Halo 4 Thread.

Since 7249 Days

I'm not like especially concerned or anything.. just not making any assumptions of quality either.

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So 343i was actually able to get together some of the most talented people in the industry and yet, some of you guys are having serious doubts. Are you pessimists by nature or is it just me? :P

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ManThatYouFear

Since 7192 Days

Great talent does not mean great product. there can always be shit like conflicting egos etc

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1797469/

Great talent mediocre product.

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Posted by ManThatYouFear

Great talent does not mean great product. there can always be shit like conflicting egos etc

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1797469/

Great talent mediocre product.

Assumptions, nothing more. Again, IMO, no reason for being a pessimist just yet... If 343i manage to f**k it up completely, which I doubt, then I'll glady admit I was wrong though.

Also, haven't seen that movie yet, so it's not my place to judge.

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ManThatYouFear

Since 7192 Days

Hey I'm not saying it's going to be shit, i have faith it's going to be better than 2-3-odst-reach, i don't believe bungie had what it took to carry it on in the end.. specially after they raped there own lore just to throw out reach (no matter how good it was the fucked the lore)
They gave us some fantastic features.. for "community" but single player aspect was just..well yeah meh.

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Apologies for asking, but when you mention that Bungie raped Halo lore, what are you refering to exactly? The differences between the novel Fall of Reach and Halo: Reach, when it comes to the lenght of the battle?

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GriftGFX

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I wouldn't say I'm pessimistic here. I just don't see any particular reason to get excited about such an unknown thing yet. What 343 can do for this franchise has yet to be proven, one way or the other. Handing Halo off to a new developer could mean a lot of things at the end of the day, but I think it's a distinction that's worth paying attention to. The teaser got me a little hyped, but I've had time to cool down. Trust me I want Halo 4 to be awesome.

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ManThatYouFear

Since 7192 Days

not the length of the battle and the times and dates, i will let them off, but the whole covenant landing on reach before anyone knew they was in orbit and it been team noble reporting that covenant was at reach, when in fact it was keyes and the other ship that reported it the second they slipspaced
the fact that pillar of autumn was parked up apparently for "repairs" get fucked, you telling me it took them just under a hour to drop red team off at circumference get into orbit land repair and pick up cortana (which apparently was only part of her? yet her device was fecking HUGE! and the full version in the chief is the size of a minidisk) and then escape?

there was many other, i highly advise you go to the waypoint forums to look them all up, but the one i mentioned was the one that annoyed me the most.

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Posted by GriftGFX

I wouldn't say I'm pessimistic here. I just don't see any particular reason to get excited about such an unknown thing yet. What 343 can do for this franchise has yet to be proven, one way or the other. Handing Halo off to a new developer could mean a lot of things at the end of the day, but I think it's a distinction that's worth paying attention to. The teaser got me a little hyped, but I've had time to cool down. Trust me I want Halo 4 to be awesome.

Quite honestly, the teaser did nothing for me... I only got seriously hyped about it after having seen the latest conceprt art. Not saying it was a bad teaser or anything, but it was way too sudden for me the way MS presented it at E3.

Either way, also hoping the game turns out to be awesome.

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not the length of the battle and the times and dates, i will let them off, but the whole covenant landing on reach before anyone knew they was in orbit and it been team noble reporting that covenant was at reach, when in fact it was keyes and the other ship that reported it the second they slipspaced
the fact that pillar of autumn was parked up apparently for "repairs" get fucked, you telling me it took them just under a hour to drop red team off at circumference get into orbit land repair and pick up cortana (which apparently was only part of her? yet her device was fecking HUGE! and the full version in the chief is the size of a minidisk) and then escape?

there was many other, i highly advise you go to the waypoint forums to look them all up, but the one i mentioned was the one that annoyed me the most.

I understand what you mean...

I don't have as much of a problem with it to be perfectly honest, but I truly understand where you're coming from. I've already tried over and over again to reconcile the events of the novel and the game, but it's a bit hard at times I must admit. Regardless of that, I still love Reach though.

Also, the Master Chief though, as you surely are is an easter egg, nothing more... Like the legendary ending for Halo: CE, where you see Sgt. Johnson hugging an elite. ;)

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[quote=GriftGFX]I wouldn't say I'm pessimistic here. I just don't see any particular reason to get excited about such an unknown thing yet. What 343 can do for this franchise has yet to be proven, one way or the other. Handing Halo off to a new developer could mean a lot of things at the end of the day, but I think it's a distinction that's worth paying attention to. The teaser got me a little hyped, but I've had time to cool down. Trust me I want Halo 4 to be awesome.[/quote]

Quite honestly, the teaser did nothing for me... I only got seriously hyped about it after having seen the latest conceprt art. Not saying it was a bad teaser or anything, but it was way too sudden for me the way MS presented it at E3.

