Jin187
Jin187
Since 6993 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
Well the point still stands. Calling it the most visually impressive anything based on a GIF is silliness. The sort of silliness that fits right into this thread ;)
Now let’s take another look at my post (and actually read it this time)…
Posted by Jin187
My word!! Just seen all this new footage and i have to say, this is shaping up to be the most visually impressive console game ever made (By some distance too!)! I dont know if it will be a masterpiece and i doubt it will be the best Halo game in the series (cant see this topping Halo 3), but it really is looking extremely impressive.
So tell me, where did I say, or even imply that my comment was based on that GIF? I think we can both agree that the silliness lies in your baseless point.
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BLackHawkodst
BLackHawkodst
Since 6135 Days
Halo 3 looked great and still does (Except the character models in the cutscenes lol), Halo Reach looked great and still does, and Halo 4 is another level above them both and up there with any of the best looking console games to date, anyone that says its just slighty better than halo 3, is blind or just trying to wind up ops :)
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7115 Days
Halo 4 looks great, probably the best Xbox 360 game up to date IMO, if not, among IT (Gears 3).
I cant mention anything other than Halo 4 and Gears 3 as best graphical games on 360.

Halo Reach looks nice, but the blurry crap (i will always hate sub-HD visuals no matter what), but the night sniper sequence was wow to me, looks very nice.
But in general it didnt look all that IMO.

Mass Effect 2 and 3 looks decent good, some parts the characters and levels looks like crap but other parts it looks wow, its random with those games.
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5956 Days
Posted by Sath
Halo 4 looks great, probably the best Xbox 360 game up to date IMO, if not, among IT (Gears 3).
I cant mention anything other than Halo 4 and Gears 3 as best graphical games on 360.

Halo Reach looks nice, but the blurry crap (i will always hate sub-HD visuals no matter what), but the night sniper sequence was wow to me, looks very nice.
But in general it didnt look all that IMO.

Mass Effect 2 and 3 looks decent good, some parts the characters and levels looks like crap but other parts it looks wow, its random with those games.
Crysis 2 shits on everything you said in this post.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7115 Days
Posted by IRAIPT0IR
Crysis 2 shits on everything you said in this post.
sub HD.
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5956 Days
Posted by Sath
sub HD.
So?
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fabreezwait
Since 5428 Days
Posted by BLackHawkodst
Halo 3 looked great and still does (Except the character models in the cutscenes lol), Halo Reach looked great and still does, and Halo 4 is another level above them both and up there with any of the best looking console games to date, anyone that says its just slighty better than halo 3, is blind or just trying to wind up ops :)
Agree.
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5956 Days
Posted by BLackHawkodst
Halo 3 looked great and still does (Except the character models in the cutscenes lol), Halo Reach looked great and still does, and Halo 4 is another level above them both and up there with any of the best looking console games to date, anyone that says its just slighty better than halo 3, is blind or just trying to wind up ops :)
Or anyone that is so sure of this is having Fanboy googles?
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7115 Days
Posted by IRAIPT0IR
So?
i dont like blurry crap sub HD visuals.
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5956 Days
Posted by Sath
i dont like blurry crap sub HD visuals.
Pure PC master race 1080p for the win!!!
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7115 Days
Posted by IRAIPT0IR
Pure PC master race 1080p for the win!!!
LOL

Come on next gen console, devs has to make ALL games 720p native or they can go to hell.
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BLackHawkodst
BLackHawkodst
Since 6135 Days
Posted by IRAIPT0IR
Or anyone that is so sure of this is having Fanboy googles?
LMAO no one has more bigger fan googles than you!, so i guess you would know lol.
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5956 Days
Posted by BLackHawkodst
LMAO no one has more bigger fan googles than you!, so i guess you would know lol.
So you agree then? cool.
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BLackHawkodst
BLackHawkodst
Since 6135 Days
Yes i agree no one has bigger hyperboleness than you.. :)
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sanex
Since 5436 Days
Posted by BLackHawkodst
Halo 3 looked great and still does (Except the character models in the cutscenes lol), Halo Reach looked great and still does, and Halo 4 is another level above them both and up there with any of the best looking console games to date, anyone that says its just slighty better than halo 3, is blind or just trying to wind up ops :)
Well of course if more than just slightly better!, i mean have you seen the footage.. come on lol
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5956 Days
Posted by BLackHawkodst
Yes i agree no one has bigger hyperboleness than you.. :)
We already agreed that Optimus has more than me, by you saying that I would know if someone has fanboy googles on because Im full of hyperbole you are agreeing that it could be the case that someone that thinks that this one is leaps better looking is a fanboy.

Semantics I know but is all possible up in here.
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BLackHawkodst
BLackHawkodst
Since 6135 Days
Yes Mr Raptor it COULD be, but its not the case in this instance as the footage proves all.
Posted by sanex
Well of course if more than just slightly better!, i mean have you seen the footage.. come on lol
Yes i know its more than slighty better, thats what i said in my post!
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5956 Days
Anyway if my opinion is worth a damn I do think is way better looking.
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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 7140 Days
Posted by Phaethon360
For as many posts as Optimus made on this very forum defending that Halo 3 looked better in person on his TV than it did in footage I am surprised to see him call it shit now.

No two games on the same console this gen have had a graphical leap as big as you are making this one out.

The most striking differences in Halo 4 are the animations. Bungie used keyframing and 343 is using a shit ton of mocap. That's not a graphical difference.



That's funny you say that, because I haven't seen any direct feed of that desert. Have you seen any? And I really didn't think the jungle was the best environment. Tsavo highway was probably my favorite.
I think it looks damn good when you're playing it, but it was still tough to see where the hell to shoot in that jungle at the start of the game. It was the most annoying level of the game for me by far. However, the issue at hand wasn't whether or not Halo 3 looked good or not, because it does in its own way. The main topic at hand was that Halo 3, compared to Halo 4, really does lag behind by a significant bit. I've never been all that big on graphics to begin with, and am able to play and enjoy most any good game, regardless of how dated the graphics might be. I've criticized Halo 3 many times on here well before we ever got footage of Halo 4. I've been criticizing Halo 3 for what I think it did wrong for years before even the release of Reach. if you don't believe me, just check out what I was saying about Halo 3 after playing COD4 :P

Does this mean I didn't love Halo 3? Absolutely not. It remains one of my favorite games, it just doesn't stack up very well graphically to Halo 4. When you compare the two, Halo 3 by comparison, on the same console, does look bad. But then why shouldn't it? The game will be like 5 years older than Halo 4 come this November. Halo 3 is a game that holds up well graphically on its own merits, as a self contained gaming experience, and that's why I defended it as such, especially when you factor in how much larger the battles in Halo 3 are compared to a lot of games out there. However, when you talk about a direct comparison to Halo 4, yet another Halo game, and one that is expected to also have large battles, then it just doesn't seem to be holding up very well in a comparison at all. Halo 3 also clearly lags behind Reach, so it's crazy to think that it would measure up to Halo 4, which honestly looks better than both. However, in Reach's case, at least it does itself more favors in comparison to Halo 4 than is the case for Halo 3.
No two games on the same console this gen have had a graphical leap as big as you are making this one out.
Forza Motorsport 2 to Forza Motorsport 4...
COD 2 to COD4.
Halo 3 to Halo 4.

Come on, that was too easy. :P

I also personally think there was a big jump between the first and second Uncharted.
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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

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GriftGFX
Since 7248 Days
Posted by Optimusv2
Come on, that was too easy. :P
So you're admitting it's not a big leap now?
Posted by Optimusv2
if you don't believe me, just check out what I was saying about Halo 3 after playing COD4 :P
Blech. I love COD4 but there's not a thing about it Halo should be doing.
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Raptor your opinion is always worth a damn :)

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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5956 Days
Oh my....


