fabreezwait
Since 5430 Days
Posted by BLackHawkodst
New Bulletin - http://halo.xbox.com/blogs/Headlines/post/2012/06/...

RTX and Comicon to have loads of new info.
Hope we get some SP info and not just MP.
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Redneck
Redneck
Since 6938 Days
Posted by fabreezwait
Hope we get some SP info and not just MP.
Lesser SP info means less spoiling.

Personally, I dont want to know all the new enemies and locations before launch...
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fabreezwait
Since 5430 Days
And i'm sure they wont reveal all that, but i still want to see a little more SP.
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 7096 Days
Master Chief finds a weird planet. Covenant find weird planet. They both race to uncover the secrets. They find a new, ancient race that wants to start some shit. Covenant gets scared off and dies. Master Chief kicks ass. Planet blows up. Master Chief goes back into space.
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GriftGFX
Since 7250 Days
Posted by Phaethon360
Master Chief finds a weird planet. Covenant find weird planet. They both race to uncover the secrets. They find a new, ancient race that wants to start some shit. Covenant gets scared off and dies. Master Chief kicks ass. Planet blows up. Master Chief goes back into space.
You're not telling me there's a formula, are you? Next thing you know, I'll find out that Spartan Ops isn't wholly original. Or that this game has disguised killstreaks and a built in wall hack.
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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 7143 Days
Posted by Phaethon360
Master Chief finds a weird planet. Covenant find weird planet. They both race to uncover the secrets. They find a new, ancient race that wants to start some shit. Covenant gets scared off and dies. Master Chief kicks ass. Planet blows up. Master Chief goes back into space.
None of that really matters in the grand scheme of things. That's the beauty of it. There's always new secrets and discoveries, an entirely new story where you experience new exciting things in the Halo Universe. That's half the fun. Cortana has never been this far gone into rampancy and at the end of her lifespan before. That will introduce entirely new elements into the story. Humanity believes the Chief is dead. I can't wait to see them find out that such isn't the case, and to what extent this information spreads to the leadership structure of the USNC/ONI.

Master Chief has never encountered the Forerunners before, neither has the Covenant. They aren't just your typical ancient race. They are the creators of the Halos. They wiped out a race that apparently created all races, the Precursors. There are strong hints that even the Precursors aren't entirely extinct, too, which could make things that much more interesting. We aren't dealing with a Halo this time. We are dealing with a shield world. From a fiction standpoint, this makes a world of difference. May not to you, but it will to a lot of people such as myself that care about this kind of stuff. The Master Chief has never had a true rival before. The Arbiter was but a tease in that regard, never the real deal. The Didact is a whole other story. The Didact's motivations and goals are entirely foreign compared to the objectives of the Covenant. Another thing to keep in mind is that humanity is no longer at war with the entity known as the Covenant. We are in entirely new territory in Halo 4 with regards to the Covenant, and they can go in so many directions regarding that angle in this game. What we're dealing with in Halo 4 is but a few factions of the Covenant that still want to believe in the lies they were told. May mean nothing to some, but for people that care about the fiction, it's a pretty big deal.

Something has to happen to Cortana. I doubt she's going to just up and go away or become some permanent enemy to the Chief. She might develop to a degree where she is on par with the best of forerunner AIs if she has any chance whatsoever of surviving and continuing to be of use to the Chief. It's suggested the Librarian is still alive. Could that play into this game? Could the Didact learn this information? There's the still very mysterious Composer that was hinted at like crazy in the 2nd book in the Forerunner trilogy. This is called the Reclaimer trilogy. The precursors seem to have some weird test to see who is worthy of succeeding them, who is worthy of acquiring something they had in their possession, it could be almost anything, don't really know, but the Precursors have some very secret ambitions, and, for whatever reason, those ambitions involve the fall of the forerunner civilization, and the rise of humanity. Could the Didact be trying to prove that the Primordial was wrong about humanity rising above the Forerunners? Is this term Reclaimer more than meets the eye? This game and this trilogy could give that term entirely new meaning.

Man, I can go on and on. This game and this entire trilogy and where the story can go has me hyped. Yea, it doesn't take a genius to understand that the game has to have a basic formula. Most games, especially sequels, tend to have a formula. However, I'll take some more of that awesome and compelling formula again and again.

Chief > you all :D
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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

fabreezwait
Since 5430 Days
Well put.. :)
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 7096 Days
It's okay to enjoy something. But this cultish devotion has me fearful for the very fabric of society if even 1% of the people buying this game are at or beyond Optimus Prime levels.

