Fable 3 (First Screenshots INside!)

dcdelgado

Since 7437 Days

Agree.

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SimonM7

Since 7601 Days

Posted by Jollipop

Too bad Fable has none of the charm Zelda does :P

I agree, but that is such a weird thing about Fable. And a lot of british games really. They're kinda mocking you in a way.. I dunno I don't know how to put my finger on it really, but they're so busy being two faced and ironic, there's hardly a real emotion in there, let alone charm.

I'm allergic to that style though, pretty openly so. I can't deal with Overlord AT ALL. I can't even tell you if that game is any good, I just hate the sniggering little bastards that you're controlling, and this "humour" that seemingly consists of being obnoxious.

I mean there's no woman in Fable that you don't wanna bludgeon to death with a fucking rock. So how am I supposed to feel emotionally involved when they expect me to care about my family later?

The game has to settle down. I think it still needs to treat its elements more sincerely to truly stick. It's still stuck, like I was alluding to earlier, in this pseudo pc god simulator/rpg mode while visibly trying to play up consoley action adventure elements and actually genuinely be moving. It can't have it all though, it's about time it started picking the battles it can win.

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[quote=Jollipop]Too bad Fable has none of the charm Zelda does :P[/quote]

I agree, but that is such a weird thing about Fable. And a lot of british games really. They're kinda mocking you in a way.. I dunno I don't know how to put my finger on it really, but they're so busy being two faced and ironic, there's hardly a real emotion in there, let alone charm.

I'm allergic to that style though, pretty openly so. I can't deal with Overlord AT ALL. I can't even tell you if that game is any good, I just hate the sniggering little bastards that you're controlling, and this "humour" that seemingly consists of being obnoxious.

I mean there's no woman in Fable that you don't wanna bludgeon to death with a fucking rock. So how am I supposed to feel emotionally involved when they expect me to care about my family later?

The game has to settle down. I think it still needs to treat its elements more sincerely to truly stick. It's still stuck, like I was alluding to earlier, in this pseudo pc god simulator/rpg mode while visibly trying to play up consoley action adventure elements and actually genuinely be moving. It can't have it all though, it's about time it started picking the battles it can win.

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icemanufc

Since 6243 Days

Looks awesome, man so many great games!!

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Shawnzee

Since 7589 Days

So excited for this, I loved both fable 1 and 2, I just wish they would make it longer.

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LEBATO

Since 7699 Days

Posted by Jollipop

Too bad Fable has none of the charm Zelda does :P

Too bad both of them are mediocre.

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Tinks

Since 7507 Days

I'm sorry but Zelda is still a beast of a game no matter what you say. To put Fable and Zelda on equal ground isn't even right on many levels. I really don't understand where all this negativity about Zelda comes from on here. Maybe it's a generational thing I'm not sure. If you had a Nintendo at any point you have to respect Zelda really.

I've played all the iterations since Super NES and they really don't ever disappoint. At the very least they're always solid with a solid story. Fable wishes it was even a small amount of what Zelda is.

As for the style of Fable you guys are speaking of, that's just British comedy. Their comedy is something that works well here when executed right since American style is to just beat you over the head with the obscene.
Whether you want your game to be serious or not is the question though. Which can easily rub you the wrong way because that humor can get old.

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Optimusv2

Since 7470 Days

Zelda is an amazing franchise and is on a whole other level from Fable, despite the fact that I like Fable, not a fan of Fable 2 though.

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SimonM7

Since 7601 Days

Posted by Tinks

As for the style of Fable you guys are speaking of, that's just British comedy

Yeah, I think I alluded to as much. It's kind of a branch though, because I enjoy a ton of british humour, currently watching The IT Crowd for the third time even. It's just that the style humour in Fable rubs me the wrong way. I'm not sure, but I think Discworld may be of a similar school of humour? I've only the games to go by though, which I can't stand either.

I wouldn't mind if it was somewhat contained though, I think the reason it really bothers me is that it effectively makes every character a total, one dimensional airhead. They're just using practically every npc to deliver annoying "funny lines". I've a hard time being evil in games, but the population in Fable is consistently massacre-inspiring.

