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Optimusv2
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I do. You're handing out advantages to those players who are already at an advantage. Good play is naturally rewarded. This is bad design.

I'm not really okay with a competitive game saying, "Hey, you're not doing to well, need some help?" I'm no more okay with it saying, "Hey, you're doing awesome! Want a rocket launcher?" Those are just busted ideas. It goes hand-in-hand with the need to incentivize. Gamer's don't appear to be motivated by their performance alone. They need to be constantly rewarded. Well that's just bad for any damn game.

People like feeling like a badass and don't particularly care about playing a structured competitive game.
http://halo.xbox.com/blogs/Headlines/post/2012/07/...
You won’t get the highest tier power weapons (e.g., rockets) in personal ordnance
So they don't just give people rockets who are already playing good. They don't give out such high tier, power weapons as personal ordinance. The higher tiered weapons are dropped in at semi randomized spawn points by the Infinity itself, of which everyone has an equally fair shot at securing for themselves.
At carefully-tuned intervals, Infinity resupplies the map with power weapons. The distance at which you can see these weapons is tuned by map. The more lethal weapons (Rocket Launcher, Scattershot, and Sniper Rifle, for instance) are always on your screen. Mid-tier weapons and grenades are not.
It sounds to me like they are being pretty thoughtful about these additions, and some are failing to acknowledge it.

And even if I don't play Halo 4 MP all that much, Grift, which I certainly will this time around, it still doesn't change the fact that these changes/additions aren't nearly as bad as some people are making them out to be. They would be disastrous for Counter-Strike, but they can work for Halo. It's not like I've never played Halo MP before, I have. It's just I've never played enough where I could legitimately call myself a halo mp gamer. For example, I've played battlefield and unreal tournament before, too, but never enough where I could ever call myself a major fan of those mp games. Quake III Arena and Counter-Strike 1.5/1.6, however, is an entirely different story altogether.
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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

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They would be disastrous for Counter-Strike, but they can work for Halo.
Seriously, again? El oh el.
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So they don't just give people rockets who are already playing good. They don't give out such high tier, power weapons as personal ordinance. The higher tiered weapons are dropped in at semi randomized spawn points by the Infinity itself, of which everyone has an equally fair shot at securing for themselves.
It's still a fundamentally busted idea. But hey, it's in good company and you're pretty good at cheer leading so take it away.
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Great to hear.




Missed this video from E3, Holy fuck at the sounds of those weapons! and you can even hear different wildlife in the forest lol..

http://uk.gamespot.com/halo-4/videos/loud-gun-game...
Just Awesome stuff!
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Optimusv2
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Yep, I stick with what I said. These things would kill counter-strike, but they can work in Halo, because Halo, let's face it, is that kind of MP game where these things can work without sinking the entire ship, and I do think you know this deep down, but are denying it for whatever reason. Judging from the majority of the feedback from people who are probably more heavily invested in Halo's MP than even you are, they are working.

It was a guarantee that the riot shield addition to cs would never be a serious part of competitive play, and if people really do end up hating these infinity ordinance drops so much that they end up creating some kind of unique play settings for those who want to do competitive play, then so be it, but I think it works, and so do many others. Even if you do play Halo MP far, farrrr more than I ever did, the basics of Halo MP gameplay, however, aren't exactly completely foreign to me. Yea, I would probably need to learn things about all the different gametypes that people such as yourself are already thoroughly familiar with, like what it takes to win a team match, points needed etc, that kind of thing, but the core gameplay isn't this miraculously complex formula.

Cheer leading, eh? Unlike a lot of other cheerleaders, I could see pretty early on that COD's MP would suck, and as a result, never bought into the hype, but I'm guessing that didn't stop you from investing serious time into COD's MP, correct?

