 720p vs 1080p .... very entertaining, I must say.... and while the internet furor goes on I will keep playing games on PS3/Xbox360 and enjoying myself.

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sanex

Since 5440 Days

Posted by volvicstraw

I hope these SDK updates keep on rolling out fast.

Bolcato stated that, “It was clearly a bit more complicated to extract the maximum power from the Xbox One when you’re trying to do that. I think eSRAM is easy to use. The only problem is…Part of the problem is that it’s just a little bit too small to output 1080p within that size. It’s such a small size within there that we can’t do everything in 1080p with that little buffer of super-fast RAM.

“It means you have to do it in chunks or using tricks, tiling it and so on. It’s a bit like the reverse of the PS3. PS3 was harder to program for than the Xbox 360. Now it seems like everything has reversed but it doesn’t mean it’s far less powerful – it’s just a pain in the ass to start with. We are on fine ground now but the first few months were hell.”
Will the process become easier over time as understanding of the hardware improves? “Definitely, yeah. They are releasing a new SDK that’s much faster and we will be comfortably running at 1080p on Xbox One. We were worried six months ago and we are not anymore, it’s got better and they are quite comparable machines. The Xbox One is a bit more multimedia, a bit more hub-centric so its a bit more complex. There’s stuff you can and can’t do because it’s a sort of multimedia hub. PS4 doesn’t have that. PS4 is just a games machine.”

The PS4 is thus more of a gaming machine in its core focus. “Yeah, I mean that’s probably why, well at least on paper, it’s a bit more powerful. But I think the Xbox One is gonna catch up. But definitely there’s this eSRAM. PS4 has 8GB and it’s almost as fast as eSRAM [bandwidth wise] but at the same time you can go a little bit further with it, because you don’t have this slower memory. That’s also why you don’t have that many games running in 1080p, because you have to make it smaller, for what you can fit into the eSRAM with the Xbox One.”

This was mentioned last year by the leakers also, but there will always be a difference (if the multiplat devs choose to implement), weather it be more frames or more bells and whistles on the ps4, but yeah big differences with time will get closer on multiplat titles, with the exclusives on both sides really showing what each console can do.

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[quote=volvicstraw]I hope these SDK updates keep on rolling out fast.

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Bolcato stated that, “It was clearly a bit more complicated to extract the maximum power from the Xbox One when you’re trying to do that. I think eSRAM is easy to use. The only problem is…Part of the problem is that it’s just a little bit too small to output 1080p within that size. It’s such a small size within there that we can’t do everything in 1080p with that little buffer of super-fast RAM.

“It means you have to do it in chunks or using tricks, tiling it and so on. It’s a bit like the reverse of the PS3. PS3 was harder to program for than the Xbox 360. Now it seems like everything has reversed but it doesn’t mean it’s far less powerful – it’s just a pain in the ass to start with. We are on fine ground now but the first few months were hell.”
Will the process become easier over time as understanding of the hardware improves? “Definitely, yeah. They are releasing a new SDK that’s much faster and we will be comfortably running at 1080p on Xbox One. We were worried six months ago and we are not anymore, it’s got better and they are quite comparable machines. The Xbox One is a bit more multimedia, a bit more hub-centric so its a bit more complex. There’s stuff you can and can’t do because it’s a sort of multimedia hub. PS4 doesn’t have that. PS4 is just a games machine.”

The PS4 is thus more of a gaming machine in its core focus. “Yeah, I mean that’s probably why, well at least on paper, it’s a bit more powerful. But I think the Xbox One is gonna catch up. But definitely there’s this eSRAM. PS4 has 8GB and it’s almost as fast as eSRAM [bandwidth wise] but at the same time you can go a little bit further with it, because you don’t have this slower memory. That’s also why you don’t have that many games running in 1080p, because you have to make it smaller, for what you can fit into the eSRAM with the Xbox One.”[/quote]

http://gamingbolt.com/xbox-ones-esram-too-small-to-output-games-at-1080p-but-will-catch-up-to-ps4-rebellion-games[/quote]

Phaethon360

Since 7098 Days

Posted by volvicstraw

Well derrrrr I know that, but when your replying to my quote with something I've not said, it's a bit silly.

You were being hopeful, nothing wrong with that, but the article you quoted cites an idea that SDK updates alone will allow 1080p/60fps - which is impossible. It just echoes the eventual parity, MrX quotes, etc that have come up in the past. There's nothing those updates can do to improve the abilities of the console, which was their point.

Let's leave it on the last page.

