Why? They both made a ton of money, moved consoles and gained a ton of fans. And there's nothing to indicate people wouldn't want more. In fact it's the opposite, people WANT more.

The game has less critical success than the last overhyped FPS this year, but this may have been the biggest launch next to GTA V. A sequel, expansion or whatever next iteration will have a sizable following based on Bungie fans and new Destiny fans. I don't think this series is close to going away, despite not living up to its potential.

Jury is out on whether I'll still be playing when the first of the expansion pass DLC drops. The expansion pass would need to have as much content as the full game to be worth it, and they already stated we won't be getting new worlds in this one.

It plays like the best console fps of all time, which really makes this a difficult game to evaluate. I think 2014 should be known for more than just remasters. It also has some fun games packed with too little content/variety. Titanfall, Infamous, and now Destiny off the top of my head.

I got an Exotic Weapon Bounty, and it's got so much shit to complete it's not even worth it.

- Complete Moon Strike (easy)
- Get 500 Moon Hive kills (alright)
- Earn 500 Void Damage points in Crucible (if you die you lose 2pts) WTF
- Complete a level 26 Strike without dying (are you insane Bungie??)

Well the game does just hand out Exotics. And Legendaries. Only problem is that the loot system is so non-linear it's a joke. I've picked up 12 Legendary Engrams and only received 2 Legendary items that weren't even for my class. The rest were useless low level Rares and Uncommons, which is pitiful given how infrequent they drop.

This game also has the worst RPG economy I've ever seen. It's a great shooter trapped in a pay to win model that they're too nervous to ask for money for. The fact that the vendors cap out is the real problem. Glimmer is useless now and the Marks are limited to 100 per week.

The chests don't drop anything good, the bosses don't drop anything good, and the Raid apparently doesn't give out class specific items either. It is completely random. Almost as if it's just certain players' Destiny!

I'm not actually too upset that this is the requirements to get this Exotic, I'm upset that it's the only item prospect I've had since hitting level 20! And that there's only 5 bounty slots and this thing is taking up one of them. Really poor system choices.

I've been seeing a couple players per match just staying still and getting killed. I never realized why until I saw them get Legendary Engrams. You have players who are just leaving their controller on the couch because they get just as much reward as playing the game...

If they're at level 20+ they clearly have been playing. The point is the game gives you better gear/weapons for NOT playing the game, which is a poorly designed aspect. It's sheer random luck, no rewards to skill or planning.

Every upgrade item (Ascendant Shards, Strange Coins, etc) should be available to be earned/bought as well. That's another huge annoyance. Where most RPGs have you crafting up better items by tearing the others down or merging other elements, this game just requires random chance for everything. It boggles the mind.

I'm sure idling will get patched, but they need to address so many other concerns while their at it. And they still haven't released official patch notes on what they changed in 1.03.

I find this an oddly fascinating and addictive game. Nearly every comment I've seen about why someone doesn't like it totally makes sense and stands up. The list of stuff that needs changing, fixing, doing in order to improve the game is massive and largely merited. Some of it even to "how the hell did they not think of this before?" levels. All that said, it's the first console game I've really gotten in to since Bioshock: Infinite. Those who love it must be doing so in spite of the flaws.

Some caveats, I am more tolerant of faults than most. I am predisposed to play any Bungie game. Been playing mostly solo on 360 and only just hit level 20 although not finished the story yet, I've got a good half dozen story missions left at least. I played WoW to like level 10 and no further so MMO mechanics don't feel overly tired to me.

Defining the game has been hard for many but I'm fairly clear in my head that it is definitely an acquired taste. I tend to think of it in terms of blended Scottish whisky where by it's obvious influences are the single malts, Halo, CoD, Borderlands & WoW. If you can appreciate all of those in their own ways, then there is a chance you might like the combination thereof that is Destiny assuming the bits they left out or compromised upon were't critical to your enjoyment. If on the other hand you like one or more of the above to the exclusion of one or more of the others, say love Halo but hate ADS. Love CoD precisely because it isn't bullet spongey, Destiny likely isn't for you. The people who do love it will probably play it for ages. If this is truly the game Bungie wanted to make then I have to doff my cap to them in a way because the way I see it, they've spent a huge amount of money making a game for demonstrably narrower audience than any one of those previous. You can argue with a lot of the decisions they've made but some of them are clearly deliberate rather than oversights.

What is clearly a deliberate decision is relegating the narrative to the background somewhat. What is a daft decision is not being able to dig into the lore in game. The game is full of these contradictions.

I find Pants comments intriguing because one of those other deliberate decisions was to place the emphasis on the game post the soft level cap. Levels 1-20 feel a bit of a footnote in the grand scheme of things. Whether I'm still playing after bashing away at that for a couple more weeks is probably the million dollar question but it's clearly their intention to get everyone on the hunt for light sooner rather than later so I can understand why progress after this point is supposed to be hard going. Which is not to say it should be as frustrating as he recants. The only legendary item I've got at the minute is from my faction but I'm still on the story which I've long since outgrown level wise and just getting a load of moody gear. I need a bigger vault for an alt.

I could probably forgive a lot of this game's faults if the loot system weren't so poorly conceived. With this system in place they should have lowered the Rank requirements to buy gear, I'm level 2 in Vanguard/Faction, and you need to be Level 3 to buy weapons. I don't think most people will stick it out, and it's the ONLY reliable way to get good gear. Or they could have even made higher level engrams available to purchase, but they don't.

I've collected 35 Legendary Engrams and gotten 1 piece of usable gear from them, that's appalling. These are the rarest of rare drops, and they give you useless gear 34/35 times. To put it in perspective I have more of the rarer Exotic weapons (3) than I do Legendary (2 as of last night). It's pretty ridiculous and I don't understand the thinking behind it. If it weren't for playing Control/Skirmish with friends I'd definitely have given this up. I don't know if I'll be playing by the time they finally add Iron Banner to Crucible, and I've been looking forward to that since the beta ended.

Yeah, the legendary engram thing is an appalling mis-communication. They are basically lottery tickets and should be communicated as such but we've all been shown to think they are something else by the manner in which the blues and greens work.

It seems to take an inordinate amount of time to level up the Vanguard rep as well. One thing that totally isn't obvious is that if you sign on with a faction, you no longer accrue normal Vanguard rep so all the bounties I've been turning in have been going to FWC. Even then, it takes a long time to get to Vanguard Rank 2 (is there any point to Rank 1 at all?). I guess Bungie were intending to buy armor first as it has light but it should be a bit more obvious that saving the marks for rank 3 and a weapon is likely to be sub optimal.

The story missions have been better after Venus though.

After Venus is only 1/4 of the game! I do like the Queen's Missions structure, it's a step in the right direction and how the game should have always been. You complete Queen's Bounties and earn Mission "tokens" that allow you to play a Very Hard mission and earn a guaranteed Legendary item. Rewarding players for doing something that takes skill vs random = good job Bungie.