LEBATO - IS WRONG
LEBATO
Since 7359 Days
Well, after that I have to say that NG2 is toally depressing technically speaking.......in fact, Tecmo/Team Ninja have been a total failure this generation in terms of graphics. It is surprising because last gen, DOA3 was the second best looking fighting game last gen........second to DOA4, and that released at launch if I'm correct.

Needless to say, NG was a masterpiece, very few if anything came close to it.

Oh well, let's just say it hasn't been TN's generation.
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gmulis - blames poor<br>marketing
gmulis
Since 7025 Days
^^^^^by the end of the day is it worth it?

especially when game development cost $10 million

i think TN measured whether make a game with advanced graphics or simple upgrade when game sells will be the same ragardless, why spend so much with same result. its pretty given that the people who liked the first are the one who by the 2nd one, Ng is not likely to expand the audiance
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You can dream all you want, kid, but it won't do any good 'cause when you wake up again you'll realize nothing has changed.

NeoNemesis
NeoNemesis
Since 6949 Days
Posted by Ronsauce
I'm definitely glad I'm satisfied with how a lot of console games look. The last thing I want right now is a new console; there's still much to be done with what we have.
The thing is that technology is changing so fast that they'll get outdated soon, oh wait thats already happened. :p
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Wii60!

"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)

Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 7222 Days
Posted by NeoNemesis
The thing is that technology is changing so fast that they'll get outdated soon, oh wait thats already happened. :p
Not if you aren't a PC gamer.
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"If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate." - Zapp Brannigan

GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7237 Days
Posted by JackDick
yeah PC is already the most powerful, theres no game on any console that matches the gfx on Crysis, not even Far Cry 2. which kinda sucks tho, because Ill never have the $2-$3000 to spend on a PC that can run Crysis or games that need that much power with full detail.

funny how it seems like 360 and PS3 just came out and now im already thinking that a newer gen console is due out soon.
My current PC certainly isn't good enough to run new games on their highest settings, but I still enjoy COD4 quite a bit more on the PC than I would if I was playing the console version. The notebook I intend to purchase this fall should be Crysis capable--maybe not on its highest settings but that's not really a big deal--it will still max out just about every other game.

Come next spring I'll probably spring for new desktop components, but I could easily see pushing a desktop past console-like performance for under $1000 if you're not springing for every little component. It's especially possible now that the 8800GTS (G92) has come down in price and availability and the 9600GT is out and about for under $150.

2010 seems like a good time to start thinking about the next Xbox though. I may not adopt as early as I have in the past, but five years seems like a fair run. I just hope they give us full backwards compatibility, including w/ DRM content.
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NeoNemesis
NeoNemesis
Since 6949 Days
Posted by Ronsauce
Not if you aren't a PC gamer.
Wait, what?
Posted by LEBATO
Well, after that I have to say that NG2 is toally depressing technically speaking.......in fact, Tecmo/Team Ninja have been a total failure this generation in terms of graphics. It is surprising because last gen, DOA3 was the second best looking fighting game last gen........second to DOA4, and that released at launch if I'm correct.

Needless to say, NG was a masterpiece, very few if anything came close to it.

Oh well, let's just say it hasn't been TN's generation.
Frankly speaking TN is the 2nd best japanese developer out there. Capcom is raping everyone though.
Posted by GriftGFX
2010 seems like a good time to start thinking about the next Xbox though. I may not adopt as early as I have in the past, but five years seems like a fair run. I just hope they give us full backwards compatibility, including w/ DRM content.
They should release a console every 3-4 years IMO. Make it affordable and not overpriced. That'll be fine by me!
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Wii60!

"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)

Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 7222 Days
Posted by NeoNemesis
Wait, what?
technology is changing so fast that they'll get outdated soon, oh wait thats already happened. :p
Console games aren't outdated if you aren't a PC gamer because nothing beats them.
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"If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate." - Zapp Brannigan

LEBATO - IS WRONG
LEBATO
Since 7359 Days
Posted by Ronsauce
Not if you aren't a PC gamer.
I guess that is a bad joke?
Posted by NeoNemesis
They should release a console every 3-4 years IMO. Make it affordable and not overpriced. That'll be fine by me!
Whoa, they better not! Games take about that much to develop at times (especially new AAA franchises), that would piss me off.
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NeoNemesis
NeoNemesis
Since 6949 Days
Posted by LEBATO
Whoa, they better not! Games take about that much to develop at times (especially new AAA franchises), that would piss me off.
Phil Harrison said next-gen you'll see less and less high-budget games. Its costing developers way too much money, and as they say, time is money.
Posted by Ronsauce
Console games aren't outdated if you aren't a PC gamer because nothing beats them.
I'm talking about technology here, it changes too quickly, and when you look at everything around including the consoles, they do get outdated. But, yea, I know what you mean.
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Wii60!

"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)

Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 7222 Days
Posted by LEBATO
I guess that is a bad joke?
I don't see why I would be joking. I'm not a PC gamer. I don't care about PC games. All I play is console games, so why would I look at the current generation of console games as "outdated?"
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"If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate." - Zapp Brannigan

NeoNemesis
NeoNemesis
Since 6949 Days
Posted by Ronsauce
I don't see why I would be joking. I'm not a PC gamer. I don't care about PC games. All I play is console games, so why would I look at the current generation of console games as "outdated?"
Well, if it weren't for PC, consoles wouldn't be where they are today. :p And, you should try some PC games, there are a lot great PC games out there.
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Wii60!