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BLackHawkodst

Since 6464 Days

Posted by Shawnzee

So excited for this, I loved both fable 1 and 2, I just wish they would make it longer.

yep fable 3 looks like it will be a blast.

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Jollipop

Since 7460 Days

Fable's humour is vulgarity with a weak sense of sarcasm, it barely passes at being humour at all.

Discworld is a similar type of humour I guess but its leagues above Fable.

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Tinks

Since 7507 Days

Can I just bring something up?

Molyneux is telling us that this game will let us know what it feels like to be Barack Obama when he's faced with criticism about his failure to see through his commitment to closing Guantanamo Bay.

EXCUSE ME?!

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Optimusv2

Since 7470 Days

Posted by Tinks

Can I just bring something up?

Molyneux is telling us that this game will let us know what it feels like to be Barack Obama when he's faced with criticism about his failure to see through his commitment to closing Guantanamo Bay.

EXCUSE ME?!

I'm a big Obama supporter personally, but in some senses ,I believe it's one of few legitimate criticisms that can be made about his job performance thus far. His commitment to close Guantanimo isn't in doubt, he's committed to doing that, but then at same time, he has also allowed partisan scare tactics by Republicans saying things like, "Oh no, you don't want terrorists being in your state, down the street from your daughters and children, oh no they could escape and cause all sorts of havoc" to seemingly rattle his administration enough to delay his plans, it even caused the idiot democrats that claim to be the presidents closest allies to vote against the funding necessary that he needed to get the damn thing closed. It's progressing alright and I do believe it will ultimately get done, but there's no reason that we should still be here more than a year into his presidency and that embarrassment to the country still exists.

But still, I do suppose that bringing such a thing up could be seen as a bit overthetop. When people think about promises, so many seem to forget about the massive middle class taxcut he gave everyone ;)

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[quote=Tinks]Can I just bring something up?

[i]Molyneux is telling us that this game will let us know what it feels like to be Barack Obama when he's faced with criticism about his failure to see through his commitment to closing Guantanamo Bay.[/i]

EXCUSE ME?![/quote]

I'm a big Obama supporter personally, but in some senses ,I believe it's one of few legitimate criticisms that can be made about his job performance thus far. His commitment to close Guantanimo isn't in doubt, he's committed to doing that, but then at same time, he has also allowed partisan scare tactics by Republicans saying things like, "Oh no, you don't want terrorists being in your state, down the street from your daughters and children, oh no they could escape and cause all sorts of havoc" to seemingly rattle his administration enough to delay his plans, it even caused the idiot democrats that claim to be the presidents closest allies to vote against the funding necessary that he needed to get the damn thing closed. It's progressing alright and I do believe it will ultimately get done, but there's no reason that we should still be here more than a year into his presidency and that embarrassment to the country still exists.

But still, I do suppose that bringing such a thing up could be seen as a bit overthetop. When people think about promises, so many seem to forget about the massive middle class taxcut he gave everyone ;)

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vspectra06

Since 8284 Days

Looks like the same game again.

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Tinks

Since 7507 Days

They stripped out the RPG elements though. Just an action adventure now

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Ronsauce

Since 7563 Days

Posted by Tinks

They stripped out the RPG elements though. Just an action adventure now

Tell Molyneux that.

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Tinks

Since 7507 Days

They said it in the interview on IGN. Everything that made it an RPG is gone.

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GrimThorne

Since 7450 Days

Posted by SimonM7

Yeah, I think I alluded to as much. It's kind of a branch though, because I enjoy a ton of british humour, currently watching The IT Crowd for the third time even. It's just that the style humour in Fable rubs me the wrong way. I'm not sure, but I think Discworld may be of a similar school of humour? I've only the games to go by though, which I can't stand either.

I wouldn't mind if it was somewhat contained though, I think the reason it really bothers me is that it effectively makes every character a total, one dimensional airhead. They're just using practically every npc to deliver annoying "funny lines". I've a hard time being evil in games, but the population in Fable is consistently massacre-inspiring.

Peter and Lionhead purposefully made the people of Albion that way. They were designed to bait you.

