alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 7169 Days
Ok, ninja gaiden 2 is CHEAP ... I just met the famous 5-6 rocket-launching-at-the-same-time-b******

MY GOD! what was Itagaki thinking for crying out loud ??? I am playing on warrior and it's just FRUSTRATING ......
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ACEfromRussia
ACEfromRussia
Since 6795 Days
LOL
I think u really played Ass Creed and Devil May Shit 4 too often
Warrior dif is easyer for me than NGB was

May be U should play Acolyte or Ninja dog?
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GriftGFX
Since 7239 Days
Posted by ACEfromRussia
LOL
I think u really played Ass Creed and Devil May Shit 4 too often
Warrior dif is easyer for me than NGB was

May be U should play Acolyte or Ninja dog?
Or maybe Team Ninja's approach to difficulty is purposefully designed to piss people off, because that's the only way that hack Itagaki can get through life without feeling inferior to the masses of game developers he's surrounded himself with. Seriously, give it a rest--we know--Ninja Gaiden is easy as pie if you're "good" (ie. Lucky) and it's got some of the best AI and difficulty design in the biz.

LOL indeed.
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ACEfromRussia
ACEfromRussia
Since 6795 Days
This is game for hardcore gamers, not casuals
I feel happy, playing such type of games
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 7224 Days
Posted by ACEfromRussia
This is game for hardcore gamers, not casuals
I feel happy, playing such type of games
The fact that it's for hardcore gamers doesn't negate the fact that the game more often than not resorts to being cheap to create the difficulty. Enemies that can grab you from 15 feet away with no warning and no means of defending against isn't good AI, it's simply cheap.
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GriftGFX
Since 7239 Days
No dude, it's hardcore.
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 7224 Days
Right, I forgot. Getting juggled by incessant rockets from an off-screen enemy that you can't see because the camera doesn't work well in close-quarters is hardcore too eh? This game is just steeping in hardcoredness.
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ACEfromRussia
ACEfromRussia
Since 6795 Days
Lol
U can free youself pressing LS and Y
To dodge the rockets U must always run pressing LS + A and LT when feel the ground and cut heads with LS^ A+Y
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CrayZic
Since 6974 Days
It would be nice to hear from Team Ninja concerning updates, tweaks or/and a new hurricane pack or such.
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ACEfromRussia
ACEfromRussia
Since 6795 Days
Posted by Ronsauce
cheap
LOL! This is true fantastik game design, when U fihgt with some who as powerful as U and realy can kik your ass, not beeing yor target like stupid games for kids like DMC4 and Ass Creed
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Sath
Since 7105 Days
ACE - *sigh*

Assassins Creed was awesome, some small parts had flaws.
And don't bring "Ass" Creed in here because they are not even in the same genre to be compared to NG2 :S

That, and yes the game design is not balanced.

You can't "counter" the attack of the multi missle rockets...Ryu can't even dodge and spin as he can in the CGI (look at DOA4 Ryu ending).
The only thing he can do is dodge and yet he is still vulnerable, like the roll.
Posted by ACEfromRussia
This is game for hardcore gamers, not casuals
I feel happy, playing such type of games
Itagaki said he wanted new gamers to get into NG2 that have never played NG before, and Acolyte is not changing anything.

I let my cousin who never played NG before play NG2 on Acolyte on the same chapter were you meet Zedonius, the beginning of that chapter...he could barely play more than 10 minutes.
And yes he "practiced" around 45 minutes on acolyte in the begining of the game to learn the moves...etc.

It takes time, but I asked him what he thinks about the balance of those enemies compared to the moves Ryu got, and he said its unfair and unbalanced, and there should be some sort of a counter move to avoid these missiles.

I showed him the DOA4 ending when Ryu jumps in the air and does that cool acrobatic spin move to avoid rocketlaunchers and gullets, and he said why Ryu couldn't do that in the game against those soldiers.
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LEBATO - IS WRONG
LEBATO
Since 7361 Days
Posted by Ronsauce
I certainly disagree after playing the last few levels.
Well, I did say to a point. And yes, the last few levels look pretty damn good, some impressive textures etc. But take Hayabusa Village, it looks virtually the same just in HD.
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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 7169 Days
Posted by ACEfromRussia
LOL
I think u really played Ass Creed and Devil May Shit 4 too often
Warrior dif is easyer for me than NGB was
May be U should play Acolyte or Ninja dog?
Oh please! it has nothing to do with that. I have beaten Ninja Gaiden Black on the highest difficulty so it has nothing to do with skill!

The frustrating/cheap stuff in this game is just too damn obvious. This is a pity because at several points, the game achieves brilliance but falls flat on its own ass at its cheap moments. I'm talking about the rocket-launching jerks and those rocket-firing robots that come at the same time and you're fighting on water!!!! SERIOUSLY!!!! It's just STUPID.
Posted by GriftGFX
Or maybe Team Ninja's approach to difficulty is purposefully designed to piss people off, because that's the only way that hack Itagaki can get through life without feeling inferior to the masses of game developers he's surrounded himself with. Seriously, give it a rest--we know--Ninja Gaiden is easy as pie if you're "good" (ie. Lucky) and it's got some of the best AI and difficulty design in the biz.
LOL indeed.
Absolutely GRIFT. I gave the game the benefit of the doubt at several points during the first chapters but enough is enough. This game's problem, I swear, is those rocket launching jerks which when combined with a wacky camera are a f****** Pain!!

