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Oooh, those NiGHTS screens are a huge improvement art wise over the dreadful first level they showed.

I will wrestle myself to the ground if I even remotely click those links kenshin, ye diabolic temptress!

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Nights does look a tad better in those screens.. still looks a little rough around the edges.. but it is a Wii game. Not an attack on the platform--but it's obviously not packing the visual punch of other systems. All things considered, it's looking pretty good to me.

MP3.. no comment. And who cares.. PEACH!

Dammit, now I need a Wii. I'm only buying Smash and Nights though.. so I can still wait it out a little longer.

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"Super Mario Galaxy makes most hi-def games look about as solid and convincing as photographs pasted onto empty cereal packets."

In short; being on the Wii is not an excuse for NiGHTS to look poor. Especially considering the gameplay is utterly traditional, so strides aren't really being made there either.

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A.S.H looks frikkin awesome, needless to say i now own a DS for this game in paticular, hopefully the English translation will be quick, maybe mistwalker will have it ready at the same time.

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A.S.H looks frikkin awesome, needless to say i now own a DS for this game in paticular, hopefully the English translation will be quick, maybe mistwalker will have it ready at the same time.

did u check if the DS is region free like you asked me ?

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did u check if the DS is region free like you asked me ?

the DS is region free

@Simon
Coward :p

Well to be honest, if I had a Wii sitting in front of me, I would probably have skipped on watching it too :p

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It's region free, like all handhelds yeah. If you can deal with the japanese text then you're set.

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the DS is region free

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Well to be honest, if I had a Wii sitting in front of me, I would probably have skipped on watching it too :p

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It's region free, like all handhelds yeah. If you can deal with the japanese text then you're set.

That's great,

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oh yeah, first? Gameplay footage of Sonic & Mario
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaEO6zJ2Uzw

Nintendo fixing games confirmed. Mario keeping up with Sonic? LOL :P

Also, Nintendo Power gave MP3 a 10/10. The last game they gave a 10 to was RE4 on the Cube.

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That's because of great art direction, but the fact is you can still tell it's running on old hardware. I don't believe for a second for a second that SMG is actually a better looking game on any technical level than many an Xbox 360 game. I'll believe that when I see it first hand, running on a 720p+ screen and not looking like a jaggy ugly mess.

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@ Grift

Well, proper Wii games haven't really been jaggy, Monkey Ball for instance looks absolutely pin sharp in fact. Truth is though that even Secret Rings looks vastly more impressive than NiGHTS 2 does so far, even on a technical level. Being on the Wii simply isn't an excuse for it looking like a scarce, blocky, low res textured mess.

But enough of that, we'll see how it turns out. Mario Galaxy is everything I want a NiGHTS sequel to be anyway, so I'm not even sure I'll be all that devastated if it ends up a bit wank.

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Good start then. :D
Really seems like the story is starting to set up Super Metroid now too, with the Aurora computers introduced properly. The Mother Brain was almost definitely an Aurora. The phazon soldier stuff sounds like all hell will break loose too. I hope it's hueege, because I honestly don't really want it to end. :(

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I find that really hard to believe. Anything running @ 640x480 on a 1280x720+ display, without high levels of AA, is going to be jaggy. There's no magic way around that. I'm sure they look better on some displays than others (as all 480p sources do) but simply put, 480p is 480p.

I use a 1920x1200 display for my 360, and 720p games w/ 4xAA still have noticeable aliasing. There's no way Wii games wouldn't.. unless they're like.. magic. Well--I take that back. It depends on the display--it could very easily look like a blurry mess instead.

And in a screen shot, Sonic would be pretty easy to pick apart too. I'm sure Nights looks pretty good in person/motion too....

Is that really that much more impressive than the latest batch of Nights screens? Looks pretty decent at its native resolution.. unfortunately most displays we're using these days aren't 640x480. I think Nights is at least comparable.. looks pretty solid for what it is.

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I find that [i]really[/i] hard to believe.  Anything running @ 640x480 on a 1280x720+ display, without high levels of AA, is going to be jaggy.  There's no magic way around that.  I'm sure they look better on some displays than others (as all 480p sources do) but simply put, 480p is 480p.

I use a 1920x1200 display for my 360, and 720p games w/ 4xAA still have noticeable aliasing.  There's no way Wii games wouldn't.. unless they're like.. magic.  Well--I take that back.  It depends on the display--it could very easily look like a blurry mess instead.

And in a screen shot, Sonic would be pretty easy to pick apart too.  I'm sure Nights looks pretty good in person/motion too....

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/Grift/932811_20070219_screen003.jpg[/IMG]

Is that really that much more impressive than the latest batch of Nights screens?  Looks pretty decent at its native resolution.. unfortunately most displays we're using these days aren't 640x480.  I think Nights is at least comparable.. looks pretty solid for what it is.

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Well, personaly, I make a distinction between jaggies and simply low res. Look at God of War and compare it to Tomb Raider Anniversary or Devil May Cry 1. If you think GoW looks "jaggy" then fair enough. I really don't.