Either way, also hoping the game turns out to be awesome.

[quote=ManThatYouFear]not the length of the battle and the times and dates, i will let them off, but the whole covenant landing on reach before anyone knew they was in orbit and it been team noble reporting that covenant was at reach, when in fact it was keyes and the other ship that reported it the second they slipspaced
the fact that pillar of autumn was parked up apparently for "repairs" get fucked, you telling me it took them just under a hour to drop red team off at circumference get into orbit land repair and pick up cortana (which apparently was only part of her? yet her device was fecking HUGE! and the full version in the chief is the size of a minidisk) and then escape?

there was many other, i highly advise you go to the waypoint forums to look them all up, but the one i mentioned was the one that annoyed me the most.[/quote]

I understand what you mean...

I don't have as much of a problem with it to be perfectly honest, but I truly understand where you're coming from. I've already tried over and over again to reconcile the events of the novel and the game, but it's a bit hard at times I must admit. Regardless of that, I still love Reach though.

Also, the Master Chief though, as you surely are is an easter egg, nothing more... Like the legendary ending for Halo: CE, where you see Sgt. Johnson hugging an elite. ;)

ManThatYouFear

Since 7192 Days

sgt johnson and elite, best easter egg evar :D

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Posted by ManThatYouFear

sgt johnson and elite, best easter egg evar :D

Indeed... Too bad the sequels failed to have anything even similar, but then again, both Halo 2 and Halo 3 ended with a major cliffhanger. It was probably for the best NOT to have something that would prove otherwise distracting.

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ManThatYouFear

Since 7192 Days

Pff halo 2 did not have a cliff hanger, i said it since the day i completed it "that aint a cliff hanger, they just cut the final level out the damn game"

and bungie admitted recently on there 30th ani video the final act was cut due to time and machine constraints.. they wanted the battle to end on halo 2 not 3
As i said many times before way back when.. they just forgot to tell the PR guys, all adverts all posters indicated this was war on earth, we got one poncy ass level.

Shame reach did not have a legendary ending, i was hoping for a out view of the pillar of autumn been attacked and been docked.. that would of been ace, knowing the chief was inside kicking ass.

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Yeahhhhhh...

I know what you are refering to, namely the levels cut from the final game which were going to have place supposedly on Earth; There's still references to such in the soundtrack for the game.

However, I was refering to the final scene where you see Cortana being confronted by the Gravemind... The all "Sir, finishing this fight...!!!" was lame indeed, but to this day, I still get goosebumps everytime Cortana says "Alright; Shoot...!!!" and the Lost-esquee chimes in; Awesome stuff...!!!

They later expanded what happened between that time in Halo: Evolutions BTW. :)

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ManThatYouFear

Since 7192 Days

Halo evolutions, sitting next to me at work along with The Cole Protocol
Will finish Cole then onto Evolutions :D

Yeah cortanas part was ace, the worry of if she was going to be corrupted was so annoying while waiting for the 3rd instalment, making that scene where the chief leans over to get her all the more awesome " i do know how to pick them"

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Cole Protocol is awesome IMO; Kinda underrated when compared with the novels written by Nylund, which is a shame to say the least. Buckell did a great job on that one, as well as in the story in wrote for Evolutions.

Wish he had done a better job while editing(?!) the Halo Encyclopedia... Hope the revised edition is actually worth the RPP.

When it comes to that scene in Halo 3, I am a fan as well, even though I wish that level was a bigger mindf**k for the player, especially having in mind the fact that Cortana was pretty much borderline rampant.

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ManThatYouFear

Since 7192 Days

On about been rampant she sure is on the border of her 7 year lifespan, i assume they will find forerunner/precursor tech to fix her as she is about to die in the new ones
(cryptum nods to a AI bot that is thousands of years old)

So far The Cole Protocol has been fantastic (just got to chapter 16 at dinner lol) whats the book like wrote by joe staten? harvest was it? always been put off because i blame him for the train wreck (imo) that was halo 2, i just think he kinda lost the plot, and that makes me very... weary of his book, hopefully wrong :)

Also waiting for the marvel comics to arrive... damn post service it takes 1 day to travel America and land on our shores then it takes our post force 3 weeks to get it 100 miles to my house.

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Quite honestly, I've thought about that numerous times as well... Not sure if you've seen Halo: Legends yet, but there's some pretty interesting insight going on there concerning Cortana. Before Legends, I always assumed that after interacting so much with Forerunner technology that her lifespan had been extended(?!) somewhat, especially having in mind her return to form after having experienced a "short burst" of rampancy... I mean, Mendicant Bias went rampant on the Forerunners and somehow, most likely due to the fact that he was divided into fragments by Offensive Bias, was able to recover as well.

