Good Grief Grift, lol.


Anyway. We get it- You don't like it. Awesome. Do we really have to hear about it all the time? You won't want to hear it, but I actually love my Kinect- mostly for interface, but I'd be lying if I said I haven't had more than enough fun playing games on it. It's just different. It actually makes some games fun that wouldn't have been otherwise if they used a controller.

The Kinect sensor is a PART OF THE CONSOLE and it's design philosophy. Don't buy it if it's not your thing. There are other options, but there are plenty of people who ARE interested in keeping the machine consistent. God, I hope they don't remove the sensor- it just becomes boring and exactly like everything else. If you want a console without it, go Playstation or Nintendo. No one is stopping you.

Fuck I'm sick of hearing the same shit in these threads over and over. It's bordering on trolldom, and is diminishing my enjoyment of the site. I miss the excitement of new consoles. It's not about everything having to be cheerleading, either. We've had the discussion, and people just popping into the forum to spout how much they don't like it is getting tedious. Oh wait.. I get to hear about how Korn won't buy it unless they remove the sensor again!? YAY!

Please let Gamescom give us something else to talk about..

But they're so damn close to doing it. Everything that has happened in the past 2 months, all the 180's and back peddling, it's down to people being vocal about what they don't want. MS has taken a half step in the right direction, they've stopped kinect being needed, it's gone from the forever watching camera, to the thing people can keep in the box and never look at again. If they're making the camera optional for function, then a bit more pushing and they'll have a SKU with no kinect at all. If you looooove kinect so much, then buy the version with kinect that costs more money, i'm sure they'll have one and clearly you'll love it. But for those that don't (of which there are a many) they should give us the option. People don't want that POS and certainly don't want to pay extra for it.

No, that's literally a DVD in a box :pAnd then he talks about how I "cling to the smallest things"... cute.

I'm very interested to see just how much better the Kinect device is and works.

Spencer mentioned there short conf wont be live streamed, but that they will be releasing vids from the conf and other events all week, there big focus seems to be the massive press and public demo's they will be having at the event, but i do hope to hear a few new things from the event.

Xtreme rumour: Xbox One delayed until March 2014

http://www.gamereactor.eu/news/87284/Xbox+One+dela...

Welcome to Xbox One: The Telenovela. MS has made so many UTurns and twists ..... Its insane. For me personally, I think they are making all the right choices but why go through such a messed up announcement and then make all these Uturns...the end result, the console has to be delayed in some territories and that I fear, will be fatal for the console in those countries. Sony must be dancing around right now. MS has lagged behind Sony in Europe this generation despite launching first and they simply cant afford any delays over there. Then again, they are launching in their strongest markets first, I suppose - it had to be done.

Looking forward to Episode 137 in this telenovela....

Where did Op go? Has he been sucked into a NeoGaf wormhole? Gone into cryosleep, depressed over all the "180s" and will be awakened when the Xbox 1080 is released?

I found his 1000 word posts along with Grifts and Phats snide remarks very entertaining.

Well at least for their troubles they get a free pack-in game when the console launches for them. There haven't been pack-in games since the consoles of the 80s.




-He's the PERFECT person to spearhead their digital distribution efforts. THIS is what is known as an excellent hire.

Except for, you know, the Wii.

Speaking of Nintendo, with the WiiU practically falling out of contention..........this may no longer be a 3-way console race anymore. Sony and Microsoft should both perform very well, with a big edge to Microsoft if any of Nintendo's users ever decide to make the X1 their new casual headquarters. All the more reason for Microsoft to hold on to Kinect and not divide their install base.

Lol, as if ninty's onstall base is going to flock to the more expensive 180 when they weren't even willing to pay less for the Wii-U? Those casual guys have already found a new home. I'd called tablets and phones.

360 vs X1 controller video face off CVG.

