PRINCE OF PERSIA Thread

Since 6565 Days

I have beaten the game, and though most oy you haven't enjoyed the game it had a great time playing it.
Sure the controls make it easy and the backtrack for a lot of people may be a boring for some but I don't know how to explain that IMO is a very entertaining game. The only thing I didn't like was the ending.

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alimokrane

Since 7150 Days

DLC announced, FINALLY!
Interview with information about what's being added, including a couple of screens
http://uk.xboxlive.ign.com/articles/948/948893p1.h...

Ubisoft is a Hype generating machine but if what's mentioned in that interview is indeed right, We're in for a treat. Cant wait!

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alimokrane

Since 7150 Days

The Epilogue downloadable content has been delayed until March 5th
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/ubisoft-delays-p...

I am not sure why DLCs are being delayed so frequently lately, first tomb raider then this.......

Anyway, They still have to announce a price though. If it's more than 800MP they can keep it for all I care. Considering it's offering the same sort of value as the latest tomb raider DLC, it shouldnt be more than 800

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TheBeagle

Since 6825 Days

The delays were probably down to GTA.

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FreeSwag

Since 6444 Days

Posted by alimokrane

The Epilogue downloadable content has been delayed until March 5th
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/ubisoft-delays-p...

I am not sure why DLCs are being delayed so frequently lately, first tomb raider then this.......

Anyway, They still have to announce a price though. If it's more than 800MP they can keep it for all I care. Considering it's offering the same sort of value as the latest tomb raider DLC, it shouldnt be more than 800

ACTUALLY . . .

. . . . if it is anything more than FREE, then it is not worth the purchase.

Don't get me wrong. I loved Prince of Persia, but the game is unfinished - plain and simple.

It ends on a major cliffhanger, and as far as I am concerned, and unfinished title.

If Ubisoft charges for this DLC, which is supposed to finally provide an proper ending to Prince of Persia, it is tantamount to ripping off gamers.

It would be the worst case scenario that many gamers have worried about would come from DLC and micro-transactions: gamers being nickeled and dimed to death as games being sold to us piecemeal.

I've got no problem with DLC . . . so long as it adds something more to the game that I have already paid for. But if I pay $60 for a game, then I expect to get a full game out of the experience - not a part of a game, only to have the rest of the game sold to me for even more money down the road a few months later.

If Ubisoft is fiscally successful at getting away with selling us a full-priced game piecemeal, then by Xmas 2009, every major publisher is going to be following their lead and doing just that: $60 for part of the game on a disc, plus an extra $10 to $20 for the rest of the game via DLC. If the industry wants to talespin its way into a crash by mid-2010, that would be the quickest way to doing it.

So, as long as Prince of Persia: Epilogue is free, then it's worth getting. The way I see it, I already paid for it when I purchased the disc.

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[quote=alimokrane]The Epilogue downloadable content has been delayed until March 5th
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/ubisoft-delays-prince-of-persia-dlc

I am not sure why DLCs are being delayed so frequently lately, first tomb raider then this.......

Anyway, They still have to announce a price though. If it's more than 800MP they can keep it for all I care. Considering it's offering the same sort of value as the latest tomb raider DLC, it shouldnt be more than 800[/quote]
ACTUALLY . . .

. . . . if it is anything more than [b]FREE[/b], then it is not worth the purchase.

Don't get me wrong. I loved Prince of Persia, but the game is unfinished - plain and simple.

It ends on a major cliffhanger, and as far as I am concerned, and unfinished title.

If Ubisoft charges for this DLC, which is supposed to finally provide an proper ending to Prince of Persia, it is tantamount to ripping off gamers.

It would be the worst case scenario that many gamers have worried about would come from DLC and micro-transactions: gamers being nickeled and dimed to death as games being sold to us piecemeal.

I've got no problem with DLC . . . so long as it adds something more to the game that I have already paid for. But if I pay $60 for a game, then I expect to get a full game out of the experience - not a part of a game, only to have the rest of the game sold to me for even more money down the road a few months later.

If Ubisoft is fiscally successful at getting away with selling us a full-priced game piecemeal, then by Xmas 2009, every major publisher is going to be following their lead and doing just that: $60 for part of the game on a disc, plus an extra $10 to $20 for the rest of the game via DLC. If the industry wants to talespin its way into a crash by mid-2010, that would be the quickest way to doing it.

So, as long as Prince of Persia: Epilogue is free, then it's worth getting. The way I see it, I already paid for it when I purchased the disc.

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SimonM7

Since 7243 Days

Prince of Persia is set up as a trilogy; were you under the impression that the first LOTR was an unfinished movie aswell?

That's kind of a weak argument really. Epilogue will not finish up the story, it will most likely just offer some extra gameplay and perhaps even tease a sequel further.

