LMAO Halo 4 Jungle scene shit all over Halo 3/Reach jungle scene.

Pls go watch the actual CUTSCENE in Halo 3 of the jungle section then the GAMEPLAY section of the jungle in Halo 4, Halo 4 is leaps better IMO and thats comparing Halo3 jungle cutscene (you know the ones that have always looked way better than the gamepaly) to Halo 4 jungle gameplay, i think your trying way to hard to be the halojizz mediator :).

go chk out the footage i said to chk out and you will see the halo 3 cutscene is worst than halo 4 gameplay.

I mean i could post these spartan ops gameplay images and tell you to go find any Halo3 gameplay pics that are close to it, screens are good but gameplay footage is always the best matrix.

What I don't get is why don't more people bring up Mass Effect 2 and 3 in the best looking games on the 360 discussion? Those games look downright amazing. I mean AMAZING!!

Whoa, phaethon, please tell me you aren't serious here? The jungle in Halo 3 is utterly destroyed by the one in Halo 4. These two games are not visually close by any stroke of the imagination. Even posting the best possible shots of Halo 3 doesn't change the reality of what you see when you're playing Halo 3. I remember playing that jungle section in Halo 3, and you could barely even know where to shoot sometimes, because it was so damn difficult to see anything. I've rarely ever done so much squinting to see something in any fps. Halo Reach, thankfully, drastically improved on that problem. I thought you were joking with your halo 3 and halo 4 comments, but it isn't even close. Halo 3's jungle is an embarrassment to the one we've seen in Halo 4.

My point exactly the halo 3 cutscene image you posted looks way better that the actual footage of the same scene, and Halo 4 footage still looks much better, actual footage comparisons show this.

Forget the screens, they are all bullshots, we know that, but when you look at the two games in motion, that's where the real separation comes. Take Spartan Ops, for example, there's a section of the mission being shown where you exit/enter a cave looking area, and it just looks so fantastic in there. A similar location in Halo 3 would suffer the same issues that the jungle section of Halo 3 did. There's a clarity in Halo 4 that is a very noticeable jump over anything in Halo 3.

Artistically, the Halo 4 bullshot definitely looks better. It looks far more atmospheric than the Halo 3 shot. What makes it a flawed comparison, though, is that you get a better shot of the Halo 3 trees. Whenever you see something remotely close to the Halo 3 shot in Halo 4, which you do in the video footage, the edge is significantly in Halo 4's favor. It has a more convincingly dense look to it. I love Halo 3 to death, but a far more fair comparison would be Reach, even though still inferior to Halo 4, but at least with Reach a good deal of the clarity issues in Halo 3 are fixed, which I think made the game more enjoyable to play.

Personally, I also think that particular section in the Halo 4 bullshot, looks even better in motion. It's the very section where the chief shot at the promethean watcher with the forerunner lightrifle, and then it ran from him. Halo 4 holds up surprisingly well to its own bullshots compared to Halo 3.

Thank god i'm not the only one seeing this :)
Right i'm off to bed.

Nah your not the only one..

I loved Halo 3 and it looked great for its day, but you are correct the Halo 4 E3 demo gameplay jungle footage looks leaps better than the Halo 3 jungle cutscene, and so it should do in 2012.

Mmmmmm those Spartan Ops bullshots look mouth watering, mind you so did the footage :)

One of my favorite parts of Halo 3 was Tsavo highway, and also the fights inside the ark, primarily because it was so much easier to see what you were shooting at. I didn't feel the opening section in the jungle worked as well as it could have, not because it wasn't a good way to start the game, but because the visibility issues really spoiled it.

I literally had to get up off my bed, and stand closer to the hdtv in some instances.

LOL, I just noticed the reversed dev logos on the two images. I don't think it's possible to mistake a Halo 3 image for a Halo 4 image :o

I really enjoyed the opening gameplay section in halo 3 it was fast and frantic.

That first little fight that took place wasn't so bad, but once you got past that initial small body of water and pushed further in, it became hell. It was so difficult to spot so many of the enemies. First time I had ever experienced such a thing in an fps, be it console or PC.