Cant wait to get my hands on one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTp3R783kQA

I can remember the first time I was gaming with the 360 controller, I thought it was the most well balanced control pad I ever used. It should be fun to experience the improvements if they're as good as the reviewers have been claiming.Well we'll see. It really does depends on where you are globally. Demand for the X1 remains very very strong here in North America, I don't see Microsoft having any problems in this market. I don't think either Sony or Microsoft will do well in Japan, they've all but abandoned console gaming there. Which basically is going to make Europe the battleground.

There are some other dynamics at play as well. Microsoft hasn't been able to find the same media partners in all of the markets it wants to launch in, this could be a contributing factor to the delays in those markets mentioned yesterday. It was leaked in June that Microsoft is in negotiations with Sky UK to offer a subsidized Xbox One. Here they've already got Verzion, Comcast and AT&T on board and many suspect they will be offering subsidized Xbox One's with local service as well. So Microsoft is taking steps to soften the price for casuals should they choose to adopt.

On Major Nelson's August 9th Podcast, Albert Penello was visiting and talking about the X1 unboxing and a few other things. The conversation shifted to tablet applications, specifically Next Issue which is great digital magazine app that I have. About 50-51mins into the podcast Penello asked Larry, Laura and Eric to cut their mics for a moment because he has "something to show them from Microsoft Research" After a brief pause they all come back sounding very amazed at what Penello has revealed to them. Larry then proclaims, "Albert is living the future with that gadget"

I think Microsoft has much more planned in the future if the road to fortaleza document continues to hold true. That means over the next 24 months we could see AR and VR headsets, slates (XB Surface) etc. So again, all the more reason to keep Kinect bundled. That's one less gadget for people to buy, especially when you're planning to introduce several of them.

I don't really see how it's all the more reason to keep kinect bundled. All those other potential gadgets are options, why can't kinect be an option too? It's the final hurdle for MS, and with a bit of help from vocal consumers, we'll be able to push them over it. Now, there is still the issue of trusting them again, they may not have gotten their way, but attempted rape is still a chargeable offence after all. Just because they've put their dick back in their pants and said "just kidding" doesn't magically remove the fact they where trying all this shit in the first place. But in time that trust will be gained again, assuming they stay true to their reformed ways...

It's good that Kinect is bundled, allows gaming to move forward and evolve - you have to see the bigger picture here

talk about giving something too much credit....lol

let's talk in 2-3 years again and see how it turned out ;)

i expect it to be much the same sort of impact as the wii, ie, popular, but not changing the landscape of gaming like you're suggesting. gimmicks and fads come and go, the competition try to latch onto that success, and then everything reverts back to the way things where...as it should be. things like oculus being an "as standard" feature in games has far more potential to move gaming forward then input-less, high latency motion controls.

Looks like the best just got better, i like the subtle changes that are reported to make it feel more natural and comftable in the hands.

I didnt like the new button colouring initially but its growing on me, especially when compared to the 360 controller.That is quite possibly the worst analogy I have ever read.

KORN..................really?

Kinect and digital distribution was never going to be as bad as that. And it IS their fault for not explaining it properly and they're continuing to recover from that.

But given the above comment, I would say your feelings over this are TOO STRONG. You're going to be hating Microsoft over this a for LONG time, maybe even the rest the generation. So give it up. Kinect or no Kinect, it doesn't matter to you at this point. And since it doesn't matter there's no reason for you to continue to push for it's removal. You're Not Going To Buy An Xbox One.

Microsoft has made about as fair a gesture as any mega corporation will ever make by allowing you to set controls for Kinect, but the sensor remains a central part of their strategy. But if Kinect is being used as the excuse for not purchasing an X1 then I think it's fair to say that person already made up their mind not buy one.

None of us has a crystal ball..........well maybe Tinks has one, but we remember how the last gen started. People love to bet against this company, Ballmer has blown so much cash it's not hard to imagine why. But what I mean is that the Xbox brand wasn't even supposed to have a chance when they first entered the market. It was being called the biggest mistake Microsoft would ever make. And again in 2005 the 360 was being "Dreamcasted" before even a single unit had been sold.

So now we're 3-For-3. Another Xbox console is "doomed" Like docLEX suggested, in 2-3 years this should be a much more interesting conversation.