No locking mechanisms on the doors made it easy for the stalkers to come in your home no matter what time of day it was and annoy you. A citizen might walk up to you and say something flattering and then only seconds later insult you. They walked around drunk and picked fights with you and made snide remarks about things you did on quests. But I found early on that massacres didn't have a very lasting effect. You'd could wipe out Bowerstone, come back a few game weeks later and the town is right back to normal.

There was only one element about massacres that I respected in Fable2........... the kids. If anyone in the town got it, it was the kids.

Here's a guy with a gun and an axe, he's used it to take off heads before. We'll run everytime we see this guy coming even if the adults here are stupid enough to fall for his wardrobe change and expressions. Hey, did you see that? He just gave his daughter a master flintlock rifle. We know what this guy is all about, why can't the adults here figure it out? People tend to drop dead whenever this guy shows up, the guards are all clueless as they walk around asking everybody what happened........but we know. And who in their right mind would ever go into that guy's house uninvited?

The shocked expressions on the faces of the kids were hilarious to me, a kind of finality that spoke directly to the foolishness that I had to endure from their stupid parents. You're an orphan now kid, and you only have your mom and dad to blame for it.

If Fable3 really gives me absolute rule over the mindless, superficial twits of Albion, they are going to have a violently difficult time ahead of them.

Posted by Tinks

They said it in the interview on IGN. Everything that made it an RPG is gone.

Fable never played like an RPG anyway. So Peter saying that he's throwing all of the RPG elements out doesn't really concern me.

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[quote=SimonM7]

Yeah, I think I alluded to as much. It's kind of a branch though, because I enjoy a ton of british humour, currently watching The IT Crowd for the third time even. It's just that the style humour in Fable rubs me the wrong way. I'm not sure, but I think Discworld may be of a similar school of humour? I've only the games to go by though, which I can't stand either.

I wouldn't mind if it was somewhat contained though, I think the reason it really bothers me is that it effectively makes every character a total, one dimensional airhead. They're just using practically every npc to deliver annoying "funny lines". I've a hard time being evil in games, but the population in Fable is consistently massacre-inspiring.[/quote]

Peter and Lionhead purposefully made the people of Albion that way.  They were designed to bait you.

No locking mechanisms on the doors made it easy for the stalkers to come in your home no matter what time of day it was and annoy you. A citizen might walk up to you and say something flattering and then only seconds later insult you.   They walked around drunk and picked fights with you and made snide remarks about things you did on quests.  But I found early on that massacres didn't have a very lasting effect.  You'd could wipe out Bowerstone, come back a few game weeks later and the town is right back to normal.

There was only one element about massacres that I respected in Fable2........... the kids.  If anyone in the town got it, it was the kids.

[i]Here's a guy with a gun and an axe, he's used it to take off heads before.  We'll run everytime we see this guy coming even if the adults here are stupid enough to fall for his wardrobe change and expressions.   Hey, did you see that?  He just gave his daughter a master flintlock rifle.  We know what this guy is all about, why can't the adults here figure it out?  People tend to drop dead whenever this guy shows up, the guards are all clueless as they walk around asking everybody what happened........but we know.  And who in their right mind would ever go into that guy's house uninvited?  [/i]

The shocked expressions on the faces of the kids were hilarious to me, a kind of finality that spoke directly to the foolishness that I had to endure from their stupid parents.  You're an orphan now kid, and you only have your mom and dad to blame for it.

If Fable3 really gives me absolute rule over the mindless, superficial twits of Albion, they are going to have a violently difficult time ahead of them.

[quote=Tinks]They said it in the interview on IGN. Everything that made it an RPG is gone.[/quote]

Fable never played like an RPG anyway. So Peter saying that he's throwing all of the RPG elements out doesn't really concern me.

SimonM7

Since 7601 Days

Well I already kinda figured they weren't like that by accident, but it gets weird when I'm later supposed to care about my family which is just as gigantic a pair of airheaded drones as the rest of the population!

That's why I kinda would like for them to choose; either you have citizens that are dumb peons full time or you don't bet a huge narrative device on absolutely baseless affinity towards them.

