Isnt it free? Why not get it?

Yeah, you can hardly even call it free to play. Tekken has done it right, think that has 8 characters, including key mainstays like king and paul. What's offered there is more then a typical fighting game demo. What's offered in KI is less.

They'll be showing more KI this weekend at EVO I believe


So is Rare pretty much dead?

They were dead the day Ninty thought they didn't need them anymore and Microsoft bought them. :/

The old guard would have probably suited well making imaginative WiiU-games.

Read this if you want to learn more http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-02-08-who-k...

Rare is working on other games that haven't been announced yet, I believe. Killer Instinct isn't a Rare title, even though Rare are partly overseeing the project. And you have a very key person that worked on that fighting game weapon lord, not sure if anybody remembers that game, working on Killer Instinct for Xbox One. I've been paying a lot more attention ever since learning this and I think it's a fair and valid argument to make that Double Helix has never been given this kind of budget with this amount of time to work on a game before, so perhaps their other projects might not have actually been a fair gauge of what they're capable of as a development studio. I mean, a tiny budget and only 8 months to make a licensed game? This is what they've had to deal with prior to this. It's no surprise at all their previous games were as lackluster as they were.

Hell, this single game alone already looks significantly better than anything they've ever made by a pretty healthy margin. In fact, maybe the only thing I really dislike thus far is the possibility of no finishers (not sure if confirmed) and glacius' design. The rest looks and sounds pretty damn amazing. There's always that one game on a console that you want to just be able to play with no major commitment at all, the kind of game where just about anybody can jump in or jump out, anybody is capable of having fun with it, and it lends itself very naturally to playing with a friend or amongst friends. This looks like one such game. It strikes me like the Xbox One's Geometry Wars, except it's Killer Instinct. I can't get enough of how over the top they've gone with the particle effects in the game. And they're doing some interesting things with sound also. Hell, the game is shameful fan service, but there's nothing really wrong with that.

On the topic of Rare. Just watched this.

GoldenEye 007 - 15 Year Retrospective Review
http://youtu.be/Q8vibZquW5E

Sad to see what they have become today.

Killer Instinct looks awesome, the only thing I dont like based on what i've seen is the mid combo slowdowns on the Ultras. Also, Jago's wind kicks looked much better in the earlier version :( Either way, i cant wait to play it!Guess you've never heard of combo breakers? Besides, ive seen lots of videos of them game and havent seen a single "death combo". Link?

New rumours:

Xbox One now having over 4 TFlops and may have 12 Gig of RAM

http://www.examiner.com/article/xbox-one-rumors-po...

And combo breakers are supposed to be a good thing? Just feels like a dumb way to solve the balancing issues with the combos. If its MK style, all your gage usage will be combo breaking, if its limited to a certain amounts of uses its just dumb, and if they are infinite then combos are gimped. Combo breakers suck.

4 TFLOPS LMAO.....

No!

People believe anything. I remember pastebin rumors for XO once every week before the actual reveal.

how can anyone not love rumours? they're adorable.

I'd rather see the rumored new Darkstalkers game that's on its way

Also Rareware were amazing on the N64

As for Ninty not thinking they're worth it... Nintendo only cares about Nintendo, that's been obvious for quite some time

Lol somebody open a petition to Microsoft to revert game policies as they were before.

http://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-give-us-...

Some of the reasons people comment for signing are hilarious.

Clearly people sign just for trolling.

Bogus. Debunked by the very same website i believe :P They are manufacturing these things as we speak, the hardware stuff gets locked in long ago

Eh, just remember that it was the Examiner's source (the one now claiming no xtra RAM) is the same person who called the Sony 8GB DDR5 rumor bogus as well.

It would do well for people to recognize that by the time most rumors reach us they've passed through so many interpretational filters that it's hard to accept any of it without trucks of salt. That's the reason why I have difficulty accepting it. It sounds like an old rumor that got tossed in for good measure.

For right now Microsoft is claiming 8x the graphics power of the X360. That's 1.9TFs. In order to get to that performance the X1's GPU would have to have look something like this-

Shading Units: 896
TMUs: 56
ROPs: 16
Compute Units: 14
Pixel Rate: 17.2 GPixel/s
Texture Rate: 60.2 GTexel/s
Floating-point performance: 1,926 GFLOPS
GPU Clock: 1075 MHz
Bandwidth: 102 GB/s
TDP: 85Wts

This should look familiar to anyone who has seen an OC'd 7790, and this is about as real of an expectation that any of us should expect.

8x the graphics power of the Xbox 360 becomes very easy to see when you realize that the Xbox 360's GPU is only about 53-60% efficient by Microsoft's own admission. A significantly more efficient XB1 GPU, 100% efficiency according to MS, that is already packing much more raw power is certain to be 8x more powerful. On top of that, Dave Baumann said recently that when developers make effective use of the XB1's ESRAM, the graphics performance of the system will far and away outstrip the performance of even a discrete GPU such as the Radeon 7790, and that's practically a 1.8 teraflop discrete PC GPU that he made a direct comparison to.

With regards to 8GB of ram to 12GB of ram, I think this is essentially exactly what Microsoft did with the Xbox 360 prior to release. I believe it was originally planned to ship with just 256MB of ram, but the dev kits had 512MB. And so Microsoft simply took advantage of the dev kit pcb that they already had designed and utilized those inside the retail Xbox 360s. Right now I believe final XB1 dev kits are indeed packing 12GB of ram, so a move to 12GB of ram wouldn't exactly be completely out of the realm of possibility, and a clock speed increase on the GPU isn't something I'd see as impossible. A clock speed increase on the CPU, however, is more than likely impossible because it generates too much heat and power even with slight overclocks.

Also, the XB1 is most likely not in full scale mass production yet.

Just enough time to change half the known specs of the system ;)

I can't believe we're back to rumours about specs...LMAO.

If E3 wasn't already an indication, the specs clearly won't hold the system back from having some amazing looking games. It's obviously a very capable machine, and that's on full display based solely from stuff set for early launch. As long as the games are there, it can and will be as strong a gaming platform as anything else out there.

All other speculation is just a fun bit of distraction in the time being, but not nearly as fun as thinking about the games. There's so much that I originally wasn't all that into that is slowly but surely growing on me the more I look into them. Even Dead Rising 3, which I wasn't all that sure about in the early going, now has me pretty damn interested in just what kind of fully open world game this could end up being at launch. Depending on the possibilities regarding how far the open world truly goes and how they bring it all together, we could be looking at quite a sleeper that's a whole hell of a lot better than most might expect for a launch title. And if they can on top of that, iron out that performance and make it a really smooth experience while having it look as good or better than it did at E3, then things should get pretty fun. :D

And learning that the smartglass stuff is a whole other extra storyline in the game involving another character that talks to you and is trapped inside some kind of military compound with access to all kinds of interesting military weapons tech or switchboards and he can even provide you with various side missions, and that it's purely optional content on top of this fact, sounds like a very nice touch. It actually didn't occur to me till tonight that I don't even necessarily need to use a smartphone or tablet to take advantage of this content, I can just as easily use the smartglass app on my windows 8/8.1 pc to make sure I don't miss out on any features or extra game content. All in all pretty cool stuff.