Hold my hat. I'm joining the Decepticons.
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BLackHawkodst
BLackHawkodst
Since 6137 Days
I'm with the Autobots and Optimus Prime!! :D
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BLackHawkodst
BLackHawkodst
Since 6137 Days
New Forward Unto Dawn Teaser Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8me1cD01Lw

Awesome!!
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fabreezwait
Since 5430 Days
Posted by BLackHawkodst
New Forward Unto Dawn Teaser Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8me1cD01Lw

Awesome!!
Goosebumps!! :)
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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 7143 Days
Posted by Phaethon360
It's okay to enjoy something. But this cultish devotion has me fearful for the very fabric of society if even 1% of the people buying this game are at or beyond Optimus Prime levels.

Hold my hat. I'm joining the Decepticons.
Now that's just low. Joining the Decepticons? Everybody knows they sleep with their sisters :P

I'd say far more than 1% of the people buying the game are as interested and excited about the fiction as I am. Heck, most shooters don't have anywhere close to the type of depth, characters and universe that Halo does, so you kinda can't blame people for geeking out just a tad (or a whole lot). I'm also not even anywhere close to the most excitable person there is with regards to Halo's fiction. You have people that write massive articles and maintain entire sites around the Halo fiction. I'm a lightweight by comparison.

Okay, that teaser pushes the excitement up a tad :) Man, the way the Chief just appears is so badass.
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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

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Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

Tinks
Tinks
Since 7180 Days
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7250 Days
I just think it's hilarious that people think this story is going to be shockingly good. Give me a break.
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I'd say far more than 1% of the people buying the game are as interested and excited about the fiction as I am.
I seriously doubt that. You're making people who enjoy the Halo universe (myself included) cringe. Do you write fan fics?
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fabreezwait
Since 5430 Days
No ones saying the story is going to be oscar winning, its just more exciting for those of us that have read all the books and are now looking forward to seeing and battling the new foes we have read so much about finally come to the screen.

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Redneck
Redneck
Since 6938 Days
Halo is one of the very few games that keep me exited, because game-play wise, it shits on the competition.

Well, a bit less provoking spoken, it is by far the most enjoyable fps to play (imo).

I played all of Halo's campaigns multiple times, while I couldn't bear finishing (e.g.) any CoD I ever played.

If the story turns out to be good in Halo 4, then....good.
If not, then I don't give a toss. At least, from what we have seen so far, it seems that the cut-scenes will be circa 2 leagues above the previous Halos.
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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 7143 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
I just think it's hilarious that people think this story is going to be shockingly good. Give me a break.



I seriously doubt that. You're making people who enjoy the Halo universe (myself included) cringe. Do you write fan fics?
The problem with some of you folks sometimes, is that it seems like you're bordering on being offended by the mere fact that someone really likes something. I don't see what the big deal is. To you, the story may not seem like it's going to be much of anything good, but other people, such as myself, like to believe otherwise and have very good reason for approaching it in such a manner. The simplest reason of all: This trilogy is actually meant to be a trilogy from the very start. You don't get that sense at all from the first Halo trilogy. That fact alone, along with the much more focused effort by 343 to tie the books and the games together, gives you plenty of reason to believe that the story of Halo 4, and of the entire trilogy, should be handled very well. As Frankie said, most of what you know about the Chief as a person was usually always left up to the books, and this time they're making an effort to bring that into the game. How well they end up handling it will be up for dispute, but I don't see the problem with being excited about it.

I make you cringe because I love to read the books and enjoy the games and get excited when I talk about them? I like to view all Halo games as a supplement to my enjoyment of the fiction in the books. Reading the books enhance my enjoyment of the Halo games. If it weren't for the books, I probably wouldn't like the Halo games as much as I do. Hell, I'd probably go so far as to say that I maybe wouldn't have bought any of them all the way up to Reach. Halo 4, from that SP demo, would have hooked me regardless, I think. Before I ever played a single Halo game, I read the books. Whereas some people started playing the games first, and then got into the books (if they cared to), it was the complete opposite for me.

