The XbOne Yard

Since 7423 Days

Posted by Megido

So...you don't think square put a shit ton of time and effort in to FF XIII?

Well I don't. They realized that they wasted the man hours of 5 of their games last-gen on an engine and then added placeholder content for 3 games. It's their most linear Final Fantasy to date. But this is coming from a guy who hasn't enjoyed a Final Fantasy since Hironobu Sakaguchi went crazy and made a 2hr tech demo released in theaters.

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Megido

Since 6903 Days

Pretty sure they put effort in to the game, and even if they didn't with the first one there is no excuse for the second one. The fact that they even developed the engine in-house for this single game is a testament to how freaking stuck in the past they are. If they had just licensed Unreal or something similar, they could have focused on what matters; telling a story and delivering an experience.

They are just stuck in the past, with mediocre storytelling and dated mechanics that end up in a mush of nostalgia for the heyday of the genre. But it really doesn't work out in the climate of the market today. Even the really good jRPGs kinda get swept under the rug now, because the genre is in such decline. Persona 4 has just barely sold over a million copies with the vita re-release included and doesn't that just say it all?

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sanex

Since 5765 Days

I thought LO was a good game, combat was a bit old skool but still enjoyable.

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_killzone_

Since 5768 Days

Posted by abcgamer

What I mean but forcing is obviously not literally. They are not giving user choices.

Making online play free to anyone who buys a console and dedicated server for premium users. Having an option to buy it without Kinect2. I mean it will add so much price. kinect itself these days is 100$ which is still too expensive so Kinect2 with HD resolution obviously will add more price to the console. Also what makes them think that people need it or even if they get it have to use it. There should not be any reason for it to be on. Do they really think people will spend all day or night in a couch with chips and mountain dew swapping between sports, tv and games with Kinect2. When did pressing a button become so complicated anyways.

Talking about giving options, proprietary HDD is not a good idea at all.

With Kinect2 XO will probably be 500$. 450$ is the least onsidering Kinect1 is still 100$.

Microsoft are in big problem this time with PS4 releasing on same time frame and Sony learning from their mistakes this gen. Microsoft target audience is different to Sony and Nintendo.

Do not watch angry joe. He is a pro 360 guy but I thought his reaction was genuine. Nice video rant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ekOtn7L1N0

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[quote=abcgamer]

What I mean but forcing is obviously not literally. They are not giving user choices.

Making online play free to anyone who buys a console and dedicated server for premium users. Having an option to buy it without Kinect2. I mean it will add so much price. kinect itself these days is 100$ which is still too expensive so Kinect2 with HD resolution  obviously will add more price to the console. Also what makes them think that people need it or even if they get it have to use it. There should not be any reason for it to be on. Do they really think people will spend all day or night in  a couch with chips and mountain dew swapping between sports, tv and games with Kinect2. When did pressing a button become so complicated anyways.

Talking about giving options, proprietary HDD is not a good idea at all.[/quote]

With Kinect2 XO will probably be 500$. 450$ is the least onsidering Kinect1 is still 100$.

Microsoft  are in big problem this time with PS4 releasing on same time frame and Sony learning from their mistakes this gen. Microsoft target audience is different to Sony and Nintendo.

Do not watch angry joe. He is a pro 360 guy but I thought his reaction was genuine. Nice video rant.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ekOtn7L1N0[/url]

sanex

Since 5765 Days

Very cool controller info:

During the press conference we admit this sounded like complete marketing guff, especially when combined with the phrase "dynamic impulse triggers". But in truth when we tried this particular feature for ourselves we found it to be one of the most exciting aspects of Xbox One from a gamer's point of view.

Essentially, Microsoft has increased the number of force feedback motors in the Xbox One controller, allowing for more subtle rumble in localised parts of the pad. In one FPS-style demo we played, a virtual hand held out a pistol. Firing the pistol with the controller's right trigger resulted in simulated recoil occurring on just that part of the controller.

In another demo, which had the same virtual hand magically spawn a fire ball, we could 'feel' the explosive projectile explode from the centre of the controller and out towards your fingers. It was an impressive effect.

Other demos better showed off the feature's application as a gameplay enhancement. One allowed us to start the engine of a supercar with the Y button, causing the Xbox One controller to cough and splutter realistically as the virtual engine sparked to life

In another section showing a close up of the vehicle's wheels, the controller pulsed to simulated bumps in the road surface, and then violently clanged as the anti-lock breaks kicked in.

Finally, a simple demo featuring a human figure caused the controller to simulate a heartbeat, directly on the corresponding spot of the pad on the top right hand corner. It's been suggested the subtlety of Xbox One's force feedback could be used to find secrets of even indicate the direction of enemy fire in next-gen games.

Every journalist we spoke to at Microsoft's Redmond event agreed; the Xbox One controller feels like a big improvement over its 360 predecessor.

In comfort, the pad's handles feel more angular and better defined, screw holes and seam lines have been removed and the 360's bulky battery pack has been rotated 90 degrees and absorbed inside the controller. The latter means the Xbox One pad feels lighter, with weight better distributed across the peripheral.

