GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7580 Days
Posted by INDIGO
Says it's up to publishers to have DRM or not. I wonder how many will opt out...
Did you read your own link? That describes, exactly, an online pass. Even if they do opt in, it doesn't bully entire markets (like Gamefly/Redbox and the rental market) out of existence. It allows you to directly trade, borrow, etc. without the permission of the publisher (which is what is required on Xbox). In an unlimited fashion. It's not even a slightly as restricting, and it sure as hell isn't so convoluted. What's really ironic is citing hate for Gamestop in adding support for a system that would make them a virtual monopoly :D

Support that shit. But it's clearly much bigger bullshit than an online pass. The "Sony is doing it too!" argument is now bunk. The "it doesn't affect me so I don't care about anything else!" is a better, more genuine position. Stick with that one :)
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INDIGO
INDIGO
Since 8282 Days
No, they use the online pass as an existing example of what that COULD entail. It does not say it is limited to an online pass type of system. It specifically says that publishers "are free to add DRM to their PS4 games if they wish".
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7580 Days
Just like they're free to add DRM to their PS3 and Xbox 360 discs.

http://youtu.be/w6eOa812mYA

There's nothing here so convoluted as Microsoft's mess of a DRM scheme. Reaching.
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 6288 Days
Posted by INDIGO
No, they use the online pass as an existing example of what that COULD entail. It does not say it is limited to an online pass type of system. It specifically says that publishers "are free to add DRM to their PS4 games if they wish".
Sony will NOT let publishers put DRM on Single Player, they can't and Sony will not allow it, is exactly like the online pass we have now in some games.

Get a grip man, read lol.
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INDIGO
INDIGO
Since 8282 Days
This is me "reaching" thru your monitor and slapping you in the face with a fish. *slap slap*
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INDIGO
INDIGO
Since 8282 Days
Wow the Xbox One thread is over twice as long as the PS4 thread here. And over twice as many thread views.

I think it's clear who already won this next generation. B)
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GrimThorne
GrimThorne
Since 7453 Days
Posted by Jollipop
On UK amazon Ps4 (No 1) is still leading Xbones.

It went from 14th to number 1 in 24 hours lol.
Posted by scoobs0688
Its #1 everywhere. The fact that either sells out isnt necessarily indicative of which is selling better, it means their inventory that microsoft/sony allotted to them to sell through is gone
I wasn't comparing rank in sales position, but if the inventory is gone then honestly rank becomes a moot point.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7580 Days
Posted by INDIGO
Wow the Xbox One thread is over twice as long as the PS4 thread here. And over twice as many thread views.

I think it's clear who already won this next generation. B)
Your most logical argument yet ;)
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Posted by INDIGO
Wow the Xbox One thread is over twice as long as the PS4 thread here. And over twice as many thread views.

I think it's clear who already won this next generation. B)
Yes, we come here for laughter and "fun" times, we sure are getting that lol
rayy
rayy
Since 7554 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
Your most logical argument yet ;)
You are giving him too much calling that logical, even if it is sarcasm.
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 6288 Days
Posted by Sath
Yes, we come here for laughter and "fun" times, we sure are getting that lol
lols.

And it will have more posts herein teh future, we ain't giving you up uninformed people, we will strike with the force of thousands suns the info down your throat untill you realize and see what those demons are doing.
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scoobs0688
scoobs0688
Since 6215 Days
production capablities/supply chains between msft/sony are huge this holiday season. They gotta build up enough inventory to be able to sell as many boxes as possible before christmas rolls around. A head start is always coming out of the first holiday season is always nice
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volvicstraw
Since 5586 Days
Posted by gym4life
Halo 5 hits next year
Says who?
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blmbox
blmbox
Since 6912 Days
So, the PS4 has none if this always online/used games policy bull, it's cheaper, and (arguably) has better games at launch? Think I know which console I'm going for.
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Winter is coming. Brrrr.

GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7580 Days
Posted by volvicstraw
Says who?
Logic, reason. Why wait any longer?
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Tomarru
Since 6652 Days
Just remember, this is the time when scalpers operate, they will be buying as many consoles as they can so them selling out isnt surprising. Its when a week after launch ebay is flooded with them or not is when you can see how popular it really is.
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INDIGO
INDIGO
Since 8282 Days
That's ok I'm done here. Thank you all for reminding me why I no longer come here for serious discussion. Enjoy your E3! (except you PS4 trolls - sit on a party hat)
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gym4life
Since 6105 Days
Posted by volvicstraw
Says who?
It was mentioned on most gaming sights.
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volvicstraw
Since 5586 Days
Posted by gym4life
It was mentioned on most gaming sights.
Yeah did a search, Q4 2014!
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 6288 Days
Posted by INDIGO
That's ok I'm done here. Thank you all for reminding me why I no longer come here for serious discussion. Enjoy your E3! (except you PS4 trolls - sit on a party hat)
Wait, I was being serious man, Im not trolling or anything.

At first I thought you were trolling because of the silly stuff you were posting.
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 7463 Days
Posted by GrimThorne
I wasn't comparing rank in sales position, but if the inventory is gone then honestly rank becomes a moot point.
Fair enough but wouldn't that suggest that Sony have allotted more console ?
Posted by INDIGO
That's ok I'm done here. Thank you all for reminding me why I no longer come here for serious discussion. Enjoy your E3! (except you PS4 trolls - sit on a party hat)
You forget this site used to be Xboxsyde ?, times have just changed and MS have pissed us all off.
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GrimThorne
GrimThorne
Since 7453 Days
Posted by Jollipop
Fair enough but wouldn't that suggest that Sony have allotted more console ?
It's possible. Have you seen the size of the X1's SoC? It's enormous, they shoved EVERYTHING on the die. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they have low yields given a chip that size.

I'd still like to get some info on it. Microsoft's arch panel made mention of partially resident textures (means the X1 can do ultra-high resolution textures), hardware upscaling (they weren't totally clear on that), optimized memory caches, special silicone from AMD (at a cost of $3 Billion over the next 36 months). I'd really like to read into all of that stuff.
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Tinks
Tinks
Since 7510 Days
Dead Rising 3 will be just like 2 and 1. Forgettable

Kill Instinct will bomb and Halo 5 is probably going to take till at least fall 2014
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gym4life
Since 6105 Days
Posted by GrimThorne
It's possible. Have you seen the size of the X1's SoC? It's enormous, they shoved EVERYTHING on the die. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they have low yields given a chip that size.

I'd still like to get some info on it. Microsoft's arch panel made mention of partially resident textures (means the X1 can do ultra-high resolution textures), hardware upscaling (they weren't totally clear on that), optimized memory caches, special silicone from AMD (at a cost of $3 Billion over the next 36 months). I'd really like to read into all of that stuff.
Is there a video of that event or write up?
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deftangel
Since 7448 Days
For all this talk of Xbox Ones strong lineup, most of it is 2014. There was a lot of talk about investment in games studios, they've done the bare minimum the last two years and yet their launch titles are Forza, KI and?...

If you're getting an Xbox One at launch, what game for exactly?

I've no interest in Killlzone either to be honest so the same applies to the PS4 to an extent. I remember getting Perfect Dark Zero when the 360 launched and the PS2 was famously sketchy for launch titles but I still can't see huge numbers of people falling over themselves to get one this year.

The price and other baggage towers over a decent E3 showing for me.
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