Oh, and yes that sound is amazing. They do a bit of that audio trickery earlier in the Halo 4 SP video, when you first encounter that Promethean Knight. Notice how the sound of the watcher capturing your grenade then throwing it back at you is far more pronounced or highlighted in that first encounter, because they clearly want to highlight the significance of what's happening? Said it before, the sound design in this game is amazing.
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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

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Posté par Optimusv2
Cheer leading, eh? Unlike a lot of other cheerleaders, I could see pretty early on that COD's MP would suck, and as a result, never bought into the hype, but I'm guessing that didn't stop you from investing serious time into COD's MP, correct?
Uh, COD4 and COD2 very much don't suck.

And yeah, I'll stick with what I said too. Those concepts are fundamentally broken ideas. You don't care, but I don't need to search for a reason. You really want everything about this game to be as exciting as possible. More power to ya. There's plenty of reasons to be apprehensive about where 343 is taking their ideas from.

And here's another thing: I don't even care if Halo 4 is completely its own thing. The issues at the heart of this discussion are not that they are messing with something that I can't let go of. It's that the features they're implementing into this game are a blight on the genre. They are drinking from a tainted well.

So if you take a few steps back and look at Halo without the expectations or the hype, I still think these are terrible, broken ideas.

They are chasing that COD audience for sure.
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I wasn't referring to COD 2 or COD4, just the stuff that came afterwards. If you didn't invest serious time into the mp components of the games that followed COD4, then good for you. I'm of the mindset that this sorta thing just doesn't work in games like COD, because it gives players very little chance to really fight back. In Halo 4, you seem to always have a fighting chance, regardless of the circumstances with these new additions.

I think this stuff failing in COD isn't automatically an indication that similar things will fail in Halo 4, because Halo and COD, at their very cores, are entirely different kinds of MP experiences. Trust me, I could care less if Halo 4's MP sucks. I've never bought a Halo game for the MP, and I won't be starting now. I buy Halo games for the SP campaign. I also bought COD4 and Modern Warfare 2 purely for the SP as well. People have told me before how flawed this practice was, but I didn't really care to get into newer MP games, as I was a die hard competitive cs 1.6 player, and that was the only online fps I really needed.

Still, I have no skin in the game on the success or failure of this game's MP. In fact, MP can be an utter disappointment for all I care, and there wouldn't even be a shred of disappointment on my part. I'm just trying to be optimistic and not overreact to things that I don't feel are worth overreacting about is all. I'd be far more crushed if the SP sucked than if the MP did. However, I'm genuinely willing to give Halo MP a serious shot this time around, and am remaining optimistic about things that I don't exactly consider terrible deal breakers for an mp game such as Halo.

My biggest concern by far with Halo 4's MP is these power-ups, and certain tactical packages and support upgrades, like extra ammunition and quicker shield recharge rates. But, again, these things may just be balanced out by everything else, making the concern unnecessary in the end.
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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

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Hep Ops - GamesMaster Magazine is with you ;p

http://www.moreconsole.com/2012/06/halo-4-most-exc...
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Optimusv2
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Pretty impressive that their impression seems solely based on Spartan Ops. I think Edge has a story on Halo 4 as well, but I eagerly anticipate more news on the SP campaign. Very excited about that. Also can't wait for a Halo 4 launch trailer of some sort that hopefully includes some SP footage, and not just something live action.
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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

fabreezwait
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New Assassinations look awesome!




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Hehe, looking good.
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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

Frozpot
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Eek. I hope the slow speed of those assassinations is due to the gif...
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Oooh, Profound, isn't it?

Tinks
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I'd say it's more that it was slowed down so you can actually see what's going on, or frames have been removed for a lower media size for an easy upload
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Frozpot
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I'd say it's more that it was slowed down so you can actually see what's going on, or frames have been removed for a lower media size for an easy upload
Yeah, that's what I was hoping...
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Oooh, Profound, isn't it?

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Posté par Optimusv2
Hehe, looking good.
I dunno. Explain to me what's going on in the story? Why is the red guy killing the blue guy? Where's the backstory? The motivation?!
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I dunno. Explain to me what's going on in the story? Why is the red guy killing the blue guy? Where's the backstory? The motivation?!
Don't worry frankie promised there would be some silly shit to explain multiplayer.

They probably should have hired RoosterTeeth.
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There in training on the Infinity holodeck - Simples.....