Concerning Halo: Harvest, it's a good read as well IMO. It's probably not as sharp as Nylund's writing, from a sci-fi standpoint, but the characters are interesting enough and there's also great stuff concerning the origins of Truth, Regret and Mercy... Tartarus also plays a role, as well as Mendicant Bias; The role of the latter is ironic if you take into account his words from the Halo 3 terminals. Long story short, Staten did a good job, especially having in mind it was his first novel. I also have mixed feelings concerning Halo 2, since after meeting up with Gravemind, the game goes downhill storywise, most likely due to the already known time constrains.

BTW, if I might ask, which comic? The first part of the adaptation of the Fall of Reach novel? :)

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Quite honestly, I've thought about that numerous times as well... Not sure if you've seen Halo: Legends yet, but there's some pretty interesting insight going on there concerning Cortana. Before Legends, I always assumed that after interacting so much with Forerunner technology that her lifespan had been extended(?!) somewhat, especially having in mind her return to form after having experienced a "short burst" of rampancy... I mean, Mendicant Bias went rampant on the Forerunners and somehow, most likely due to the fact that he was divided into fragments by Offensive Bias, was able to recover as well.

Concerning Halo: Harvest, it's a good read as well IMO. It's probably not as sharp as Nylund's writing, from a sci-fi standpoint, but the characters are interesting enough and there's also great stuff concerning the origins of Truth, Regret and Mercy... Tartarus also plays a role, as well as Mendicant Bias; The role of the latter is ironic if you take into account his words from the Halo 3 terminals. Long story short, Staten did a good job, especially having in mind it was his first novel. I also have mixed feelings concerning Halo 2, since after meeting up with Gravemind, the game goes downhill storywise, most likely due to the already known time constrains.

BTW, if I might ask, which comic? The first part of the adaptation of the Fall of Reach novel? :)

Doom_Bringer

Since 6572 Days

Microsoft did a great job hyping up the event, I once again want a 360 really bad just for the Halo series

I really hope Halo 4 is for Xbox 720 though, imagine a Halo game with Crysis like graphics running at 60 FPS...oh my!

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GriftGFX

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Yea that's not going to happen. Halo 4 comes out in 2012.

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Posted by Doom_Bringer

Microsoft did a great job hyping up the event, I once again want a 360 really bad just for the Halo series

I really hope Halo 4 is for Xbox 720 though, imagine a Halo game with Crysis like graphics running at 60 FPS...oh my!

Are you being ironic or plain serious? The reason I ask is because Halo 4 was ALREADY announced for the Xbox 360. It's being developed by 343i and is slated to be released sometime next year. ;)

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Grift beat me to it.

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ManThatYouFear

Since 7192 Days

yeah the fall of reach one and a other which i cant recall what it was.. just kinda went on spending spree lol

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Yea that's not going to happen. Halo 4 comes out in 2012.

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Are you being ironic or plain serious? The reason I ask is because Halo 4 was ALREADY announced for the Xbox 360. It's being developed by 343i and is slated to be released sometime next year. ;)

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Grift beat me to it.

yeah but doom is thinking of the rumors of "what if nextbox comes intime for christmas next year with halo running on both machines, obviously upgraded for nextbox" and with that thinking in mind i would also cream.. not too interested in next gen, but fuck me that would be one way on how to kickstart it, i for one would be sold.

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Doom_Bringer

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btw the main programmer for this game is pretty hot, can't wait to see her engine on Xbox 720

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Posted by ManThatYouFear

yeah the fall of reach one and a other which i cant recall what it was.. just kinda went on spending spree lol

Bloodline? Helljumper? Either way, I know what you mean when it comes to "spending spree". ;)

yeah but doom is thinking of the rumors of "what if nextbox comes intime for christmas next year with halo running on both machines, obviously upgraded for nextbox" and with that thinking in mind i would also cream.. not too interested in next gen, but fuck me that would be one way on how to kickstart it, i for one would be sold.

Fair point. However, I doubt it will happen...

Pretty sure Halo 4 will most likely be the last BIG Xbox 360 title that MS will ever release; I could be wrong, but I doubt it. A seven year run(!!!) without the release of a new console is pretty impressive in my book, especially having in consideration that the original Xbox had a lukewarm reception at best.

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BLackHawkodst

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Posted by Doom_Bringer

btw the main programmer for this game is pretty hot, can't wait to see her engine on Xbox 720

Yeah she's hot in every way! :)

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Doom_Bringer

Since 6572 Days

is Halo 4 running off the Reach engine or will it run on a new engine? What about Halo 1 remake?

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