"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)

NeoNemesis
NeoNemesis
Since 6949 Days
Video: Shiny Xbox prototype in Ninja Gaiden II

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/06/01/video-shin...
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Wii60!

"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)

LEBATO - IS WRONG
LEBATO
Since 7359 Days
Posted by NeoNemesis
Video: Shiny Xbox prototype in Ninja Gaiden II

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/06/01/video-shin...
Ha, that was in NG for the Xbox too. Funny.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7103 Days
For those who are a fan of the first Ng and loved to get a REAL challenge all I say is...the fiend Ryu (evil Ryu) is back!

Same fiend that showed up on harder difficaulties and looked like Ryu himself, he is gonna be in NG2, and this is one of the best news I have heard.

Best enemy in the game too.
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*Ninja Gaiden 2 - Metal Gear Solid 4*

*A New Form of Change*

JackDick
JackDick
Since 6261 Days
Posted by Sath
For those who are a fan of the first Ng and loved to get a REAL challenge all I say is...the fiend Ryu (evil Ryu) is back!

Same fiend that showed up on harder difficaulties and looked like Ryu himself, he is gonna be in NG2, and this is one of the best news I have heard.

Best enemy in the game too.
this might be a spoiler to some ppl (not me, i dont care)
Posted by LEBATO
Well, after that I have to say that NG2 is toally depressing technically speaking.......in fact, Tecmo/Team Ninja have been a total failure this generation in terms of graphics. It is surprising because last gen, DOA3 was the second best looking fighting game last gen........second to DOA4, and that released at launch if I'm correct.

Needless to say, NG was a masterpiece, very few if anything came close to it.

Oh well, let's just say it hasn't been TN's generation.
dude, thank you for being like the only person who agrees with me. The DOA games have always blown me away with their gfx, starting with DOA2 on Dreamcast and NG for Xbox looked freakin amazing. So I was thinking like well if they can do that on Xbox hardware, NG2 and DOA4 should have damn near CGI quality gfx using xbox 360's hardware. I guess I was assuming since Xbox360 is however many times more powerful than Xbox, these new sequels to Xbox games should look that many times better. But instead its only like small gfx upgrades here and there. Im not a developer so i dont know but yeh like you said...kinda disappointing.
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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 7222 Days
Posted by NeoNemesis
Well, if it weren't for PC, consoles wouldn't be where they are today. :p And, you should try some PC games, there are a lot great PC games out there.
That still doesn't change my original point.

I used to play PC games, but upgrading would be cripplingly expensive.
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"If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate." - Zapp Brannigan

NeoNemesis
NeoNemesis
Since 6949 Days
Posted by Ronsauce
That still doesn't change my original point.

I used to play PC games, but upgrading would be cripplingly expensive.
Well, I hope they have a solution for cheap upgrades that are good enough for 1 year or so. :p
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Wii60!

"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)

alimokrane
alimokrane
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Viginti_Tres
Viginti_Tres
Since 6739 Days
Nice, I just noticed that my copy is on its way already. Should be here tomorrow. Just too bad I'm not there to lay it...
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Jin187
Jin187
Since 6981 Days
Posted by alimokrane
Phenomenal, combat system in this game really comes sooooo damn close to perfection, its literally unbelievable!
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7237 Days
Posted by Viginti_Tres
Nice, I just noticed that my copy is on its way already. Should be here tomorrow. Just too bad I'm not there to lay it...
You like to get to know your games on an intimate level, eh?
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NeoNemesis
NeoNemesis
Since 6949 Days
Posted by alimokrane
I want it now!
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Wii60!

"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)

NeoNemesis
NeoNemesis
Since 6949 Days
Kikizo: You mentioned to us before that Saito-san would begin production work on Code Cronus once this game was finished, so I am wondering if that has now begun?

Itagaki: So in terms of what I'm going to be doing in the future, we'll be releasing more information probably some time around late June or early July kind of time frame, so you can expect to hear more around then.


Kikizo: Dead or Alive 5, obviously you have announced it - do you think it will be another Xbox 360 exclusive, will you work with Microsoft once more?

Itagaki: That will be part of our announcement later in the summer.
http://games.kikizo.com/features/itagaki_iv_jun08_...

His new game will be announced soon!
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Wii60!

"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)

Viginti_Tres
Viginti_Tres
Since 6739 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
You like to get to know your games on an intimate level, eh?
lol, kinda misses a "p". But yeah, maybe that's the reason some of my discs look so "worn"...
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NeoNemesis
NeoNemesis
Since 6949 Days
Here it is guys:

Ninja Gaiden II demo hits Xbox Live tomorrow

http://majornelson.com/archive/2008/06/02/ninja-ga...

Oh, and 2 more reviews:

http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1511/Ninja-Ga... 9/10

http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/ninja-gaiden-2... 4.5/5

Good reviews!
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Wii60!

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