And, no, I don't waste my damn time with writing Halo fanfics. Why in the flying you know what would I ever want to do such a useless thing? If it isn't coming officially from the people in charge of the Halo universe, I could care less what some fanfic clowns make up. I'm the same way when it comes to manga. There are people far more hardcore than I am, because there are plenty of people who do write and read Halo fanfic. Then there are people who do both. They spend all kinds of time combing through the timeline for the events associated to the entire universe and obsess over details that even I think are too tiresome to worry about. I merely take a passing interest in the timeline and breakdown of events. And you want to talk about what makes you cringe? I cringe at the thought that anyone wasted their time searching for damn skulls in Halo 3 (huge waste of time). As far I'm concerned, that's infinitely worse than anything I do. I don't care what the justification is, searching every inch of a map for a damn skull is stupid (No offense to people who do it :P)

But to each his own, I won't let your negativity affect my enjoyment of the Halo books/games. Newsflash: Halo 4's story nor the books need to be the best written things ever in order to still be an enjoyable and well told story. Hell, just the E3 SP demo alone is already a sign of the improvements being made to the way the story is told in Halo games. Still a sandbox game, but scripted sequences done right are very effective ways to tell a story. Doubt that "far more than 1%" statement all you want, but if you ever took a look at bungie's forums when they were making the games, or if you take a look at official forum fiction discussions that go into far more detail than I've ever done on here, you wouldn't doubt for a single moment that there are many more people who care about this stuff. Also, no matter how many times I say it, people still seem to doubt it, but more people buy and play Halo for the singleplayer campaign than those who buy it to play multiplayer. Even Frankie himself admitted that more people play SP than those that play MP. Spartan Ops exists for the sole reason to try and get more of those SP gamers on board with the multi.

Yea, let's not ever forget what butters Halo's bread. Put Halo out as an MP only game, and it's a dead on arrival franchise that is nothing close to what it is today. In fact, it's mediocre at best. Cringe away. :)
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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

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Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

Redneck
Redneck
Since 6938 Days
People who buy Halo soleley either for sp OR mp miss so much.
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 7096 Days
People who buy Halo for MP only miss about 4hrs of something.

It just really peeves me how much hype is put into the Halo campaigns (Bungie/343/Microsoft whoever is in charge) and how they make it out to be some Heraculaen feat and an epic endeavor. But when it comes out, it's just shy of 6hrs and the story is about as memorable as anything else.

I read about 3 of the books until Halo Reach. That was the last straw. None of the characters from the books (Mainly Fall of Reach) were even in that. And none of the games have even referenced them. Whatever story you think links them together does not exist.

"The Lore" is laughable. Just because there's a lot of something doesn't make it deep, or good. Look at Star Wars. It's whatever the author puts into it, and first person shooters are a terrible storytelling method. Eric Nylund wrote the best books, and he's a talented author on his own. That's about it.

With Halo 4, this time it wouldn't bother me half as much if they didn't try to CallOfDuty-ify Multiplayer in the process. Halo was ahead of the curve on the Xbox, it didn't need to be brought into "the next generation". Do whatever you want with a campaign I'll only touch once. But don't stick your COD in my game dudebro.
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BLackHawkodst
Since 6137 Days
Posted by fabreezwait
No ones saying the story is going to be oscar winning, its just more exciting for those of us that have read all the books and are now looking forward to seeing and battling the new foes we have read so much about finally come to the screen.
Could not have put it better myself!, i love the books and the stories and could not give a flying frack! what anyone thinks about that. Halo seems to be taking it up a notch in the story telling, and i cant wait to see how it all pans out, could be the best Halo campaign yet!
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ManThatYouFear
Since 7194 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
I just think it's hilarious that people think this story is going to be shockingly good. Give me a break.
i think it's hilarious that you think we care about what you think. give me a break.
Posted by Phaethon360
People who buy Halo for MP only miss about 4hrs of something.
erm, this aint call of duty, name me 1 halo game that was 4 hours long on first play through?
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Phaethon360
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Posted by ManThatYouFear
erm, this aint call of duty, name me 1 halo game that was 4 hours long on first play through?
Halo 2.

I honestly thought that Donkey Kong with the gravity hammer was like a midboss fight or something.
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Redneck
Since 6938 Days
Halos are short indeed, but they are fun as hell.

I played all of them (excluding ODST) more than 3 times.
(Not exactly from start to finish, but its still fun to play a mission of Halo 3 every now and then)

Phaeton, you may not like sp, but I dont get why you are talking it down.
4 hours? Come on, if thats true, which I seriously doubt, then you might stop playing the game on easy.

Everyone who has played a Halo before and does not start a new Halo on at least Heroic does sth. wrong...
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Jin187
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Oh my, how dare those Halo fans get excited about a Halo game!? Let's close this thread and put and end to all this madness!
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It's longer than most FPS out there that's for sure.
Posted by Jin187
Oh my, how dare those Halo fans get excited about a Halo game!? Let's close this thread and put and end to all this madness!
LOL
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