Oh I agree with that. I just don't know if a handful of games are enough to undo the other stuff, for me, at least.

There will be no shortage of great games to play with or without an Xbox One. And that's their problem. All of this other stuff is just pushing me away, and it's difficult to see an angle where they can demand my attention again.

I think they'll have some fine games even. Black Tusk's game could turn some heads. They'll talk about future Halo games (which some people still go a bit mad over). Forza looks great, as expected. Mirror's Edge 2 could be a thing. Titan Fall might be a soft exclusive, but that counts for a lot of people. But there's no shortage of alternatives really. Maybe exclusives aren't really enough for me anymore. I mean that for both camps. Sony has some interesting first party titles. They did this generation too. I lived without them and I don't really feel like I've missed much. Because I've had other great games to play. But you'll get that anywhere if you actually look for it.

I will buy the controller for my PC if it's compatible.

A hardware reveal without showing the product is a little bit daft on Sony's part but it's the least important facet in many ways. I actually quite like the design of the Xbox One whereas I've a profound hatred for playing any kind of FPS on a Dual-anything.

I think Microsoft's problem is they won't have enough great games over and above what will already be out there (which as Grift alludes is rather plentiful).

Prettier Forza, COD stealing Peter Molyneux's dog and a recording of what EA said about next gen last gen (it was the same rhetoric) is not news. A more shooty Alan Wake with a sub-par TV spin-off is not terribly exciting news as Alan Wake was what, three years late? Even Kinnect voice control and Skype isn't news! Now it's just not as shit as before.

Having decided to do a reveal and spend a bare minimum amount of time on actual games, the majority of what they did wheel out wasn't even their own stuff for the most part. What does that say about the games we're likely to see on Xbox One that Skype, (bloody Skype!) is more interesting.

It's a strategy driven by an irrational fear of a product from the fruit company that doesn't exist and a bunch of suits with spreadsheets going on about how much people use their 360 for non-gaming stuff completely ignorant to the fact that with just a few notable exceptions they've not done much more than iterate on existing franchises and let everybody else get on with it, with mixed results. Maybe that's why people opted for Netflix instead? No, it couldn't be.

We can probably guess at least half of tomorrow's line up already. We can guess the other half of that is going to be some Kinnect stuff. That doesn't leave a lot of room for error.

I can actually do with a box that functions as a PVR, plays Blu-Ray and Halo. As an existing fan of theirs I'm supposed to be the easy sell. How the hell are they winning the rest of us over I don't know but I don't think a run of sequels is going to cut it when we find out how much this monstrosity costs.

And I certainly don't expect any humility from Mattrick tomorrow when he bowls out on stage despite the fiasco of the last three weeks. That's a large part of Xbox's malaise right there if you ask me.

I don't think I'm underestimating people. If anything I'd be overestimating them. But I don't think I'm doing that either. I've already said time and again that I think the Xbox One will be a success despite itself.But like, who cares. Those super core guys buy everything. Needn't worry about them ;) So far as being an easy sell: Why would you be? They got rid of their best inhouse developer.

Microsoft assumes that people care more about brand names than the talent that made the games they love. In some cases, they are absolutely correct.People keep saying to toss Ballmer to the curb. This clown needs to go first.Getting back to this for just one second.. don't forget.. they've even called it "the unlimited power of the cloud."

LMFAO.

Well, I'm not sure the super core guys fell over themselves to get a PS3, at least not for a long time. The console proposition is more questionable this decade than last, they have a bunch of other baggage to contend with as well as it just being expensive. It's unlikely to be $599 expensive because their memories aren't that short at least but I'm not so sure these things are going to fly off the shelves even with the strong brands in existing franchises. I can see it aping the PS3 and not even selling out at launch although a large part of that depends on today and the actual price.

It doesn't scream successful to me at the moment.I'm an easy sell in theory because I'm invested personally much more in IP that Microsoft holds than Sony does. That is all things being equal, I'd by a Microsoft system over the latter purely on the back of things like Halo, even if that too might be on the wane.

In addition to that, I've an interest in the media functions to an extent. Right now to watch a Blu-Ray or movie on Netflix there is endless titting about either booting the PS3 up or coming out of one app and logging into another and my partner will laugh at me for the entire five minutes it takes. The seamless switching is cool as an added value thing. Plus the controller, I can't stand the Sony ones.

Bollocks as I think they are, the used game/always online thing won't even affect me in practice so it's moot.

But in spite of all that, where a new Xbox should be a slam-dunk in this household it still isn't. I will almost certainly wait for the first price cut before considering it even if they knock it out the park today and that's a huge turn around in form going by the previous few years.

Geoff Keighley says 20 games on stage so I'll have a stab;-

1. Halo 5
2. Crackdown 3
3. Fable
4. Ryse
5. COD Ghosts
6. Killer Instinct
7. LocoCycle
8. Black Tusk FPS
9. Forza 5
10. Quantum Break
11. Mirror's Edge 2
12. Titanfall
13. The Witcher 3
14. Kinnect Fitness
15. Kinnect Sports
16. Splinter Cell
17. Something on Kinnect for Kids
18. Gears something
19. Banjo 4
20. Beyond Good & Evil 2

Hopefully that list isn't bang on!

Also they said something about "exciting" news for the Xbox 360. Maybe they'll open up the platform for self-publishing in a more significant way. Anyway, that's my predictions.

Edit: Just realised there is no dancing game or EA sports which should be a given

You should stop caring about that. Microsoft is using that as leverage. And all they have in Halo anymore is a name. They let go their best developer. You can get their game on Playstation now.

It's just an attachment to brands at this point.

No legacy support. Few legacy developers. I'm not sure what's keeping the hangers on so hung up. We'll hear all about the games today. Games you can mostly play anywhere else.It's not moot. Don't be like that. Just because you don't use or support a thing doesn't mean you should be okay with them just doing any-old-thing with it. If they pulled this in a different industry that didn't affect me, I'd still be bothered by it. You shouldn't be okay with consumer abuse just because you see a way around it personally.

You're just asking for it at that point.

You might as well stop calling it bollocks if you are going to support it anyway.