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Since 5258 Days

And my point is that I hope these updates the DEV mentioned keep on coming so I get a better gaming experience.

Posted by sanex

Pretty much yeah, will have both consoles by the end of the month, so
I can enjoy all the games I want to play.

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Since 6656 Days

https://twitter.com/ManaByte/status/43541614834393...

Thief:

1080p/30 PS4
900p/30 XB1

and yet another for the list.

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Since 7182 Days

Posted by KORNdog

https://twitter.com/ManaByte/status/435416148343939072

Thief:

1080p/30 PS4
900p/30 XB1

and yet another for the list.

Oh dear.... It is entirely up to MS to prove that Xone is capable of 1080p/60fps via their first party now if they still keep touting that it is possible.

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Sath

Since 7118 Days

Let's face it, at this point I dont think we will see any if not, extremely rare, 1080p titles for X1 while we will see majority or all of them (as it has been so far) 1080p on PS4.

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docLEXfisti

Since 7371 Days

new insider info from Gamepur

Watch Dogs: 900p/30fps on Xbox One --> 1080p/30fps on PS4
Witcher 3: 720p/30fps on Xbox One --> 900p/30fps on PS4 [struggling to get to 1080p]

http://www.gamepur.com/news/13713-resolution-gate-...

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the only tyrant I accept is my inner voice [and my two kids ;)]

Getting' all digital, baby - on console!

Since 6656 Days

Posted by docLEXfisti

new insider info from Gamepur

Watch Dogs: 900p/30fps on Xbox One --> 1080p/30fps on PS4
Witcher 3: 720p/30fps on Xbox One --> 900p/30fps on PS4 [working hard to keep 1080p]

http://www.gamepur.com/news/13713-resolution-gate-...

Fixed that for ya!

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docLEXfisti

Since 7371 Days

thx! but 900p isn't bad after all ... the Order is only 800p and also gorgeous!

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the only tyrant I accept is my inner voice [and my two kids ;)]

Getting' all digital, baby - on console!

Since 7182 Days

Welcome to the next generation.......

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Since 6656 Days

Posted by docLEXfisti

thx! but 900p isn't bad after all ... the Order is only 800p and also gorgeous!

It isn't 800p (thank fuck) It's 1080p with black bars, the same way that blu ray you last watched was 1080p with black bars. No upscaling required unlike ryse etc. dat 1:1 pixel mapping.

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docLEXfisti

Since 7371 Days

whatever works for you honey

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the only tyrant I accept is my inner voice [and my two kids ;)]

Getting' all digital, baby - on console!

Since 6656 Days

Posted by docLEXfisti

whatever works for you honey

The truth generally does...so maybe stick to that next time :)

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GriftGFX

Since 7252 Days

Posted by docLEXfisti

whatever works for you honey

He's not wrong. Probably just bending dah troof though right?

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sanex

Since 5440 Days

Posted by volvicstraw

And my point is that I hope these updates the DEV mentioned keep on coming so I get a better gaming experience.

Pretty much yeah, will have both consoles by the end of the month, so
I can enjoy all the games I want to play.

At any res you want to play lol
:)

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Sath

Since 7118 Days

Posted by KORNdog

It isn't 800p (thank fuck) It's 1080p with black bars, the same way that blu ray you last watched was 1080p with black bars. No upscaling required unlike ryse etc. dat 1:1 pixel mapping.

Yep thats how it is.
Though i hate the black bars, i understand why in movies but in games? fuck that. Give me the entire screen covered and keep that gimmick shit out of it.

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Since 7182 Days

I still cant believe people think that SDK updates can make The Xbox One more capable.... Stop being in denial and face the truth, MS screwed up, simple as that.

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Since 5258 Days

Posted by alimokrane

I still cant believe people think that SDK updates can make The Xbox One more capable.... Stop being in denial and face the truth, MS screwed up, simple as that.

Of course better tools/drivers will make it more capable with time, just like the ps4 will get better with time, but even when devs start hitting constant res parity the ps4 will still push better frams and textures, so there will always be disparity between the two.

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scoobs0688

Since 5887 Days

Posted by docLEXfisti

whatever works for you honey

This is literally the cutest thing

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Since 6656 Days

Posted by volvicstraw

but even when devs start hitting constant res parity

I think "if" fits better then "when"

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Since 5258 Days

Posted by KORNdog

I think "if" fits better then "when"

Well a number of multiplat games are already at res parity so
Not IF. My point is even when it happens there will still be some disparity.

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