From a functionality perspective, fans will be pleased to hear that the much-criticised d-pad of the current console has been redesigned and now feels tighter and more accurate with buttons presses rewarded with a satisfying click. The analogue sticks too have had their dead zones minimised significantly, says Microsoft.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/408733/featur...

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Very cool controller info:

[quote]
 
During the press conference we admit this sounded like complete marketing guff, especially when combined with the phrase "dynamic impulse triggers". But in truth when we tried this particular feature for ourselves we found it to be one of the most exciting aspects of Xbox One from a gamer's point of view.

Essentially, Microsoft has increased the number of force feedback motors in the Xbox One controller, allowing for more subtle rumble in localised parts of the pad. [b]In one FPS-style demo we played, a virtual hand held out a pistol. Firing the pistol with the controller's right trigger resulted in simulated recoil occurring on just that part of the controller.

In another demo, which had the same virtual hand magically spawn a fire ball, we could 'feel' the explosive projectile explode from the centre of the controller and out towards your fingers. It was an impressive effect.[/b]

Other demos better showed off the feature's application as a gameplay enhancement. [b]One allowed us to start the engine of a supercar with the Y button, causing the Xbox One controller to cough and splutter realistically as the virtual engine sparked to life

In another section showing a close up of the vehicle's wheels, the controller pulsed to simulated bumps in the road surface, and then violently clanged as the anti-lock breaks kicked in.[/b]

[b]Finally, a simple demo featuring a human figure caused the controller to simulate a heartbeat, directly on the corresponding spot of the pad on the top right hand corner. It's been suggested the subtlety of Xbox One's force feedback could be used to find secrets of even indicate the direction of enemy fire in next-gen games.[/b]

Every journalist we spoke to at Microsoft's Redmond event agreed; the Xbox One controller feels like a big improvement over its 360 predecessor.

[b]In comfort, the pad's handles feel more angular and better defined, screw holes and seam lines have been removed and the 360's bulky battery pack has been rotated 90 degrees and absorbed inside the controller. The latter means the Xbox One pad feels lighter, with weight better distributed across the peripheral.

From a functionality perspective, fans will be pleased to hear that the much-criticised d-pad of the current console has been redesigned and now feels tighter and more accurate with buttons presses rewarded with a satisfying click. [/b]The analogue sticks too have had their dead zones minimised significantly, says Microsoft. [/quote]

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/408733/features/ready-to-rumble-hands-on-with-xbox-ones-impressive-controller/

ManThatYouFear

Since 7521 Days

has no one realized yet that the xbox oneis going to be cheap as fuck?

there planning to get there money back with gold (to access 99% of content)
money from second hand sales market (really think how much ms will make from this if there the leading console)
sticking to a robbing xbla strategy
keep on ripping the consumer off by forcing publishers to charge for dlc (you aware they charge publishers if they give stuff away)
plus other ways i can not think of cause i is pooly :(

xbox one will be cheap, very very cheap.

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GriftGFX

Since 7578 Days

No it won't be. What do you think is "very very cheap?"

I wonder what everyone is going to do if Sony has the same DRM. This place is going to be hilarious.

I know what I'm doing. Not buying a new console for the first time in my life.

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ManThatYouFear

Since 7521 Days

i just think its there best move to destroy the competition, out the three there the only ones that can afford it, and they will make it back eventually.

and yes if sony do something similar then wii u and pc all the way.

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alimokrane

Since 7508 Days

Posted by GriftGFX

I know what I'm doing. Not buying a new console for the first time in my life.

And I will join you on that! It's about time I go back to PC gaming.

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_killzone_

Since 5768 Days

Posted by ManThatYouFear

has no one realized yet that the xbox oneis going to be cheap as fuck?

there planning to get there money back with gold (to access 99% of content)
money from second hand sales market (really think how much ms will make from this if there the leading console)
sticking to a robbing xbla strategy
keep on ripping the consumer off by forcing publishers to charge for dlc (you aware they charge publishers if they give stuff away)
plus other ways i can not think of cause i is pooly :(

xbox one will be cheap, very very cheap.

The console it self will be more expensive than Wii U. Wii U specs are dated but because of tablet type controller it is expensive. I cannot imagine it less than 300$ + kinect2 so 400$ is bare minimum.

I do not think DRM is a big deal for too many people, me included. I get game late. It is easy to find games at 30$ or less. Launch day + DLC, season pass comes to 100$ which IMO is bigger problem, ridiculous. DLC annoys me so much. But even if you buy a game 1 year late with all DLC it is very cheap

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[quote=ManThatYouFear]has no one realized yet that the xbox oneis going to be cheap as fuck?

there planning to get there money back with gold (to access 99% of content)
money from second hand sales market (really think how much ms will make from this if there the leading console)
sticking to a robbing xbla strategy
keep on ripping the consumer off by forcing publishers to charge for dlc (you aware they charge publishers if they give stuff away)
plus other ways i can not think of cause i is pooly :(

xbox one will be cheap, very very cheap.[/quote]

The console it self will be more expensive than Wii U. Wii U specs are dated but because of tablet type controller it is expensive. I cannot imagine it less than 300$ + kinect2 so 400$ is bare minimum.