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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 7140 Days
Hehe, don't worry, my complaints about Halo 3 in comparison to COD4, had nothing to do with gameplay, Grift, and pretty much everything to do with presentation and production value, particularly cutscenes. I thought COD4, due to stronger production values, came off feeling like a more epic game than Halo 3. The cutscenes were one of my biggest complaints about Halo 3. I thought it was embarrassing the way johnson and miranda keyes' deaths were handled. I felt that for a game as important as Halo 3 was suppose to be, that the cutscenes should have been handled with far more care than they were. There were a number of little touches about COD4 that made the experience that much better, even if some of them were scripted. Halo 4 seems to be incorporating such cool touches (talking about singleplayer experience here), but seem to be doing it while keeping the sandbox gameplay intact. Even without those things, Halo Reach showcased major improvements in a number of areas over Halo 3, so this isn't just a Halo 4 vs Halo 3 deal.

Grift, any idiot can see the gap between Halo 3 and Halo 4. Go ahead and watch footage of Halo 3 and then compare it to Halo 4 footage. Or, better yet, just go pop Halo 3 into your 360 and play that, then go look at Halo 4 on your 360 through the gameplay videos available. If after that, you still come away saying that there isn't a big leap between the two, then we probably need to re-evaluate if it's people such as myself who are having trouble being objective on this matter, or if people are so committed to Bungie, that they can't admit that Bungie are simply being outdone in key areas by 343. 343 were suppose to be an incredibly talented team, and it's really showing.

I've pointed this bungie comment out before, but people seem to be ignoring it. Bungie themselves have even admitted that their games were grossly underutilizing the 360's CPU. For a team with as much resources as Bungie had, and for a gaming franchise as big as Halo, isn't there something a little wrong with that picture? Microsoft's biggest first party developer, and after 3 full games on the Xbox 360, they came away still saying their games didn't use the console's CPU properly? So you see, it isn't like what people are saying about Halo 4 compared to previous Halo games has no foundation. Bungie themselves more or less admit that their games didn't even use the 360's cpu properly, and by a significant degree, too, from the sounds of it.

http://www.oxm.co.uk/37355/bungie-halo-games-gross...
"We found out that even for Xbox 360, we were grossly under-utilizing the CPU, mostly due to our multi-threading design that doesn't allow us to spread the work and execute them in parallel," Chen admitted. "So we redid the whole architecture in the new engine.

"An even bigger challenge is to future proof the engine so when the next generation of consoles is here, we are already pretty good at squeezing the performance out of it. For example, we want the ability to have a particle system to run on the GPU for the 360, SPU on the PS3, and compute shaders on the future hardware, and this requires good design up front."

The engine will also allow for closer collaboration between programmers and artists. "In the new engine, we place even more emphasis on giving artists direct control over how the game appears, and the majority of our R&D time was spent making technology that makes artist work more efficiently while lowering the technical requirements.
That greater control for artists, considering the improved art in Halo 4, and the amount of content they have to work with in Spartan Ops, would seem like something 343 are doing a very good job of. How else could they apparently have so much unique content for Spartan Ops that doesn't appear in the sp campaign?

Some may be afraid to admit it, but there is a damn big leap between Halo 3 and Halo 4. Nothing to do with fanboyism, because they are both exclusives on the same damn console. What exactly would a person be a fanboy of? Xbox fanboy? Halo fanboy? Of those two, I would qualify more as a Halo fanboy, but if saying Halo 4 looks far better than Halo 3 makes me a fanboy, then I embrace the label. I'll glady be king of the fanboys :)

And don't tell me that you don't think there's a huge gap between Forza Motorsport 2 and Forza 4, after the way so many people literally tore forza 2 a new a hole on this very forum? :P
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Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

fabreezwait
Since 5428 Days
Yep no doubt theres a big leap, its very plain to see.
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Redneck
Redneck
Since 6936 Days
I hope that 343 is able to maintain a consistancy in good graphics throughout the entire campaign.

While some missions and parts in Halo 3 looked and still look very good (the jungle or tsavo highway) other parts of the game looked shamefully bad.
Especially the very last part of the game, when riding the Warthog. The lighting is shit, theres absolutely no environmental detail and so on.

Another thing that bothered me in Halo 3 and Reach are the pop ups of details.
You can literally see the grass (and other small details) growing around you.
Everything further away than 50 meters looks very dull.

I hope they address this in Halo 4!
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