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Driftwood

Since 7883 Days

Posted by SimonM7

Prince of Persia is set up as a trilogy; were you under the impression that the first LOTR was an unfinished movie aswell?

Not to mention the first Soul Reaver game whose end was certainly not one at all. ^^

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alimokrane

Since 7150 Days

Epilogue downloadable content to cost 800MP and will be released tomorrow March 5th

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/861108132...

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TheBeagle

Since 6825 Days

Has anyone downloaded it? I wanna check it out but I'm not sure if it will be worth the price.

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unfettered

Since 7208 Days

Posted by SimonM7

Prince of Persia is set up as a trilogy; were you under the impression that the first LOTR was an unfinished movie aswell?

That's kind of a weak argument really. Epilogue will not finish up the story, it will most likely just offer some extra gameplay and perhaps even tease a sequel further.

In all fairness, the average film lasts 90 minutes, and Fellowship of the Ring (theatrical release) lasted 178 minutes; twice as long as the average film.

The average videogame takes about 12 to 15 hours to beat, while Prince of Persia can be beaten in only 7 hours; half the time of the average videogame . . . with no multiplayer modes anywhere in sight, to extend the value of the purchase.

Under the circumstances, even if Prince of Persia told a full story and came to completion at the end of the first game, it was never worth the $60 (plus tax) Ubisoft sold it for in the first place - trilogy or not. In the end, even with Epilogue added to the package, makes it not worth the $70 price tag that Ubisoft has attached to this title.

Remember back in 2005, I complained about the price of games going from $50 (last generation) to $60 (this generation), when in actuality they should have been going down to mass market pricing like VHS once did for home video, and enticing a broader audience of consumers to the videogaming hobby. I complained once again a year later, when the length of games began to shorten below the 15 to 20 hour mark. So now in 2009, we are already paying 20% more money for what on average, amounts to 25% less game. Now apparently that too is not good enough (for Ubisoft at least) and the plan is to charge us $60 for a 7 hour game, and then nickel & dime us to death at $10 a pop (pun intended), using the unfinished story in the single-player campaign, like a carrot dangled in front of a donkey.

If everyone is okay with that, then fine I guess - I know that people like me, who are very money concious (doubly so since getting laid of for Christmas), wven when it comes to our hobbies, are likely in the minority anyways. Even so, you have to consider that at this rate, one can see by the end of this generation how gamers will be forced to the point of paying $100 for 15 to 20 worth of game. Considering the average game last generation was 15 to 20 for only $50, it just looks like we are getting royally reamed.

I would think that with the current economic state that people would be looking for ways to maximize their spending, not sit idly by while greedy companies come up with craftier ways to rip everyone off.

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[quote=SimonM7]Prince of Persia is set up as a trilogy; were you under the impression that the first LOTR was an unfinished movie aswell?

That's kind of a weak argument really. Epilogue will not finish up the story, it will most likely just offer some extra gameplay and perhaps even tease a sequel further.[/quote]
In all fairness, the average film lasts 90 minutes, and [i]Fellowship of the Ring[/i] (theatrical release) lasted 178 minutes; twice as long as the average film.

The average videogame takes about 12 to 15 hours to beat, while [i]Prince of Persia[/i] can be beaten in only 7 hours; half the time of the average videogame . . . with no multiplayer modes anywhere in sight, to extend the value of the purchase.

Under the circumstances, even if [i]Prince of Persia[/i] told a full story and came to completion at the end of the first game, it was never worth the $60 (plus tax) Ubisoft sold it for in the first place - trilogy or not. In the end, even with [i]Epilogue[/i] added to the package, makes it not worth the $70 price tag that Ubisoft has attached to this title.

Remember back in 2005, I complained about the price of games going from $50 (last generation) to $60 (this generation), when in actuality they should have been going down to mass market pricing like VHS once did for home video, and enticing a broader audience of consumers to the videogaming hobby. I complained once again a year later, when the length of games began to shorten below the 15 to 20 hour mark. So now in 2009, we are already paying 20% more money for what on average, amounts to 25% less game. Now apparently that too is not good enough (for Ubisoft at least) and the plan is to charge us $60 for a 7 hour game, and then nickel & dime us to death at $10 a pop (pun intended), using the unfinished story in the single-player campaign, like a carrot dangled in front of a donkey.

If everyone is okay with that, then fine I guess - I know that people like me, who are very money concious (doubly so since getting laid of for Christmas), wven when it comes to our hobbies, are likely in the minority anyways. Even so, you have to consider that at this rate, one can see by the end of this generation how gamers will be forced to the point of paying $100 for 15 to 20 worth of game. Considering the average game last generation was 15 to 20 for only $50, it just looks like we are getting royally reamed.

