Halo 4 Thread.

Since 7104 Days

Posted by Redneck

@ Grift
The wall hack isnt very useful at all.
It forces you to play very slow, since distant enemies dont show up immediatly, 'cause your kind of scanning the your environment instead of hacking walls; and it messes up your orientation imo. You dont really know whats in front or behind of what...
Plus you can see if an enemy uses it. Your radar shows how a 'wall-hack-wave' spreads.
So you actually know when the camper can see you.

If you want to bitch about armor abilities, then bitch about the regenerator. Truly shitty stuff. It is barely used because it unlocks at level 40 or so, but give the game another few weeks and every asshole will be using it.
I say asshole, because it really is an asshole ability. The kind of armor lock...

Promethean vision is definitely useful. It's the only ability I use and my stats are amazing. Regenerator isn't as bad as you're making it since anyone can walk in that bubble, and many retreat from it because they don't want to die. It makes you a prime target, and once you get routed out it's fair game to the other team.

Definitely the most fun I've had with Halo MP this early on. I would argue though that it's mainly in part to the maps not being designed by the blind. Balance is going to be a big issue somewhere down the line. But their biggest challenge is fixing matchmaking. Hopping into a match that's already going on when you're down 3 players is NOT good. It's like Bungie patented good matchmaking or something.

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[quote=Redneck]@ Grift
The wall hack isnt very useful at all.
It forces you to play very slow, since distant enemies dont show up immediatly, 'cause your kind of scanning the your environment instead of hacking walls; and it messes up your orientation imo. You dont really know whats in front or behind of what...
Plus you can see if an enemy uses it. Your radar shows how a 'wall-hack-wave' spreads.
So you actually know when the camper can see you.

If you want to bitch about armor abilities, then bitch about the regenerator. Truly shitty stuff. It is barely used because it unlocks at level 40 or so, but give the game another few weeks and every asshole will be using it.
I say asshole, because it really is an asshole ability. The kind of armor lock...[/quote]

Promethean vision is definitely useful. It's the only ability I use and my stats are amazing. Regenerator isn't as bad as you're making it since anyone can walk in that bubble, and many retreat from it because they don't want to die. It makes you a prime target, and once you get routed out it's fair game to the other team.

Definitely the most fun I've had with Halo MP this early on. I would argue though that it's mainly in part to the maps not being designed by the blind. Balance is going to be a big issue somewhere down the line. But their biggest challenge is fixing matchmaking. Hopping into a match that's already going on when you're down 3 players is NOT good. It's like Bungie patented good matchmaking or something.

GriftGFX

Since 7259 Days

Well, after six campaign missions I'm finding that portion of the game to be a bit of a mixed bag personally. It's certainly not a bad game, but I find that it starts to drag a bit towards the middle. Those sparse bits of action connected by all too slow and all too automated travel. There's a bit too much corridor and platform nonsense and not enough open level design as well. I've yet to really be struct by a sense of scale in Halo 4. To top it off, you're mostly stuck with the game's worst weapons throughout large portions of it. But it's a relatively solid first person shooter. From a strictly gameplay oriented point of view, it's not my favorite Halo campaign though, that's for sure.

I don't think I've really enjoyed using a single Promethean weapon either.

I'll dive into multiplayer tomorrow. The unlock structure and other call-of-dutyisms don't excite me very much, but I'm sure I'll have some fun. DMR+Magnum+wallhack are easy to see working well early. Especially since so many of the other AA's seem pretty dull at first glance.

I really like the DMR and pistol.

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Well, after six campaign missions I'm finding that portion of the game to be a bit of a mixed bag personally. It's certainly not a bad game, but I find that it starts to drag a bit towards the middle. Those sparse bits of action connected by all too slow and all too automated travel. There's a bit too much corridor and platform nonsense and not enough open level design as well. I've yet to really be struct by a sense of scale in Halo 4. To top it off, you're mostly stuck with the game's worst weapons throughout large portions of it. But it's a relatively solid first person shooter. From a strictly gameplay oriented point of view, it's not my favorite Halo campaign though, that's for sure.