The red ninja that fire the exploding shuriken were a pain too but I figured it out: when you get stuck with one of those, BLOCK and let it explode, you wont take damage! that helped a lot :D

Also, Volf was a Joke and so are most boss battles which is a shame. im on chapter 8 right now. How many chapters are left ?
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LEBATO
Since 7361 Days
The game's difficulty is perfectly OK in Acolyte, if you complain about it in that difficulty you have to stop crying.

Again, the only boss I had to replay was the floating caterpillar in the subway, I replayed that like 5 times. Oh and I almost forget, the green cave boss I had to replay like 3 times. But then what the hell is a boss good for right?

And yeah, there are some cheap moments, and a couple (up to chapter 13) of cheap bosses, but nothing that can't be managed. Sure it is annoying to be hit by the exploding shurikens, but then again I had an overflow of health packs all the time. Then your health regenerates, and you are ok. And by the way, with the exception of THREE weapons, I have all my other weapons FULLY upgraded. Again, what is this complaining about?

If you hate the game being cheap, just play Acolyte, if you still think the game is too hard, you have to play something else, but DO NOT blame the game because Acolyte is perfectly manageable, and in my opinion even fairly easy.
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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 7169 Days
@LEBATO

I am playing on Warrior not acolyte and the game is CHEAP!
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ACEfromRussia
ACEfromRussia
Since 6795 Days
Posted by alimokrane
@LEBATO

I am playing on Warrior not acolyte and the game is CHEAP!
Go play acolyte. master it and then-play Warrior
I playing Warrior now AFTER the acolyte and feel good with difficulty
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 7224 Days
Posted by ACEfromRussia
Lol
U can free youself pressing LS and Y
To dodge the rockets U must always run pressing LS + A and LT when feel the ground and cut heads with LS^ A+Y
You can't always free yourself, especially when the bosses grab you.

You also can't always dodge the rockets. And my main point when I brought up the rockets was that the camera is so awful that you don't always see them coming. Seriously, don't act like the game isn't cheap just because you think you're good at it.
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Well, I did say to a point. And yes, the last few levels look pretty damn good, some impressive textures etc. But take Hayabusa Village, it looks virtually the same just in HD.
There were a few levels I wasn't super impressed with like the canals, the airship, the Hyabusa village. I didn't really care because the combat looked so great, but then I saw the last few levels and man, they just blow the previous levels away.
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JackDick
JackDick
Since 6263 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
DVD9 happened.

I looove Team Ninja CG. The endings in DOA4 are great :)
yeah Ryu's ending in DOA4 is better than all the cutscenes in NG2 combined. And all the ones in NG1, especially the one where he falls into the flower field looked sweeet too.
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McDragon
Since 6423 Days
i dunno, i know the story isn't grand or anything but the real time cutscenes here were better at telling the story than the fmvs in NG1.

and i liked some of them like genshin vs joe or the motorcycle one.
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ACEfromRussia
ACEfromRussia
Since 6795 Days
Posted by Ronsauce
You can't always free yourself, especially when the bosses grab you.

You also can't always dodge the rockets. And my main point when I brought up the rockets was that the camera is so awful that you don't always see them coming. Seriously, don't act like the game isn't cheap just because you think you're good at it.
1) When boss do super capture u cant, this is boss, so it's ok.
2) Try that technics that I said - run pressing LS + A and LT when feel the ground and cut heads with LS^ A+Y
+ run on the walls

camera can be easily move behind the back, by pressing RT
and increase camera sensitiveness to MAX in options
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 7224 Days
Posted by ACEfromRussia
1) When boss do super capture u cant, this is boss, so it's ok.
No it's not! I don't mind not being able to escape once the boss has you, but not being able to avoid the grabs is fucking stupid.
2) Try that technics that I said - run pressing LS + A and LT when feel the ground and cut heads with LS^ A+Y
+ run on the walls
I appreciate that you're trying to help, but I really don't need it.
camera can be easily move behind the back, by pressing RT
and increase camera sensitiveness to MAX in options
Having the camera behind your back doesn't necessarily always show what you want to see, and sometimes in tight spaces it won't show you anything but a fucking wall. And yes, i do have the camera sensitivity set to MAX.

I'm really enjoying the game, but it does have some pretty glaring flaws. Just because you don't have a problem with the game's shortcomings doesn't mean that they aren't there.
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ACEfromRussia
ACEfromRussia
Since 6795 Days
casual detected
may be u have arms, who grows not from the right place, coz I finished Acolyte(11 hours 22 min) and 1/2 of warrior(in this moment) and I never has imposible places
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JackDick
JackDick
Since 6263 Days
Posted by Ronsauce
Having the camera behind your back doesn't necessarily always show what you want to see, and sometimes in tight spaces it won't show you anything but a fucking wall.
heck yeah it does. When I was playing I was thinking "did they even have anyone play test this game before it came out?" cause the camera is crazy, its super-low for some reason so all u get is a shot of Ryu's butt. (Damn Itagaki, I thought you were only into girls like that...)
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JackDick
Since 6263 Days
btw did anyone actually like Sonia's design? She basically looked like Rachel from NG1 but with her hair cut. She kinda looked like Elliot from DOA4 but with big breasts and legs.
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ACEfromRussia
Since 6795 Days
I like Sonia as she looks in the end of the game. And I like her face. She reminds me Uma Turman/Kill Bill vol 1
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