The XbOne Yard

Since 6467 Days

Posted by gym4life

True, but people always buys less than stellar games at launch of a new console generation, mostly because that's all there is available, but also because of the excitement of next gen itself. For me though only Forza 5 / Battlefield 4 and Dead Rising are a lock on buy.

Very true, just look at the crap people were buying at the begining of last gen lol.

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KORNdog

Since 6985 Days

Posted by BLackHawkodst

Very true, just look at the crap people were buying at the begining of last gen lol.

that's precisely why people shouldn't be willing to do it again. did the likes of perfect dark zero not teach anyone a lesson?

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BLackHawkodst

Since 6467 Days

People get excited around the launch of a new console so its understandable they will pick up less than stellar games for it, not me though only Forza 5 and Battlefield 4 for me (and maybe project spark?).

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Jin187

Since 7325 Days

I gotta say it's great how people here feel like they need to dictate what people should and should'nt like. I mean it's crazy to think that someone else could possibly like what I dont and hate what I do!? It's mad world out there.

Posted by Megido

I'm slating a mechanich that has never been good in any game ever. The parries in SF3 is how you do it right, becasue while they nullifie combos, they also require a lot of skill to pull off, where as a combo breaker is just a quick buyout from a shitty situation that you as the player should be playing to avoid. So rather than having the players manage spacing and really consider their moves, just give em a combo breaker so taht the retarded 85 hit combo that drains 80%+ of your HP just becomes pointless. Geniious game design, truly the modern day era equivalent of chess.

The entire idea of the combo breaker is just flawed and shows how poor the fundamental mechanics are.

The more I read, the more obvious it is that you know nothing of how KI plays on any sort of decent level. Besides, combo breakers and Paries serve a completely different purpose, they are not even in the slightest bit alike :s

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I gotta say it's great how people here feel like they need to dictate what people should and should'nt like. I mean it's crazy to think that someone else could possibly like what I dont and hate what I do!? It's mad world out there.

[quote=Megido]

I'm slating a mechanich that has never been good in any game ever. The parries in SF3 is how you do it right, becasue while they nullifie combos, they also require a lot of skill to pull off, where as a combo breaker is just a quick buyout from a shitty situation that you as the player should be playing to avoid. So rather than having the players manage spacing and really consider their moves, just give em a combo breaker so taht the retarded 85 hit combo that drains 80%+ of your HP just becomes pointless. Geniious game design, truly the modern day era equivalent of chess.

The entire idea of the combo breaker is just flawed and shows how poor the fundamental mechanics are.[/quote]

The more I read, the more obvious it is that you know nothing of how KI plays on any sort of decent level. Besides, combo breakers and Paries serve a completely different purpose, they are not even in the slightest bit alike :s

GriftGFX

Since 7581 Days

Hey Jin weren't you the dude who told me that Capcom Vs. SNK 2 was terrible or something? Or was it Third Strike? I remember us having a hilarious discussion about Street Fighter once.

Just wondering :D

You can like whatever you want though. And we can still say that the game looks terrible.

Glad we sorted who thinks what. Phew!

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Jin187

Since 7325 Days

Posted by GriftGFX

Hey Jin weren't you the dude who told me that Capcom Vs. SNK 2 was terrible or something? Or was it Third Strike? I remember us having a hilarious discussion about Street Fighter once.

Just wondering :D

You can like whatever you want though. And we can still say that the game looks terrible.

Glad we sorted who thinks what. Phew!

Ha! I have never once said that Capcom Vs SNK 2 was terrible, I just said I preferred the first one which of course almost gave you a heart attack :p

Anyway, saying you dont like a game is one thing but bashing others for having an interest in that same game is something else entirely.

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Frozpot

Since 7339 Days

As Far as KI goes, it seems as though the developer is really doing their homework on retaining the draw of the original, while trying to expand it where fight fans can really dig in. I think it has potential to be a massive "sleeper", especially in the face of the initial skepticism directed at it.

Every single account I've seen by people exposed to it had them go from dubious to excited. It's pretty interesting, IMO. I've even seen some people say they now want the One solely for KI...

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Oooh, Profound, isn't it?

KORNdog

Since 6985 Days

Posted by Frozpot

I've even seen some people say they now want the One solely for KI...

Wow..lol

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Frozpot

Since 7339 Days

Posted by KORNdog

Wow..lol

Right, because you've played it? Those people had. Nice condescension though, you are awesome.

I wasn't interested at all to start, but I began watching interviews and impressions, and it is ALL positive, even from people with your reaction, initially. Even from guys who love fighting games. it doesn't sound shallow at all....