I don't think I've really enjoyed using a single Promethean weapon either.

I'll dive into multiplayer tomorrow. The unlock structure and other call-of-dutyisms don't excite me very much, but I'm sure I'll have some fun. DMR+Magnum+wallhack are easy to see working well early. Especially since so many of the other AA's seem pretty dull at first glance.

I really like the DMR and pistol.

Ronsauce

Since 7244 Days

Posted by GriftGFX

I'll dive into multiplayer tomorrow. The unlock structure and other call-of-dutyisms don't excite me very much, but I'm sure I'll have some fun. DMR+Magnum+wallhack are easy to see working well early. Especially since so many of the other AA's seem pretty dull at first glance.

I absolutely love using the thruster pack. It's so fun and handy to avoid nades, sword lunges, shotty blasts, vehicles, or just to get into cover. I wish it was an inherent Master Chief ability in the SP, or at least available earlier and more often.

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Phaethon360

Since 7104 Days

I don't disagree. Gameplay definitely seemed better to me, but being stuck inside Forerunner buildings didn't get me excited. It's hard imagining trying to traverse the levels with 4 players without knocking someone off in some cases. Spartan Ops does have more areas familiar to Halo, but it re-uses the maps from the one open outdoor campaign mission.

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docLEXfisti

Since 7377 Days

I was punctual on TUE 9am sharp to get the Halo Xbox bundle. The old 360s is off to the living room to be used for the kids' kinect-sessions on weekends - if they're behaving of course.

And the graphics are out of this world. I'm playing a lot of PC in the last months and the xbox never came close like with this game. 343 are incredibly talented ... and the storytelling already has more impact on me than all other Halo's combined.

Playing it on Heroic and I have to admit that it's not that easy ... but I'm loving every minute of it ... also get to like the music more, though it's stripped of it's theme which is actually the only thing that makes me sad ...

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the only tyrant I accept is my inner voice [and my two kids ;)]

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docLEXfisti

Since 7377 Days

by the way, the controllers with the advanced D-Pad and the blue Guide button lights are very kewl, the console is also ace-looking and the disc-drive seems a bit more silent. But the start-up and disc-tray sounds are already bothering me ... is there any way to patch em back to the old sounds? hehehehe ...

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the only tyrant I accept is my inner voice [and my two kids ;)]

ultimate gamers threat: "Watch it, or I'll spoil you all!"

GriftGFX

Since 7259 Days

Another complaint: The control schemes in this game are terrible. I'm going to use default since they've killed off anything resembling Halo 3 or Reach.

Posted by Phaethon360

Gameplay definitely seemed better to me, but being stuck inside Forerunner buildings didn't get me excited.

I'm not really getting that, and I wonder if you will when the novelty of it wears off. You spend a big chunk of the campaign with awful weapons (really, they're some of the worst Halo weapons ever), plodding through corridors, or worse yet, viewing a rather boring set piece on the back of an elephant whilst moving at about 5mph. None of that amounts to "better gameplay" to me. The laser targeting bits are some of the most uninspired and uninteractive bits of campaign design I've seen in some time.

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Phaethon360

Since 7104 Days

The control schemes are terrible. I'm plodding through Recon because I don't know how else to play Halo at this point. Sprinting was nice, but it threw off the whole damn controller dynamic.

Some of the worst Halo weapons ever? Binary Rifle, Scattershot and Light Rifle are beasts. Only Promethean weapon I detested was the Bolt pistol and that was because I didn't know it could fire a charged shot like a shotgun until MP.

This is the best the Assault Rifle has been since Halo 1, and given that I've had that on virtually every mission in the game I was never conflicted. And I don't think the idea was to stay on the Mammoth. They kept telling me to get off and kill something whist wearing a jetpack. Levels may be spotty but the enemies and weapons make this game. Having just replayed Halo 3 a few weeks ago I didn't even want to go back to Reach, so I'm definitely sure the gameplay is better.