Phaethon, I'm saddened by your doubt in how much I'm obsessing over this game. Not in a million years would I have ever been fooled by a Halo 3 image masquerading as a Halo 4 image. I knew instantly which one was the Halo 4 image, and instantly which one was the Halo 3 image. I only noticed the logo switheroo well after the fact :)Here is a bit more proof that I didn't fall for it. Before I spotted the logo switch, I had already pointed out the exact location that the Halo 4 image represents. It's where the watcher was waiting until the Chief shot at it with the lightrifle. :)

I have looked at every halo 4 screen, and have watched that E3 demo more times than I'm comfortable admitting. Every released screenshot is saved to my pc, even the gameinformer stuff, and every page of the article. At this point I know them all like the back of my hand, or probably better than the back of my hand. You could take a screen from anywhere, slap a logo on it, and I would immediately know whether or not it came from Halo 4. The only one that legitimately fooled me on first glimpse was the crysis screen that you posted. It's only after you mentioned it, that it occurred to me that I had seen that before, and that it wasn't from Halo 4. And, I love Halo 3, but Halo 4 truly is a huge jump over that game.

The logos couldn't have possibly fooled me when I absolutely nailed exactly where the Halo 4 screen comes from before ever catching the logo switch. Only one of those two screens accurately fits my description, and it's the halo 4 picture with the bungie logo on it :)

And, yes, it does make Halo 3 look like shit. I mean, that's the honest to god truth. Halo Reach, much less so, but it still doesn't hold a candle to Halo 4 so far, based on what has been shown of the game.

I can't speak for anyone else, but the logos aren't what I used to identify either image. Nor did I use your bait Halo 3/Halo 4 bolded text as my guide. I looked straight at the images, knew one was clearly from Halo 3's opening, and one was from the Halo 4 SP demo at E3, and immediately realized that you were attempting a comparison between Halo 3 and Halo 4, using one of the best Halo 3 bullshots, but certainly not THE best, out there.

Even without logos, what also gives the Halo 3 image away is the art style. It's nothing remotely like the art style of the Halo 4 jungle. The differences between Halo 4 and Halo 3/Reach go beyond something as simple as an advantage in tech on the Halo 4 side. The art in Halo 4 is very different from the art shown in either Halo 3 or Reach. I personally think the art shown in Halo 4 so far is the best the series has ever seen. The best art in all of Halo 3 probably goes to the Flood Invested High Charity level of the game, where you go to rescue cortana. Even the intro to that level was beautiful. And this is not me dissing past halo games just for the sake of hyping Halo 4. Reach, too, is also a much better looking game than Halo 3 is by a pretty healthy margin.

LOL, that cat picture is hilarious. I'm guessing I'm the cat, and you're the one with the vacuum? Still, all the Halo games are fantastic, and Halo 4 won't be changing that. It's just the series heading in a new direction, and a lot of people are excited by the unknowns that come with a new developer taking the reigns, the potential possible for this game, how serious they seem to take the fiction, and that what they are showing so far looks like it's living up to what they are saying.

Which was my point i was trying to get across, image comparisons mean not much at all, i did not even bother properly looking at the images P360 was using as a comparison, as i had just finished watching the Halo 3 Arrival cutscene and opening gameplay section, then i watched the Halo 4 demo cutscene and gameplay and it completely blew it out of the water, its so much more richer and has so much more tech stuff happening.

I don't think anybody fell for it. The moment I saw your post I thought "I see what you did there". Jungle was the best looking environment in Halo 3 anyway, compare Halo 3's desert to Halo 4's, the difference is night and day.

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@ phaeton, lol at the jungle screens. You are an evil person...

But seriously, I recently played Halo3 again, it it does not look bad at all.
I think what really makes Halo4 the drastically better looking game are small touches such as fog and sunbeams shining through trees.

It ads a lot to the atmosphere!

1:58 in this video (just a glimpse)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...

IMO the best looking levels in Halo 3 were the 1st, 4th and 5th.