I would think that with the current economic state that people would be looking for ways to maximize their spending, not sit idly by while greedy companies come up with craftier ways to rip everyone off.

alimokrane

Since 7150 Days

Havent Bought it yet but here is the review of the DLC by Eurogamer 5/10
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/prince-of-persia...

Considering they actually gave the game a 6/10 and I quite enjoyed it, I think I will jump in anyway :D

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Driftwood

Since 7883 Days

I think I'd be interested in your opinion. I loved the game but I'm having second thoughts about getting the DLC.

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TheBeagle

Since 6825 Days

That review has made my decision for me. I will definately not be getting this.

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alimokrane

Since 7150 Days

Posted by Driftwood

I think I'd be interested in your opinion. I loved the game but I'm having second thoughts about getting the DLC.

Certainly drift. I will be playing this tonight hopefully and will post my impressions straight after.

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alimokrane

Since 7150 Days

So I FINALLY had the time to sit down properly and play Prince of Persia: Epilogue. I finished in under 2 Hours and I thought it was worth the 800MP.

Anyone expecting a good closure for the game would be VERY disappointed, the DLC leaves you hanging more than the ending of the game itselft but at least it sort of tells you what to expect in terms of how the next game is probably going to start.

The ending was very short and I thought they could have possibly explored it a little bit more. The disappointing bit for me here is that it was pretty much emotionless unlike the ending of the game. After playing this, I believe ending the game like they did was a MUCH MUCH better decision.

Gameplay, I thought was fantastic here. The acrobatic sequences are definately longer and quite harder and the music was set to adapt REALLY well to how fast you're breezing through it. I found myself smiling through some of them. They give a sort of a rush which was quite fun. Music, very good as always.

You will be fighting quite bit here to be honest and it's the same sort of difficulty you'd expect going by the game itself, perhaps just a bit harder. The final encouter was quite difficult though. Some nice twists in combat here and there and the addition of the rush move has its charms but it fails to impress and sometimes is quite USELESS. Puzzles are quite simple and to be honest, not sure if they can even be called puzzles. There is NO BACKTRACKING, NO COLLECTING LIGHT SEEDS or NO HEALING of the land which I thought was a relief.

All in all, being a big fan of the franchise, I enjoyed this quite a bit and I am satisfied in terms of value. If you enjoyed the game, you'll certainly love this. If you hated the game, of course don't bother with this.

I can't wait for the sequel.

There you have it, it's time for you to make your own decisions. No reiview will make that for you, The eurogamer review certainly didnt stir me away from geting it and I am glad I jumped in.

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So I FINALLY had the time to sit down properly and play Prince of Persia: Epilogue. I finished in under 2 Hours and I thought it was worth the 800MP.

Anyone expecting a good closure for the game would be VERY disappointed, the DLC leaves you hanging more than the ending of the game itselft but at least it sort of tells you what to expect in terms of how the next game is probably going to start.

The ending was very short and I thought they could have possibly explored it a little bit more. The disappointing bit for me here is that it was pretty much emotionless unlike the ending of the game. After playing this, I believe ending the game like they did was a MUCH MUCH better decision.

Gameplay, I thought was fantastic here. The acrobatic sequences are definately longer and quite harder and the music was set to adapt REALLY well to how fast you're breezing through it. I found myself smiling through some of them. They give a sort of a rush which was quite fun. Music, very good as always.

You will be fighting quite bit here to be honest and it's the same sort of difficulty you'd expect going by the game itself, perhaps just a bit harder. The final encouter was quite difficult though. Some nice twists in combat here and there and the addition of the rush move has its charms but it fails to impress and sometimes is quite USELESS. Puzzles are quite simple and to be honest, not sure if they can even be called puzzles. There is NO BACKTRACKING, NO COLLECTING LIGHT SEEDS or NO HEALING of the land which I thought was a relief.

All in all, being a big fan of the franchise, I enjoyed this quite a bit and I am satisfied in terms of value. If you enjoyed the game, you'll certainly love this. If you hated the game, of course don't bother with this.

I can't wait for the sequel.

There you have it, it's time for you to make your own decisions. No reiview will make that for you, The eurogamer review certainly didnt stir me away from geting it and I am glad I jumped in.

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SimonM7

Since 7243 Days

It's been a long time coming because there were just way too many games last year, but after having nibbled a bit at the game earlier this year and decided my first impressions were good, I recently sold the normal copy and picked up the absolutely rediculously snazzy Play.com edition which they have back in stock (or did a little while ago anyhoo). That should be arriving tomorrow or tuesday unless somebody somewhere messed up, and I've finally got the runway clear for its arrival and subsequent playthrough. (Finished Halo Wars minutes ago)

I'll be able to offer my complete view on the whole PoP controversy by the weekend if everything goes to plan.