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GriftGFX

Since 7259 Days

Yea I can't say I agree. I'm sticking to Promethean weapons being awful and that's a fine example of the game's poor pacing. Especially in co-op. I really don't think the enemy encounters are better either. I'm just not seeing the "better" bits at all. Heck, the new Covy weapons aren't very good. The BR even sorta sucks compared to previous versions (and this games DMR). This mostly annoys me because I expected the campaign to hold this game up for me.

This is strictly concerning campaign and co-op gameplay. This game is *actually* about its fancy narrative. That stuff is handled really well. Even if 343's idea of a cool rampancy story is listening to Cortana talk about her emo feelings.

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Redneck

Since 6946 Days

I actually find the campaign also kind of boring.

Yes, the gameplay-mechanics are still good old and fun Halo and the story telling is nothing short of awesome, but the missions themselves...meh...

The mission where you fly the pelican is exactly like the mission from Reach where you fly the Falcon from objective to objective, which was exactly like the mission in Halo 2, where you fly a banshee fron objective to objective.

Other stale stuff is the pressing/overheating of (mostly) three buttons/cores to move on to the next room.

There was also a part where you float on some platform. The architecture of the platform and this part of the game in general was like copy pasted from Halo2 (Halo Delta as well)

I have not finished the game yet, but up to now, my favorite mission is mission7, where you fight against covies exclusively. Kind of gives me the feeling that I dont like fighting Promethians so much.

SP in general is very fun, but I just hope that the mission design evolves in Halo 5. Maybe they can realize better ideas with more hardware-power?!
I doubt it though....

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I actually find the campaign also kind of boring.

Yes, the gameplay-mechanics are still good old and fun Halo and the story telling is nothing short of awesome, but the missions themselves...meh...

The mission where you fly the pelican is exactly like the mission from Reach where you fly the Falcon from objective to objective, which was exactly like the mission in Halo 2, where you fly a banshee fron objective to objective.

Other stale stuff is the pressing/overheating of (mostly) three buttons/cores to move on to the next room.

There was also a part where you float on some platform. The architecture of the platform and this part of the game in general was like copy pasted from Halo2 (Halo Delta as well)

I have not finished the game yet, but up to now, my favorite mission is mission7, where you fight against covies exclusively. Kind of gives me the feeling that I dont like fighting Promethians so much.

SP in general is very fun, but I just hope that the mission design evolves in Halo 5. Maybe they can realize better ideas with more hardware-power?!
I doubt it though....

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Acert93

Since 7230 Days

Posted by Phaethon360

Just finished the campaign. Some great firefights, some frustrating mini-games. But overall very enjoyable. The best way to describe it is that its best moments are the best of the franchise, and it's worst are disappointing, but not overly so. Even though there was one plot element that came out of left field to me, the ending felt very satisfying. Well written if nothing else.

I just hope that the Didact STAYS DEAD. Gettin real tired of yo shit space aliens!

Played about an hour or so of Multiplayer. Holy shit. All those complaints that it was becoming more COD like were completely founded, but I enjoyed pwning those noobs with gusto. Loadouts just give me the unfair advantage that I deserve :3. Promethean Vision takes away all elements of surprise and makes you my bitch! LOVE IT! Also, I played 3-4 different maps tonight and I felt that all of them had great design. No getting lost or separated from your squad. No uneven choke points. Just good terrain all around. As long as you don't mind being on the receiving end of a supreme ass whooping from me, you'll love this multiplayer ;).

I agree for the most part, except the Diadact part. My more detailed comments are at B3D but the SP is pure awesome IMO. Great presentation, solid story and writing, etc. A bit of the "lets just push buttons!" gameplay objectives, but oh well. I LIKE the return to LARGE sandboxes where you can split up. I replayed the campaign in coop last night and 2 players on Heroic was a blast.

MP so far is the best yet IMO. They fixed the AR--343i deserves a lot of credit there. A DMR/BR will not beat an AR up close any more. Like the loadouts and whatnot. Still Halo but the ability to sprint AND have an AA is great. No major out of balance issues or crap weapons (Bungie always had a knack for 1 or 2 "must ahve" weapons and some totally useless ones).