But your only motivation should be that its fun as hell to play!! :)
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I'll answer the two of you with a single post. I really couldn't care less if Halo 4's MP sucks to high heaven. I naturally hope it turns out great, but, as I've said before, I really just care about the SP Campaign. While I may find their attempts to justify or rationalize MP by tying it to some type of fiction amusing, it really doesn't matter to me. It never has. I know I've said this before, but every single Halo game I've ever purchased, I've bought solely for the SP Campaign, and have not touched the MP portion. I'm cautiously optimistic and excited about Spartan Ops, but then nobody is expecting it to be on the level of the SP campaign, but I do appreciate the extra effort on their part to expand on the campaign style experience, however they manage to do so with Spartan Ops.

However, with that said, it would be dishonest if I didn't say that I'm becoming a bit saddened though, because I get the feeling you guys aren't even trying anymore. I hope you aren't giving up on me, because I certainly have not given up on you. If you absolutely must make fun of my excitement for Halo 4 at all costs, at least provide me with the tiny bit of decency to do so with something you know I actually care about, like the single player campaign/story for starters. I mean, trust me I understand, there's not really all that much to make fun of there, so the best bet is to instead go for the weak link, or red headed stepchild in the entire package that is Halo MP :P

PS:: Cool little trend you guys got going, also. Phaethon makes a sarcastic or derogatory comment about the game, then Grift you come in right behind him almost instantly and successfully ride the bandwagon into the sunset. You guys wouldn't happen to be coordinating your posts, now would you? How cute :) I had this hamster once, and for every major item that was located in my room (television, bed, ps1 console, etc), I matched it with a near identical item and layout location as best I could inside my hamster's rather large, pimped out cage (Honestly thought his room looked cooler than mine. TV was sure as hell better!). I even had this awesome miniature ps1 console in there with him. *sigh* Memories. RIP Ultimate Warrior. Yes, yes, I actually named him that. I was a kid, so get off my back about it already :)
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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

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I obviously care. It's just I've seen all of you guys blow games out of the water with hype these past 2,000+ days that I have to say something, and I'm saying it all at once to make up for it. My latest example:

Footage of Optimus moments after picking up Halo 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=LLKlP6asQLKxPI-J...
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lol wtf @ that turtle :o


Still, on a more serious note, a little excitement over a new piece of entertainment never hurts. :)
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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

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Behind the scenes in Forward Unto Dawn.

I cannot wait to watch these mini episodes!!

http://www.halodestiny.net/news-2063-les-coulisses...
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Redneck
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I obviously care. It's just I've seen all of you guys blow games out of the water with hype these past 2,000+ days that I have to say something, and I'm saying it all at once to make up for it. My latest example:

Footage of Optimus moments after picking up Halo 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=LLKlP6asQLKxPI-J...
So...you think Optimus will moan in grief or groan in pleasure?!
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Director Stewart Hendler, who previously made the horror movie “Sorority Row” and science-fiction Web series “H+,” said his goal was to temper a franchise known in the game world for over-the-top action and grandiose plots.

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“I wanted to bring a sense of reality and gravity to the world,” he explained while editing the series in a North Hollywood office. “Everything from the performances to the aesthetics should be tethered to a sense of authenticity and grittiness.”

Key to that ambition, the filmmakers said, was using computer effects as little as possible. All the “Halo” hardware — from Master Chief’s armor to the “MA5” gun, Warthog vehicle, and Pelican drop ship — was made with real materials.

“Our hope is that nobody will look at a frame of this and go, ‘Oh, that’s a green screen,’” said producer Josh Feldman. “We built a disproportionate amount of our sets and brought in a visual effects supervisor who won an Emmy for ‘The Pacific.’”

An inspiration, the filmmakers said, has been the popular live-action commercials used to promote previous “Halo” games. An ad for 2009’s “Halo 3: ODST” helped to win director Rupert Sanders the director’s job on this summer’s big-budget tentpole film “Snow White and the Huntsman.”

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Badass!!!

Cant wait for this! :)
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