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Optimusv2

Since 7470 Days

Posted by Tinks

They stripped out the RPG elements though. Just an action adventure now

Whatever they need to do in order to make it a better quality game.

Honestly, I really do feel they've yet to match what they did with the first Fable. The second fable game, in all honesty, was not nearly as good as part 1 was, but that's just me.

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Tomarru

Since 6649 Days

Thats cause they stripped out all the rpg elements that were part of 1, it never felt like you were progressing really.
Heres what i posted in response to the dev diary:
"Another case of a game looking far better in motion than it does in screens. Im not sure about the direction theyre taking the game though, F2 was an ok game, it was rather limited and the RPG elements were weak. That was really my biggest gripe, the game was shallow in everything it tried, it had a diverse range of things but they were all dead ends that could be reached very quickly.

When i hear them mention things like making the game more accessable i cringe, physically buckle over in pain, if anything they need to make it less accessable, make it MORE of an rpg, add some depth to things. If they market the thing as a straight up adventure game i wouldnt complain, but then they wouldnt see a penny from me either as thats not the game i had became a fan of in the first instance."

Really, seeing that molyneux himself has mentioned stripping out the rpg elements makes me detest this man and his decisions even more. Quite frankly, if the rpg elements are gone i hope it tanks like nothing before it just in spite of the fact they have actively pursued the destruction of the franchise to cater for a "wider" audience instead of making a BETTER game.

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Thats cause they stripped out all the rpg elements that were part of 1, it never felt like you were progressing really.
Heres what i posted in response to the dev diary:
"Another case of a game looking far better in motion than it does in screens. Im not sure about the direction theyre taking the game though, F2 was an ok game, it was rather limited and the RPG elements were weak. That was really my biggest gripe, the game was shallow in everything it tried, it had a diverse range of things but they were all dead ends that could be reached very quickly.

When i hear them mention things like making the game more accessable i cringe, physically buckle over in pain, if anything they need to make it less accessable, make it MORE of an rpg, add some depth to things. If they market the thing as a straight up adventure game i wouldnt complain, but then they wouldnt see a penny from me either as thats not the game i had became a fan of in the first instance."

Really, seeing that molyneux himself has mentioned stripping out the rpg elements makes me detest this man and his decisions even more. Quite frankly, if the rpg elements are gone i hope it tanks like nothing before it just in spite of the fact they have actively pursued the destruction of the franchise to cater for a "wider" audience instead of making a BETTER game.

ManThatYouFear

Since 7521 Days

stripped out the rpg, so its just like ME2 then... duh dun.

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Ronsauce

Since 7563 Days

From the dev diary:

A roleplaying game is all about this is me playing the role of a hero and a king or a queen

It's really about not getting rid of every element of an RPG

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Slabs

Since 7608 Days

The body/weapon/morale morphing replaces levelling, the followers replace XP and it sounds like there will be some creativity and consequence for your choice in appearance and clothing which replaces loot.

It isn't really a case of making it less of an RPG than it is making it a friendlier kind of RPG. Whether it succeeds or not we can't possibly know until release.

Also I personally love the humour in Fable for the most part. The emotes are pretty basic but the characters are wonderfully grotesque.

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SimonM7

Since 7601 Days

Yeah I should probably stress that I just have a personal distaste for it. It's a legitimate style to paint the world in.

I do think it's jarring when they try to play on emotion though. I so would've wanted to care about my family when I returned to Albion after the tower thing.. and at the end of the game aswell. I just felt no connection at all to the seemingly randomised lass, spewing super irritating lines and my annoying little tit for a son.

If those things HAD worked, if I actually had a bit of affection for my family which I wouldn't have had to be hard pushed to feel, just not PUSHED AWAY from feeling, the return to Albion could've been one of the most impactful moments in a game for me.

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Tinks

Since 7507 Days

It'll be successful because it's Fable. I'm not sure how it happened, or if it was because of all those empty promises people were excited to see, but this game sells well. The last game was reviewed incredibly high and had high sales. If Fable 2 can do well, Fable 3 has it easy really. It'll use press coverage of Natal to boost their sales even more.

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