I am VERY Happy with Halo 4.

Oh, and visually 343i did an exceptional job. One area of concern is they should have color coded the Premethians (Yellow, Red, Blue, etc) to denote class. Bungie did a GOOD job in Reach in making various rank structures. I missed this element.

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[quote=Phaethon360]Just finished the campaign. Some great firefights, some frustrating mini-games. But overall very enjoyable. The best way to describe it is that its best moments are the best of the franchise, and it's worst are disappointing, but not overly so. Even though there was one plot element that came out of left field to me, the ending felt very satisfying. Well written if nothing else.

I just hope [spoiler]that the Didact STAYS DEAD.[/spoiler] Gettin real tired of yo shit space aliens!

Played about an hour or so of Multiplayer. Holy shit. All those complaints that it was becoming more COD like were completely founded, but I enjoyed pwning those noobs with gusto. Loadouts just give me the unfair advantage that I deserve :3. Promethean Vision takes away all elements of surprise and makes you my bitch! LOVE IT! Also, I played 3-4 different maps tonight and I felt that all of them had great design. No getting lost or separated from your squad. No uneven choke points. Just good terrain all around. As long as you don't mind being on the receiving end of a supreme ass whooping from me, you'll love this multiplayer ;).[/quote]

I agree for the most part, except the Diadact part. My more detailed comments are at B3D but the SP is pure awesome IMO. Great presentation, solid story and writing, etc. A bit of the "lets just push buttons!" gameplay objectives, but oh well. I LIKE the return to LARGE sandboxes where you can split up. I replayed the campaign in coop last night and 2 players on Heroic was a blast.

MP so far is the best yet IMO. They fixed the AR--343i deserves a lot of credit there. A DMR/BR will not beat an AR up close any more. Like the loadouts and whatnot. Still Halo but the ability to sprint AND have an AA is great. No major out of balance issues or crap weapons (Bungie always had a knack for 1 or 2 "must ahve" weapons and some totally useless ones).

I am VERY Happy with Halo 4.

Oh, and visually 343i did an exceptional job. One area of concern is they should have color coded the Premethians (Yellow, Red, Blue, etc) to denote class. Bungie did a GOOD job in Reach in making various rank structures. I missed this element.

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Acert93

Since 7230 Days

Hey Pants hit me up for some games when you get a chance. I think we will have fun destroying noobs.

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fabreezwait

Since 5438 Days

Posted by Acert93

I agree for the most part, except the Diadact part. My more detailed comments are at B3D but the SP is pure awesome IMO. Great presentation, solid story and writing, etc. A bit of the "lets just push buttons!" gameplay objectives, but oh well. I LIKE the return to LARGE sandboxes where you can split up. I replayed the campaign in coop last night and 2 players on Heroic was a blast.

MP so far is the best yet IMO. They fixed the AR--343i deserves a lot of credit there. A DMR/BR will not beat an AR up close any more. Like the loadouts and whatnot. Still Halo but the ability to sprint AND have an AA is great. No major out of balance issues or crap weapons (Bungie always had a knack for 1 or 2 "must ahve" weapons and some totally useless ones).

I am VERY Happy with Halo 4.

Oh, and visually 343i did an exceptional job. One area of concern is they should have color coded the Premethians (Yellow, Red, Blue, etc) to denote class. Bungie did a GOOD job in Reach in making various rank structures. I missed this element.

Yeah i also thought the presentation / story and writing were great, and the gameplay is so much fun, co-op is a blast also.

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[quote=Acert93]

I agree for the most part, except the Diadact part. My more detailed comments are at B3D but the SP is pure awesome IMO. Great presentation, solid story and writing, etc. A bit of the "lets just push buttons!" gameplay objectives, but oh well. I LIKE the return to LARGE sandboxes where you can split up. I replayed the campaign in coop last night and 2 players on Heroic was a blast.