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Megido

Since 6906 Days

I have 0 doubt that it's gonna be popular. Doesn't mean it's gonna be a fundamentally good game. MK9 got tons of praise, people still play MvC3 and so forth. Hell, some people are even convinced that Smash bros is one of the most complex competitive fighters out there. You are obviously allowed to like the game, but please...just don't try to defend mechanics that are obviously just stupid, and in fact limit the player options (most likely). The entire risk/reward of combos is fucked up with the combo breaker. Basically, when should you get a combo? Well, when you play your opponent in to a situation where he eats (ie preassure, mixups and setups) it or with punishment. At that point you should get your reward for outplaying your opponent, which is a combo. But when the entire game revolves around ridiculous combos that do insane damage and a combo breaker that completely crushes that combo then you kind of have a balancing issue, no? I mean, would you please explain how the ultra combos and the combo breaker adds to the fun of the game? Other than watching your n00b frieds get creamed because they don't know when/how to break the combo? It's like spamming 10-hitters in Tekken, it's boring and dumb and it won't work against skilled players. So basically, if the other parts of the game are good then it'll probably be a sweet game but they've even said themselves that it's "all about the combos".

Froz: a sleeper? no way, everybody and his grandma will buy it and play it for a month, then we won't hear of it again until it's time for the sequel. It's gonna get raving reviews, just like crap such as MK9 or Injustice.

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I have 0 doubt that it's gonna be popular. Doesn't mean it's gonna be a fundamentally good game. MK9 got tons of praise, people still play MvC3 and so forth. Hell, some people are even convinced that Smash bros is one of the most complex competitive fighters out there. You are obviously allowed to like the game, but please...just don't try to defend mechanics that are obviously just stupid, and in fact limit the player options (most likely). The entire risk/reward of combos is fucked up with the combo breaker. Basically, when should you get a combo? Well, when you play your opponent in to a situation where he eats (ie preassure, mixups and setups) it or with punishment. At that point you should get your reward for outplaying your opponent, which is a combo. But when the entire game revolves around ridiculous combos that do insane damage and a combo breaker that completely crushes that combo then you kind of have a balancing issue, no? I mean, would you please explain how the ultra combos and the combo breaker adds to the fun of the game? Other than watching your n00b frieds get creamed because they don't know when/how to break the combo? It's like spamming 10-hitters in Tekken, it's boring and dumb and it won't work against skilled players. So basically, if the other parts of the game are good then it'll probably be a sweet game but they've even said themselves that it's "all about the combos".

Froz: a sleeper? no way, everybody and his grandma will buy it and play it for a month, then we won't hear of it again until it's time for the sequel. It's gonna get raving reviews, just like crap such as MK9 or Injustice.

Mr. Flibble is very cross

scoobs0688

Since 6215 Days

Posted by Frozpot

Right, because you've played it? Those people had. Nice condescension though, you are awesome.

I wasn't interested at all to start, but I began watching interviews and impressions, and it is ALL positive, even from people with your reaction, initially. Even from guys who love fighting games. it doesn't sound shallow at all....

I gotta jump in here, I was watching EVO last night and the segment they did for KI was unanimously booed by the crowd and it was super awkward. Twitch.tv chat was ripping it apart too, but then again they're the hardcore fighting game players that hate everything that isnt MVC and street fighter (although this is KI's target market, so that can't be a good sign). So ya... definitely not all positive reactions from the game. I will say that the particle effects look really freaking cool. The combat and the audio especially are REALLY bad imo. CCCCCCCCCCCC-c-c-c-c-c-c-C-C-C-COMBOREAKER!!! CCCCCCCCCCCC-c-c-c-c-c-c-C-C-C-COMBOREAKER!!! CCCCCCCCCCCC-c-c-c-c-c-c-C-C-C-COMBOREAKER!!!

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[quote=Frozpot]

Right, because you've played it? Those people had. Nice condescension though, you are awesome.

I wasn't interested at all to start, but I began watching interviews and impressions, and it is ALL positive, even from people with your reaction, initially. Even from guys who love fighting games. it doesn't sound shallow at all....[/quote]
I gotta jump in here, I was watching EVO last night and the segment they did for KI was unanimously booed by the crowd and it was super awkward.  Twitch.tv chat was ripping it apart too, but then again they're the hardcore fighting game players that hate everything that isnt MVC and street fighter (although this is KI's target market, so that can't be a good sign).  So ya... definitely not all positive reactions from the game.  I will say that the particle effects look really freaking cool.  The combat and the audio especially are REALLY bad imo.  CCCCCCCCCCCC-c-c-c-c-c-c-C-C-C-COMBOREAKER!!! CCCCCCCCCCCC-c-c-c-c-c-c-C-C-C-COMBOREAKER!!! CCCCCCCCCCCC-c-c-c-c-c-c-C-C-C-COMBOREAKER!!!