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SimonM7

Since 7243 Days

And just because I even mentioned things going to plan, they didn't in a thrilling, unsuspected way!

Play sent me what has to be a playtrade item by mistake. Box was open, scratch card used, fingerprints all over and dents from what appear to be text scribbles on the sexy LE cover. The game itself within the LE box was sealed, bizarrely enough, but the rest was clearly used and in pretty terrible order.

Soooo my non-playing of PoP continues. Sent it back today to get a new one, will probably complete NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams while I wait for what's hopefully a brand new, sealed copy of PoP.

Oh and NiGHTS: JoD is very nice, I might add.

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alimokrane

Since 7150 Days

Posted by SimonM7

And just because I even mentioned things going to plan, they didn't in a thrilling, unsuspected way!

Play sent me what has to be a playtrade item by mistake. Box was open, scratch card used, fingerprints all over and dents from what appear to be text scribbles on the sexy LE cover. The game itself within the LE box was sealed, bizarrely enough, but the rest was clearly used and in pretty terrible order.

Soooo my non-playing of PoP continues. Sent it back today to get a new one, will probably complete NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams while I wait for what's hopefully a brand new, sealed copy of PoP.

Oh and NiGHTS: JoD is very nice, I might add.

That's a pretty big screw up on their part. Sorry to hear that mate. You might want to go for the standard edition (a new one) which will come WITH the downloadable content!

http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-/8986085/Princ...

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SimonM7

Since 7243 Days

Well, I actually had the normal edition, then sold that to get the LE one when they restocked that, so the whole point of my venture was to get the snazzy LE box. :)

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alimokrane

Since 7150 Days

Posted by SimonM7

Well, I actually had the normal edition, then sold that to get the LE one when they restocked that, so the whole point of my venture was to get the snazzy LE box. :)

fair enough but I thought getting the downloadable content with it is mch better value than a snazzy box ;)

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SimonM7

Since 7243 Days

I suppose it kinda is, but I'll grab the DLC off the Marketplace eventually, whereas I can't really upgrade to a snazzy box later on. :D

I sent the Play item back and they were out of the LE for good this time which resulted in a money refund. So, I took that money and ran over to www.game.net which have their own version of the LE which sadly doesn't include the skin unlocks nor the graphic novel, but instead the cover is actually a steelbook design. It's decorated with the same motif that the Play version has, but instead of hiding a normal box inside, this is the actual steelbook that looks like that. It's gorgeous and I'm quite satisfied. :D

And I recieved it today! Finally I'll be able to play this game properly. Ironically a GOTY list for 2008 wasn't to be this year either, I always come across some kind of nnsurmountable hurdles that prevent me from typing one up. I can say that both this and Banjo will position themselves in quite a competitive way in retrospect. I think Banjo is fantastic, and the little I played of PoP before I decided to get the LE left a very good impression aswell.

In a week or so I'll prolly be able to finally say my piece on Prince of Persia, however irrelevant my opinion may technically be by then. :D

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I suppose it kinda is, but I'll grab the DLC off the Marketplace eventually, whereas I can't really upgrade to a snazzy box later on. :D

I sent the Play item back and they were out of the LE for good this time which resulted in a money refund. So, I took that money and ran over to www.game.net which have their own version of the LE which sadly doesn't include the skin unlocks nor the graphic novel, but instead the cover is actually a steelbook design. It's decorated with the same motif that the Play version has, but instead of hiding a normal box inside, this is the actual steelbook that looks like that. It's gorgeous and I'm quite satisfied. :D

And I recieved it today! Finally I'll be able to play this game properly. Ironically a GOTY list for 2008 wasn't to be this year either, I always come across some kind of nnsurmountable hurdles that prevent me from typing one up. I can say that both this and Banjo will position themselves in quite a competitive way in retrospect. I think Banjo is fantastic, and the little I played of PoP before I decided to get the LE left a very good impression aswell.

In a week or so I'll prolly be able to finally say my piece on Prince of Persia, however irrelevant my opinion may technically be by then. :D

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alimokrane

Since 7150 Days

Cant wait to read your impressions so There you have at least one motive to write it up ;)

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SimonM7

Since 7243 Days

I, it's, haha. I think this is really good. :D

I'm gonna write a mini review for it when I'm done.

I feel that this is my new Amped 3 too, I won't put this game down until I've got every damn achievement.

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alimokrane

Since 7150 Days

Prince of persia game + DLC Game £10 from play.com

At this price, you'd be crazy not to get it!
http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-/8986085/Princ...

Same goes for the PS3 version
http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4-/8986149/...

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SimonM7

Since 7243 Days

Something funky is going on. I was gonna jump on it and give it to a friend, but when you add it to your cart it goes up to 32 euro.

Edit: hmm, doesn't happen to the PS3 version though. Might get that then for my OTHER friend. :O

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