MP so far is the best yet IMO. They fixed the AR--343i deserves a lot of credit there. A DMR/BR will not beat an AR up close any more. Like the loadouts and whatnot. Still Halo but the ability to sprint AND have an AA is great. No major out of balance issues or crap weapons (Bungie always had a knack for 1 or 2 "must ahve" weapons and some totally useless ones).

I am VERY Happy with Halo 4.

Oh, and visually 343i did an exceptional job. One area of concern is they should have color coded the Premethians (Yellow, Red, Blue, etc) to denote class. Bungie did a GOOD job in Reach in making various rank structures. I missed this element.[/quote]

Yeah i also thought the presentation / story and writing were great, and the gameplay is so much fun, co-op is a blast also.

Acert93

Since 7230 Days

The game would be better if Pants would play with me instead of bailing for the goofball brigade. Oh well, I think Mr. Phaethon saw my Waypoint stats and is afraid of getting pwn'd and would need to swap sigs.

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GriftGFX

Since 7259 Days

Posted by Acert93

The game would be better if Pants would play with me instead of bailing for the goofball brigade. Oh well, I think Mr. Phaethon saw my Waypoint stats and is afraid of getting pwn'd and would need to swap sigs.

Or maybe if you weren't too good to play with us it wouldn't matter.

Pants leads the goofball brigade. He's the loudest and most obnoxious motherfucker in the group.. until Vehemence shows up. It was actually a little jarring for me. As soon as I started playing, Phaethon was immediately on my nuts. He's pretty calm and reserved when he plays with my clan, so I did not know he was going to revert to an Xbox Live state of mind. Maybe it's the other people we play with.. couldn't tell ya.

You literally dipped in for 20 seconds and then bailed. We were talking about a funny thing on the news. Sorry if we offended you. :|

My first night was a bit rough. I felt pretty behind the unlock curve. Pretty awesome to feel that in a Halo game for the first time. The only map I think I know so far is Haven, and it's no coincidence that it's the only map I've been able to really enjoy so far. I don't like the levels in big team, but it may change once I know them better.

I played a few objective types too and was actually finding that a bit better. Infinity injects entirely too much random into the game for my liking. Especially on BTB. The game becomes awash in power weapons. It's a bit annoying the unconfirmed.

I'm going to do a bit of exploring on the BTB maps especially. Want classic playlists yesterday. I think it's funny that everyone was all, "there will be classic playlists! you don't have to play infinity!" etc.. and then the game ships without any classic slayer playlists :|

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[quote=Acert93]The game would be better if Pants would play with me instead of bailing for the goofball brigade. Oh well, I think Mr. Phaethon saw my Waypoint stats and is afraid of getting pwn'd and would need to swap sigs.[/quote]

Or maybe if you weren't too good to play with us it wouldn't matter.

Pants leads the goofball brigade. He's the loudest and most obnoxious motherfucker in the group.. until Vehemence shows up. It was actually a little jarring for me. As soon as I started playing, Phaethon was immediately on my nuts. He's pretty calm and reserved when he plays with my clan, so I did not know he was going to revert to an Xbox Live state of mind. Maybe it's the other people we play with.. couldn't tell ya.

You literally dipped in for 20 seconds and then bailed. We were talking about a funny thing on the news. Sorry if we offended you. :|

My first night was a bit rough. I felt pretty behind the unlock curve. Pretty awesome to feel that in a Halo game for the first time. The only map I think I know so far is Haven, and it's no coincidence that it's the only map I've been able to [i]really[/i] enjoy so far. I don't like the levels in big team, but it may change once I know them better.

I played a few objective types too and was actually finding that a bit better. Infinity injects entirely too much random into the game for my liking. Especially on BTB. The game becomes awash in power weapons. It's a bit annoying the unconfirmed.

I'm going to do a bit of exploring on the BTB maps especially. Want classic playlists [i]yesterday[/i]. I think it's funny that everyone was all, "there will be classic playlists! you don't have to play infinity!" etc.. and then the game ships without any classic slayer playlists :|

Acert93

Since 7230 Days

I bailed because there was too much smoke in the room :|

Just giving you a hard time. Lobbies with a ton of people yapping loudly and "Xbox live style" isn't really my cup of tea. I am an old PC fart, I like to coordinate and discuss the game. Some small chit chat is ok but now that I only have one ear for hearing the really rambunctious lobbies grate.

That being said once you warm up and get a 2:1 KDR you and Pants need to come hang with me.

Oh, and the unlocks are overrated. I am now like lvl 20 but the unlocks haven't made much of a difference. It is nice to reload faster and a little quicker shield recharge but those are not game changers. Starting with Plasma nades IS a big deal, but anyone can unlock that after 1hr of play.

Ps- I wish I had had saved the game file, I was on Vallhalah this morning and me and a friend were heading from the Mt. Base to the center. My friend took the creek route and I went toward the center of the hill. I took out a couple guys just before the crest of the hill. One of the dudes dropped a spartan laser so I picked it and saw on my wall-hack there was a fully loaded hog coming from the ocean base. I sprinted to the side of the cliff while charging but they past under me so I did a 180 in the air and blew it up for a triple kill. My friend who was in the creek was in the path of the hog in the creek and saw this all happened. That went over nicely in party chat ;)

I find I really like to flip the vision on and off to get a quick idea of where people are so I can get a jump on them.

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I bailed because there was too much smoke in the room :|

Just giving you a hard time. Lobbies with a ton of people yapping loudly and "Xbox live style" isn't really my cup of tea. I am an old PC fart, I like to coordinate and discuss the game. Some small chit chat is ok but now that I only have one ear for hearing the really rambunctious lobbies grate.

That being said once you warm up and get a 2:1 KDR you and Pants need to come hang with me.

Oh, and the unlocks are overrated. I am now like lvl 20 but the unlocks haven't made much of a difference. It is nice to reload faster and a little quicker shield recharge but those are not game changers. Starting with Plasma nades IS a big deal, but anyone can unlock that after 1hr of play.

Ps- I wish I had had saved the game file, I was on Vallhalah this morning and me and a friend were heading from the Mt. Base to the center. My friend took the creek route and I went toward the center of the hill. I took out a couple guys just before the crest of the hill. One of the dudes dropped a spartan laser so I picked it and saw on my wall-hack there was a fully loaded hog coming from the ocean base. I sprinted to the side of the cliff while charging but they past under me so I did a 180 in the air and blew it up for a triple kill. My friend who was in the creek was in the path of the hog in the creek and saw this all happened. That went over nicely in party chat ;)

I find I really like to flip the vision on and off to get a quick idea of where people are so I can get a jump on them.

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GriftGFX

Since 7259 Days

Posted by Acert93

Lobbies with a ton of people yapping loudly and "Xbox live style" isn't really my cup of tea. I am an old PC fart, I like to coordinate and discuss the game. Some small chit chat is ok but now that I only have one ear for hearing the really rambunctious lobbies grate.

Not really mine either. They kept asking me why I was so quiet last night. Mostly because you're all too fucking loud.

Posted by Acert93

Oh, and the unlocks are overrated. I am now like lvl 20 but the unlocks haven't made much of a difference. It is nice to reload faster and a little quicker shield recharge but those are not game changers. Starting with Plasma nades IS a big deal, but anyone can unlock that after 1hr of play.

I have to continue to disagree. I think it's fundamentally bad game design. Heck, the two perks you chose to gloss over both alter game balance. You can say that it's insignificant, but if that's the case, then why is it there at all?

I also hate infinity. Phaethon like's to argue against "weapon camping" in previous Halos. So what we're doing is replacing strategy and tactics with randomness. Neat-o. Plus, the ability to see item markers on the 3D HUD is like an extra (I think we're up to 3) wallhack. You can now camp weapon locations without even looking at them. That's not for me either. Any of it.

I can't imagine sticking to this game for too long. It is rife with Call of Duty-isms. Even the people defending them aren't denying that. I'm mostly here to meet up with some old Halo buddies.

Posted by Acert93

That being said once you warm up and get a 2:1 KDR you and Pants need to come hang with me.

Alrighty. It may take me a few extra nights to catch up in unlocks. And ya know, hone my skills, since I don't cheat like some people ;)

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[quote=Acert93]Lobbies with a ton of people yapping loudly and "Xbox live style" isn't really my cup of tea. I am an old PC fart, I like to coordinate and discuss the game. Some small chit chat is ok but now that I only have one ear for hearing the really rambunctious lobbies grate.[/quote]

Not really mine either. They kept asking me why I was so quiet last night. Mostly because you're all too fucking loud.

[quote=Acert93]Oh, and the unlocks are overrated. I am now like lvl 20 but the unlocks haven't made much of a difference. It is nice to reload faster and a little quicker shield recharge but those are not game changers. Starting with Plasma nades IS a big deal, but anyone can unlock that after 1hr of play.[/quote]

I have to continue to disagree. I think it's fundamentally bad game design. Heck, the two perks you chose to gloss over both alter game balance. You can say that it's insignificant, but if that's the case, then why is it there at all?

I also hate infinity. Phaethon like's to argue against "weapon camping" in previous Halos. So what we're doing is replacing strategy and tactics with randomness. Neat-o. Plus, the ability to see item markers on the 3D HUD is like an extra (I think we're up to 3) wallhack. You can now camp weapon locations without even looking at them. That's not for me either. Any of it.

I can't imagine sticking to this game for too long. It is rife with Call of Duty-isms. Even the people defending them aren't denying that. I'm mostly here to meet up with some old Halo buddies.

[quote=Acert93]That being said once you warm up and get a 2:1 KDR you and Pants need to come hang with me.[/quote]

Alrighty. It may take me a few extra nights to catch up in unlocks. And ya know, hone my skills, since I don't cheat like some people ;)

GriftGFX

Since 7259 Days

so I picked it and saw on my wall-hack there was a fully loaded hog coming from the ocean base. I sprinted to the side of the cliff while charging but they past under me so I did a 180 in the air and blew it up for a triple kill. My friend who was in the creek was in the path of the hog in the creek and saw this all happened.

It's funny because to me that whole scenario sounds like bullshit. :D Yay wallhack.

I think it's amusing when people try to explain to me their rationalization for the wallhack. It usually starts off with a description of why it's fair and then ventures into how awesome it is to abuse it.

Cake. Eat it too. Etc.

The wallhack alone was enough to make me quit Blacklight Retribution after a single session. I'm giving Halo a lot of leeway.

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Acert93

Since 7230 Days

You are on a roll. Next:

Radar -- Cheating since 2001.

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Phaethon360

Since 7104 Days

Actually he already has.

Oh and don't show Grift this, guys. He will flip!

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GriftGFX

Since 7259 Days

I will flip because it is awesome.

Posted by Acert93

You are on a roll. Next:

Radar -- Cheating since 2001.

I was counting that as one of the game's three wallhacks ;) Especially with the ability to extend its range. I mean, come on...

I wish you guys (Phaethon) would play some different gametypes. Everyone gave up on CTF almost instantly. It's sad.

Big Team Infinity blows. Little Team Infinity is somewhat better. I like Slayer Pro (much more) but you all freaked out without radar.

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ManThatYouFear

Since 7202 Days

I would be using the mark 6 Armour, but alas i'm one of many who got fucked over and have to do it again..

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ManThatYouFear

Since 7202 Days

My little boy and his mates had a late night on halo 4 other night, they borrowed my account for live..

my kill death went through the floor currently trying to pull back :(

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Redneck

Since 6946 Days

My problem with this game is that the grenades are simply too weak.

Breaks Halo's formula.

Instead of throwing grenades, you're almost in every situation better advised to stick to your primary gun and keep shooting, which makes the game like every other fps...

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Phaethon360

Since 7104 Days

Posted by Redneck

My problem with this game is that the grenades are simply too weak.

Breaks Halo's formula.

Instead of throwing grenades, you're almost in every situation better advised to stick to your primary gun and keep shooting, which makes the game like every other fps...

Agreed.

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