Wii games have some really good progressive scan/widescreen support and nice filtering/AA capabilities that make games look NOTICABLE sharper than both Xbox and Cube games in similar modes. Fire up Monkey Ball on a nice HDTV and I challenge you to think it looks anything but sharp.

Secret Rings does look quite significantly better than NiGHTS yeah. You can prolly tell if you look at videos of both, especially the moments when you're launched insanely high up in the air (or you're - say - surfing on a cannon ball) and you can see the whooole level without a hint of slow down. It's really very impressive, and easily the best looking Wii game released so far. All the textures are more elaborate and have more detail, and even though individual structures look similar, there's just SO MUCH MORE STUFF in Sonic's levels.

That said, the glimpse we've seen of the Puffy boss level looks far better than everything else shown of NiGHTS so far, so it could still end up a nice looking game overall. Sonic has some less inspired moments too, for sure.

Night Palace in Secret Rings.. pretty much blows every other level away though.

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Wii games have some really good progressive scan/widescreen support and nice filtering/AA capabilities that make games look NOTICABLE sharper than both Xbox and Cube games in similar modes. Fire up Monkey Ball on a nice HDTV and I challenge you to think it looks anything but sharp.

Secret Rings does look quite significantly better than NiGHTS yeah. You can prolly tell if you look at videos of both, especially the moments when you're launched insanely high up in the air (or you're - say - surfing on a cannon ball) and you can see the whooole level without a hint of slow down. It's really very impressive, and easily the best looking Wii game released so far. All the textures are more elaborate and have more detail, and even though individual structures look similar, there's just SO MUCH MORE STUFF in Sonic's levels.

That said, the glimpse we've seen of the Puffy boss level looks far better than everything else shown of NiGHTS so far, so it could still end up a nice looking game overall. Sonic has some less inspired moments too, for sure.

Night Palace in Secret Rings.. pretty much blows every other level away though.

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Sharpness and jaggies are totally different, i would have to agree with grift on this, HDTV's have a habbit of picking up the smallest problems and making them look twice as bad.

Goes without saying that the Wii doesn't look anywhere near as jaggie as the PS2 though.

I would say it looks about the same as most Xbox 1 games though, in terms on AA.

I use a 1920x1200 display for my 360, and 720p games w/ 4xAA still have noticeable aliasing. There's no way Wii games wouldn't.. unless they're like.. magic. Well--I take that back. It depends on the display--it could very easily look like a blurry mess instead.

If you play PC games at 1920x1200 then you are obviously more sensitive to jaggies, which seems to be common in PC gamers.

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If you play PC games at 1920x1200 then you are obviously more sensitive to jaggies, which seems to be common in PC gamers.

Actually, to some extent, my monitor makes me more tolerant of them. I wish my hardware could keep up with that resolution, but when it comes to more recent games, it really doesn't. Early DX9 hardware really isn't fast enough to keep up with 1650x1080 even.. AA makes it pretty bearable though. And while not widescreen, 1600x1200 looks pretty sharp still.

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http://www.tehgamr.com/2007/08/19/first-hour-of-me...

For those interested--the URL is pretty self explanatory. I may actually peep it a bit, never have been too keen on the "First Person Adventure" style of Metroid Prime, but I'd like to see what separates this one from the previous entries in the franchise.

Well, the controls seem interesting.. it's chock-full-o-waggle.

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Well, the controls seem interesting.. it's chock-full-o-waggle.

indeed it is :p

I went by a few of my local EB/GS's, none of them had it up and running yet, but they all said they would sometime this week or the following.

Anyway, GT has their MP3 Preview Up
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23758.html

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http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/25/pax-07-hands-on-...

This thread got pushed off the front page for the first time in a while .

I'll admit--I haven't finished a Zelda game since the NES days--yeah, I know! But I still want this. The DS totally has priority over the Wii for me. Getting one ASAP.

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Hmm can't believe you haven't played Zelda:TWW that was an awesome game, this looks very much like that, the DS still amazes me at what it can do in 3D.

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http://wii.ign.com/articles/815/815424p1.html
IGN's MP3 Review

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3162330&sec=R...
1UP's MP3 Review

Can't wait to try it out sometime this week at one my local EB/GS for myself, was a tad busy with classes last week to give it a try.

@Grift
No OOT, MM, or TWW? :o

But yeah, PH is looking top notch. You buy it, you buy it now(well when it comes out)! :p

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@Grift
No OOT, MM, or TWW? :o

I haven't owned a Nintendo home console since the NES.. and I still think it's their greatest system ever by quite a large margin. The DS is close though.

I'm more concerned that I've never finished A Link to the Past than any of those games.

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I'm more concerned that I've never finished A Link to the Past than any of those games.

Maybe you should pick it up again, it's a damn good game :)

And GT has their MP3 review up
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24117.html

looks like it might be the real deal :p

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Also, looks like DQ9 is delayed in Japan till sometime in 2008.

Every other game now has a chance in Japan this Fall confirmed! :p

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