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KORNdog

Since 6985 Days

Posted by Frozpot

you are awesome.

I know, thanks!

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Frozpot

Since 7339 Days

Posted by scoobs0688

I gotta jump in here, I was watching EVO last night and the segment they did for KI was unanimously booed by the crowd and it was super awkward. Twitch.tv chat was ripping it apart too, but then again they're the hardcore fighting game players that hate everything that isnt MVC and street fighter (although this is KI's target market, so that can't be a good sign). So ya... definitely not all positive reactions from the game. I will say that the particle effects look really freaking cool. The combat and the audio especially are REALLY bad imo. CCCCCCCCCCCC-c-c-c-c-c-c-C-C-C-COMBOREAKER!!! CCCCCCCCCCCC-c-c-c-c-c-c-C-C-C-COMBOREAKER!!! CCCCCCCCCCCC-c-c-c-c-c-c-C-C-C-COMBOREAKER!!!

I only heard of the booing, so I don't know if it happened at the beginning of the event before people had hands on or after. I was commenting about experiences from E3 and after. I understood the Booing happened at the announce of the game at the beginning of the event. I'm sure there are plenty of people who feel much as Megido does about KI.

It looks like a lot is being added to the game, and hearing the devs talk, they are very well versed in the mechanics of the great fighters. I even heard one guy say that he got an indefinable sense of SF3 while playing and the dev said that was intentional. It's it's own beast anyway, and that's fine with me if it's a good time.

Here is one example(he got hands on right before e3, I think
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6_Ob32JScw

Invisible walls also had nothing but good things to say...

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[quote=scoobs0688]
I gotta jump in here, I was watching EVO last night and the segment they did for KI was unanimously booed by the crowd and it was super awkward.  Twitch.tv chat was ripping it apart too, but then again they're the hardcore fighting game players that hate everything that isnt MVC and street fighter (although this is KI's target market, so that can't be a good sign).  So ya... definitely not all positive reactions from the game.  I will say that the particle effects look really freaking cool.  The combat and the audio especially are REALLY bad imo.  CCCCCCCCCCCC-c-c-c-c-c-c-C-C-C-COMBOREAKER!!! CCCCCCCCCCCC-c-c-c-c-c-c-C-C-C-COMBOREAKER!!! CCCCCCCCCCCC-c-c-c-c-c-c-C-C-C-COMBOREAKER!!![/quote]

I only heard of the booing, so I don't know if it happened at the beginning of the event before people had hands on or after. I was commenting about experiences from E3 and after. I understood the Booing happened at the announce of the game at the beginning of the event. I'm sure there are plenty of people who feel much as Megido does about KI.

It looks like a lot is being added to the game, and hearing the devs talk, they are very well versed in the mechanics of the great fighters. I even heard one guy say that he got an indefinable sense of SF3 while playing and the dev said that was intentional. It's it's own beast anyway, and that's fine with me if it's a good time.

Here is one example(he got hands on right before e3, I think
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6_Ob32JScw

Invisible walls also had nothing but good things to say...

Oooh, Profound, isn't it?

raina

Since 5393 Days

Posted by GrimThorne

They didn't even have a kit, how do you make a final hardware analysis when you don't actually have hardware in your possession? Bah, it doesn't matter. lol!

As for the 7790, it's well within the realm of possibility. It has practically the same footprint and a lower TDP than the unofficial spec'd GPU. Considering how concerned MS is over efficiency and stability, it shouldn't suprise anyone if the 7790 was selected. Microsoft has been busy testing silicon and hundreds of boards at the the Xbox Labs, even after the May 21st reveal.

See the woman sitting at the table on the left? She has dozens of boards in front of her. Microsoft doesn't have to redesign another board, they already had multiple configurations-

Hundreds of variations on the X1 Prototype-

LMAO. They are testing different boards after showing the SKU and games been developed on old hardware ? Funny shit.

Get real. They can just overclock it now if it is not heating much. I am not sure it is worth the risk in case of overheating issues.

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They didn't even have a kit, how do you make a final hardware analysis when you don't actually have hardware in your possession?  Bah, it doesn't matter.  lol!

As for the 7790, it's well within the realm of possibility.  It has practically the same footprint and a lower TDP than the unofficial spec'd GPU.   Considering how concerned MS is over efficiency and stability, it shouldn't suprise anyone if the 7790 was selected.  Microsoft has been busy testing silicon and hundreds of boards at the the Xbox Labs, even after the May 21st reveal.