I do not think DRM is a big deal for too many people, me included. I get game late. It is easy to find games at 30$ or less. Launch day + DLC, season pass comes to 100$ which IMO is bigger problem, ridiculous. DLC annoys me so much. But even if you buy a game 1 year late with all DLC it is very cheap

Megido

Since 6903 Days

Guessing they will try to subsidize it someway. Maybe buy it and sign up for 2 years of Gold and some boradband or something like that.

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Mr. Flibble is very cross

GrimThorne

Since 7450 Days

Posted by _killzone_

The console it self will be more expensive than Wii U. Wii U specs are dated but because of tablet type controller it is expensive. I cannot imagine it less than 300$ + kinect2 so 400$ is bare minimum.

You might be surprised to learn that you can mass manufacture a 7inch multi-touch tablet with a 1GHz cpu, 4GBstorage, 512ram, webcam and wifi for about $44. If that manufacturer wants HD they'll pay a little over $60. And the WiiU controller doesn't even have all of that. Look at it- Cheap shit.

As for Microsoft, I really think that in their zeal for casuals and mediaphiles, they underestimated gamers' willingness to pay a little more for a dedicated gaming machine. They really should have gone with a 2 SKU strategy, they could have targeted each demographic accordingly and made a killing off both. The All-In-One approach contains more risks, the console contains too many things that other demographic doesn't want or need.

If I get an Xbox One I won't be hooking it up to my set-top, the damn thing doesn't even record any programming. So right there, all of those multi-functions that they stressed last week are worthless to me. Why should I allow MS to gauge how much television I'm watching, what are the benefits to having voice and gesture if I can't tell it "record?"

It all comes down to E3 now.

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[quote=_killzone_]

The console it self will be more expensive than Wii U. Wii U specs are dated but because of tablet type controller it is expensive. I cannot imagine it less than 300$ + kinect2 so 400$ is bare minimum.

[/quote]

You might be surprised to learn that you can mass manufacture a 7inch multi-touch tablet with a 1GHz cpu,  4GBstorage, 512ram, webcam and wifi for about $44. If that manufacturer wants HD they'll pay a little over $60.  And the WiiU controller doesn't even have all of that.  Look at it- Cheap shit.

[IMG]http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/nXBFfj1TBhm2eZSn-580x435.jpg[/IMG]

As for Microsoft, I really think that in their zeal for casuals and mediaphiles, they underestimated gamers' willingness to pay a little more for a dedicated gaming machine.  They really should have gone with a 2 SKU strategy, they could have targeted each demographic accordingly and made a killing off both.  The All-In-One approach contains more risks, the console contains too many things that other demographic doesn't want or need.

If I get an Xbox One I won't be hooking it up to my set-top, the damn thing doesn't even record any programming.  So right there, all of those multi-functions that they stressed last week are worthless to me.  Why should I allow MS to gauge how much television I'm watching, what are the benefits to having voice and gesture if I can't tell it "record?"

It all comes down to E3 now.

BLackHawkodst

Since 6464 Days

Posted by sanex

Very cool controller info:

During the press conference we admit this sounded like complete marketing guff, especially when combined with the phrase "dynamic impulse triggers". But in truth when we tried this particular feature for ourselves we found it to be one of the most exciting aspects of Xbox One from a gamer's point of view.

Essentially, Microsoft has increased the number of force feedback motors in the Xbox One controller, allowing for more subtle rumble in localised parts of the pad. In one FPS-style demo we played, a virtual hand held out a pistol. Firing the pistol with the controller's right trigger resulted in simulated recoil occurring on just that part of the controller.

In another demo, which had the same virtual hand magically spawn a fire ball, we could 'feel' the explosive projectile explode from the centre of the controller and out towards your fingers. It was an impressive effect.

Other demos better showed off the feature's application as a gameplay enhancement. One allowed us to start the engine of a supercar with the Y button, causing the Xbox One controller to cough and splutter realistically as the virtual engine sparked to life

In another section showing a close up of the vehicle's wheels, the controller pulsed to simulated bumps in the road surface, and then violently clanged as the anti-lock breaks kicked in.

Finally, a simple demo featuring a human figure caused the controller to simulate a heartbeat, directly on the corresponding spot of the pad on the top right hand corner. It's been suggested the subtlety of Xbox One's force feedback could be used to find secrets of even indicate the direction of enemy fire in next-gen games.

Every journalist we spoke to at Microsoft's Redmond event agreed; the Xbox One controller feels like a big improvement over its 360 predecessor.

In comfort, the pad's handles feel more angular and better defined, screw holes and seam lines have been removed and the 360's bulky battery pack has been rotated 90 degrees and absorbed inside the controller. The latter means the Xbox One pad feels lighter, with weight better distributed across the peripheral.

From a functionality perspective, fans will be pleased to hear that the much-criticised d-pad of the current console has been redesigned and now feels tighter and more accurate with buttons presses rewarded with a satisfying click. The analogue sticks too have had their dead zones minimised significantly, says Microsoft.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/408733/featur...

Sounds awesome.

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[quote=sanex]Very cool controller info: