Acert93 - Mr. Bad Cop
Acert93
Since 7548 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
Fairly well made Forza 4 versus Forza 5 comparison: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPAQa6Scbdc
OUCH.
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Pwn'd by Phaethon360.

GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7578 Days
Posted by GrimThorne
Anad isn't saying this is a competing API, they're saying THIS IS Xbox One's low level API.
We understood it the first time. I disagreed.

It's poor speculation to assume a connection to the Xbox One. They partnered with EA to create this API and not Microsoft. I think Microsoft would be happy to keep everything Windows-side on DirectX. And they would likely control the software regardless. Microsoft was not mentioned one time in AMD's press conference, or in any of the corresponding media (so far as I've seen). And they've been pretty talky about wanting it on multiple operating systems. That sounds just like Microsoft! So what is Anand saying, if Microsoft aren't in cahoots with AMD? They lifted an exact copy of the API form the Xbox One? And Microsoft retains no control at all? That sounds pretty impossible. Is that possible?

I like Anandtech a lot, but this seems like fantasy. Which makes a lot of sense. A lot of the reaction to Mantle is fantasy. Like the legitimate Tech blogs who thought that they were inviting Nvidia to join the party. Fat chance.

They can brush off comparisons to GLIDE but that's exactly what it is. We've been down this road before. It ends in an abstract API called DirectX.

If it's true it's pretty amazing of Microsoft to allow it to happen. Period. Unless they're in on it. And then.. why not just come out and say it? Either way, it's a big win for AMD. No matter how you look at it. Again: the R9 is not an impressive piece of hardware. They may have just won over the entire market with a piece of proprietary software.

Which until recently they claimed to hate.
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OUCH.
But it looks amazing!
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rayy
rayy
Since 7552 Days
Posted by GrimThorne
Look at it this way. If they're correct then Mantle is the Xbox One's API with a cross platform bridge for GCN architecture. We have to wait and see.
If Mantle is Xone API or not it really doesn't matter. Anandtech is just speculating about it, and consoles should supposed to work with low lvl APIs anyways. Also remember PS4 have GCN architecture to.

Now on PC is a different thing, and the impact it could get wont benefit Microsoft on the PC department if this get plenty of support and it is also on Linux. This mantle thing could even create an API war between major parties, and that always come with heavy fragmentation.

SteamOS and now Mantle should have Microsoft scratching their head right now.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7578 Days
Posted by rayy
SteamOS and now Mantle should have Microsoft scratching their head right now.
It's sure got PC gamers scratching our collective heads.

Well.. except for the fanboys who are either in denial mode or thumping their chests in victory.. lol.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7578 Days
Also: I'd think BF4 on XB1 would have shadows if this were really the case, seeing EA's involvement ;)

I might jump ship if there's a significant performance increase in BF4, but I can't imagine purposefully downgrading my GPU's. That sounds like self-sabotage in the long run. AMD is not beating Nvidia at DirectX anytime soon. And I mean for years if we're to believe their pipelines.
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scoobs0688
scoobs0688
Since 6212 Days
Posted by Acert93
OUCH.
.... Well I guess we know how they got this game ready for launch.
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 7423 Days
Not sure how much this will affect visuals but Ryse poly count has been downgraded by about half http://gearnuke.com/ryse-downgrade-officially-conf...
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docLEXfisti
docLEXfisti
Since 7696 Days
Okay guys, the NDA is not over but one nugget has surfaced and it can be all lies, but it also can be true. This is coming from MisterX again and you can read the full post from his insider at the link

It says that MS switched the 7770 GPU with a new one in the last six months. It's not an additional dGPU, it's a totally new GPU:

A modified R9 X280 with 3.1TF

And before everyone starts to bash, read it first. If these guys really are making this up, they deserve a medal for "best foolery in 2013"

http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/138183.html
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LEBATO - IS WRONG
LEBATO
Since 7699 Days
Posted by docLEXfisti
they deserve a medal for "best foolery in 2013"

http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/138183.html
WTF are you talking about, they may be fooling you, so you get them that medal...all power to you.