See the woman sitting at the table on the left?  She has dozens of boards in front of her.  Microsoft doesn't have to redesign another board, they already had multiple configurations-

[IMG]http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2013/05/dsc07136-1369122925.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2013/05/dsc07137-1369122925.jpg[/IMG]

Hundreds of variations on the X1 Prototype-

[IMG]http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2013/05/dsc07175.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2013/05/dsc07169.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

LMAO. They are testing different boards after showing the SKU and games been developed on old hardware ? Funny shit.

Get real. They can just overclock it now if it is not heating much. I am not sure it is worth the risk in case of overheating issues.

Playstation, pushing the boundries of Play.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fMRYPZ4Jek

gym4life

Since 6106 Days

I heard the booing was for Marvel turning up late.

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Phaethon360

Since 7427 Days

It was unmistakable and the Madcatz rep knew immediately it was at the Xbox One mention.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVzNxbryJ4o&feature...

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scoobs0688

Since 6215 Days

Posted by gym4life

I heard the booing was for Marvel turning up late.

It was, and that was caused by the KI presentation

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sanex

Since 5768 Days

Posted by Optimus

New Killer Instinct Glacius walkthrough. http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/58t96w/killer-i... Game looks pretty cool. Only thing I don't necessarily like so far is Glacius's design, but other than that, the game looks like fun

Looks like it could be fun, will give the demo a try.

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LEBATO

Since 7703 Days

I guess I'm the only one who thinks the graphics suck in this game?

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KORNdog

Since 6985 Days

Posted by LEBATO

I guess I'm the only one who thinks the graphics suck in this game?

Outside of the particle effects the game looks pretty 'eh'. And weirdly, in the extended demo of the mechanics even those didn't look great. Maybe just a case of sparks being more impressive then small, instantly disapearing ice chunks?

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Megido

Since 6906 Days

Posted by LEBATO

I guess I'm the only one who thinks the graphics suck in this game?

Nah, it looks pretty unremarkable, and the shite charachter design doesnt do it any favors either.

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BLackHawkodst

Since 6467 Days

Posted by sanex

Looks like it could be fun, will give the demo a try.

Yeah i'll give the demo a go.

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rayy

Since 7555 Days

Posted by LEBATO

I guess I'm the only one who thinks the graphics suck in this game?

You are not alone on that one!

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gym4life

Since 6106 Days

Looks ok, but not amazing.

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Tinks

Since 7510 Days

Impressions from comiccon on aintitcool.com

"Before I left preview night I also stopped by the Xbox One and PS4 booths to try to get some play time in. I was able to play a little bit of RYSE on the Xbox One, but was too late to play the PS4. I did get to hold the PS4 controller, though, and gotta say it's a much needed improvement over the PS3 controller. There's weight to it and the buttons seem to be slightly more intuitive although hardly changed from the previous version. It just feels neater if that makes any sense.

Xbox One's controller also had a bit more weight than its predecessor and not in a bad way. There was some funky and (I think) unneeded changes to the left and right bumpers. They're pointy now and it's not an easy, thoughtless, transition between the triggers and bumper buttons anymore. Could be my clumsy fingers weren't used to this small change, but my knee-jerk is that it's going to get annoying really fast.

It also didn't help that RYSE's playable demo was pretty lame. The graphics looked fine, but it certainly didn't blow me away. As an Xbox fanboy this was a bit of a sad end to the day, but I have both the One and PS4 pre-ordered, so I'm covered come November."

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Impressions from comiccon on aintitcool.com

"Before I left preview night I also stopped by the Xbox One and PS4 booths to try to get some play time in. I was able to play a little bit of RYSE on the Xbox One, but was too late to play the PS4. I did get to hold the PS4 controller, though, and gotta say it's a much needed improvement over the PS3 controller. There's weight to it and the buttons seem to be slightly more intuitive although hardly changed from the previous version. It just feels neater if that makes any sense.

Xbox One's controller also had a bit more weight than its predecessor and not in a bad way. There was some funky and (I think) unneeded changes to the left and right bumpers. They're pointy now and it's not an easy, thoughtless, transition between the triggers and bumper buttons anymore. Could be my clumsy fingers weren't used to this small change, but my knee-jerk is that it's going to get annoying really fast.

It also didn't help that RYSE's playable demo was pretty lame. The graphics looked fine, but it certainly didn't blow me away. As an Xbox fanboy this was a bit of a sad end to the day, but I have both the One and PS4 pre-ordered, so I'm covered come November."

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