EDIT: Just read some of the comments from the link, people are sad
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Mods, stop changing my SIG! I'm going to end up banning you!

GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7578 Days
It all adds up.
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docLEXfisti
docLEXfisti
Since 7696 Days
It would also finally explain the need for 200Watts, as that GPU would need 130W alone
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 7423 Days
Posted by LEBATO
WTF are you talking about, they may be fooling you, so you get them that medal...all power to you.

EDIT: Just read some of the comments from the link, people are sad
The entire website is like Pagliacci.
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hijab
hijab
Since 5370 Days
It takes years to built a console not like pc where you can swap gpu's like that.
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scoobs0688
scoobs0688
Since 6212 Days
Posted by docLEXfisti
It would also finally explain the need for 200Watts, as that GPU would need 130W alone
Again, I can't tell if you are trolling w/ these posts or you legitimately think that the XB1 is shipping with a $300 GPU, (that was announced this week mind you) inside of it, even though the XB1 has been in mass production for over a month now. Like... do you even understand how idiotic these rumors are?

Have some sense man... And btw, reading the responses to this dumbasses' blog is super depressing. People are really, really stupid and gullible.
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BLackHawkodst
BLackHawkodst
Since 6464 Days
Posted by Jin187
Loving the new lighting engine, really stands out on that track. The audio is sublime as usual, they just need to add more AA as it's looking a little fuzzy. Easily my most anticipated game of the next generation.
Yeah the lighting really makes it pop, day one for sure.
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GrimThorne
GrimThorne
Since 7450 Days
Well to my eyes it looks like cutting back on the triangles helped. Clearly better shading. Huh, how about that.

Before and After

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docLEXfisti
docLEXfisti
Since 7696 Days
looks, great!

Made some videos today @ Gamecity Vienna from Ryse, Forza and Kinect Sports Rivals - will post after upload is finished. And I really loved that controller, the new feedback feels very impressive. The only thing that's strange at the moment is the weight. It's much less weight and I had to get used to it a bit.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7578 Days
Posted by GrimThorne
Well to my eyes it looks like cutting back on the triangles helped.
Of course.

Looks like the Forza 4 versus Forza 5 comparison :D

The 280X must have boosted the quality of these titles.
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OUCH.
Posted by BLackHawkodst
Yeah the lighting really makes it pop, day one for sure.
The disparity of responses :D
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BLackHawkodst
BLackHawkodst
Since 6464 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
The disparity of responses :D
Different opinions on a forum... no way!

:D
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7578 Days
Yeah... "opinions."
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BLackHawkodst
BLackHawkodst
Since 6464 Days
Indeed.
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docLEXfisti
docLEXfisti
Since 7696 Days
So, here's my video of Forza Motorsport 5: was very impressive, cockpit view is truly sexy. Aliasing is much less noticable on TV than it was on PC when watching the gamersyde-videos [note: I'm not the player in any of these videos]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qYZa-yMzfM

PS: My videos had 1080i/50 fps but on youtube only 30 remained - bummer. And at the end I zoom-in on the One itself.
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LEBATO - IS WRONG
LEBATO
Since 7699 Days
Posted by GrimThorne
Well to my eyes it looks like cutting back on the triangles helped. Clearly better shading. Huh, how about that.

Before and After

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Which one is before and which one is after ?
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Mods, stop changing my SIG! I'm going to end up banning you!

docLEXfisti
docLEXfisti
Since 7696 Days
Here's the rest:

Kinect Sports Rivals
Liked the optics, gotta love Rare. Dude was not capable though ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6HGAVhjqKI

Killer Instinct
Loved the particle effects, also a smooth sixty. Looked gorgeous. A lot of detail. Sure buy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgbmMaN4ZhA

RYSE Son of Rome
Brutal and beautiful multiplayer mode - second dude was more talented. Was fun even just watching. Also day-one for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7Fr_ReA12w

PS: Can I get in trouble for uploading those on youtube? Because then you better watch them quick :D
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KORNdog
KORNdog
Since 6982 Days
Posted by LEBATO
Which one is before and which one is after ?
The blurry one is "after"
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