gow_fan
gow_fan
Since 5938 Days
lol nice.

Like I said in other thread. XO for 349 will happen within a year or 2. May be take Kinect2 out if they stand any chance to compete. XO should have been much cheaper than PS4
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 6289 Days
ahahahahahhahahhaahah
hhahahahhahahha

KNeel before Sony!!!
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Real Madrid C.F. fan.

mt_sabao
mt_sabao
Since 7012 Days
Posted by Sath
I still wont buy it since it costs too much, comes with their shitty Kinect...
wow
Posted by KORNdog
Multiplats are almost guaranteed to look better on PS4.
and wow
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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 7511 Days
This is BIG, honestly it really is BIG that a giant corporation kneels down and reverses a decision. WE ARE THE DECISION MAKERS people and may this remain forever more!
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Milhouse
Since 6986 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
Sharing is not an advantage of the XB1 retail model. Disc authentication and sharing of direct downloads could co-exist.

For that reason alone I do not really consider that a valid argument in support of Microsoft's tactics.
I don't see how it could co exists. Its not about downloads or discs, but games. The sharing rule apply for all games, either disc or download, because every game is also available in the cloud. If the rule would only apply to downloads many people wouldn't never benefit from sharing, because they are still used to buy retail packages.
It would be stupid to introduce conditions when certain rules are applied or not. Either you can share all games and play them all from every console without disc or not!

I better live with 24h check instead of disc checking. And again: PS4 neither let you play any retail game from any console from everywhere nor can you share any retail game with friends nor can your friends play the same game simultaneously!!! It’s still not possible without online check, because you cannot guarantee authorization between consoles that are offline.
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KORNdog
KORNdog
Since 6985 Days
Posted by mt_sabao
and wow
They are, we're talking a bigger difference in specs then what the PS3 and 360 are today, and today 360 multiplats tend to look and run better then the PS3 version. So without the multiplat advantage. It need to bring some serious exclusive fire power.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7447 Days
Posted by mt_sabao
and wow
Wow, ok.
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BLackHawkodst
BLackHawkodst
Since 6468 Days
MASSIVE!!! :D
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Prepare To Drop!!

deftangel - Hot stuff!
deftangel
Since 7449 Days
Posted by KORNdog
Great news if true. Multiplats are almost guaranteed to look better on PS4
Actually third parties will likely engineer to the lowest common denominator like they do now so whilst those who really care about it may notice some extra bells and whistles, I expect to the average joe they'll look more or less identical. I'm more concerned as to how much memory Xbox One's hypervisor setup consumes.
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http://twitter.com/deftangel

GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7581 Days
THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON THIS PAGE:

So are all of the fanboys here who were ready to roll-over at the very thought of master chief ready to admit they were wrong yet? Microsoft has.
I don't see how it could co exists.
I guess you're right: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/19/microsoft-r...

I still think they could have done it had they planned for this ahead of time.

This is a huge victory for consumers. Consumers who speak up. Shame about all those other folks.

VICTORY.
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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 7511 Days
All games are REGION FREE too baby....Wow, Microsoft just evened out the playing field and it TRULY is all about the games now :D Impress me with those and you have MY MONEY :D

#VICTORY
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mt_sabao
mt_sabao
Since 7012 Days
Posted by KORNdog
and today 360 multiplats tend to look and run better then the PS3 version
That's completely false.

edit: sorry i misread you. see deftangel's post. specs difference between consoles become rather negligible, as we learned this generation.
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raina
raina
Since 5393 Days
Posted by KORNdog
They are, we're talking a bigger difference in specs then what the PS3 and 360 are today, and today 360 multiplats tend to look and run better then the PS3 version. So without the multiplat advantage. It need to bring some serious exclusive fire power.
Exclusive games will shown difference not multiplats sadly
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Playstation, pushing the boundries of Play.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fMRYPZ4Jek

GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7581 Days
Posted by mt_sabao
That's completely false.
Wut? That's not completely false. Hell, it was a bragging right for fanboys until the tables were turned.

I agree with deft though.
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KORNdog
KORNdog
Since 6985 Days
Posted by mt_sabao
That's completely false.
Have you ever read a digital foundry face off. There has been like, 10 games that get the nod on PS3. It's the truth. And it'll be the reverse next gen.
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Redneck
Redneck
Since 7269 Days
the headline 'Your Feedback Matters' made me chuckle a bit

BTW, STOP beeing so positive. Kinect needs to go too!
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They tookor jeabs

Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7447 Days
Posted by mt_sabao
That's completely false.
Wow.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7581 Days
Posted by Redneck
Kinect needs to go too!
Kinect may still prevent my purchase but this is wonderful news. Let's be fucking positive.
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BLackHawkodst
BLackHawkodst
Since 6468 Days
Posted by deftangel
Actually third parties will likely engineer to the lowest common denominator like they do now so whilst those who really care about it may notice some extra bells and whistles, I expect to the average joe they'll look more or less identical. I'm more concerned as to how much memory Xbox One's hypervisor setup consumes.
Also the Watchdog devs, Konami devs and Avalanche devs have come out stating the power difference between the consoles is minimal.
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Prepare To Drop!!

alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 7511 Days
Kinect is not much of a problem right now, what we can do is not buy games that support it and MS will get the message.
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gow_fan
gow_fan
Since 5938 Days
Posted by KORNdog
Have you ever read a digital foundry face off. There has been like, 10 games that get the nod on PS3. It's the truth. And it'll be the reverse next gen.
29fps and 27.5fps is barely noticeable or slight difference here and there. 99% can't even tell with naked eye
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7447 Days
Posted by alimokrane
Kinect is not much of a problem right now, what we can do is not buy games that support it and MS will get the message.
And yet the price tag will be high for those who wants to get it day one, they gotta wait 1 year or so or force to pay up.
They didnt say anything about Kinect doesnt need to be hooked with Xbox to work...did they? did i miss it?
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7581 Days
Posted by alimokrane
Kinect is not much of a problem right now, what we can do is not buy games that support it and MS will get the message.
It still makes the package $100 more expensive than the PS4 with less horsepower. That's sorta not okay.
Posted by gow_fan
29fps and 27.5fps is barely noticeable or slight difference here and there. 99% can't even tell with naked eye
Frame rate performance is only part of the picture. Many have inferior image quality as well.
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docLEXfisti
docLEXfisti
Since 7699 Days
Awesome!
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the only tyrant I accept is my inner voice [and my two kids ;)]

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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 7511 Days
Posted by Sath
And yet the price tag will be high for those who wants to get it day one, they gotta wait 1 year or so or force to pay up.
They didnt say anything about Kinect doesnt need to be hooked with Xbox to work...did they? did i miss it?
Price will of course be a factor but that's something they can rectify quickly when demand drops. The console is VERY expensive, I agree. They might decide to drop the price.
Posted by GriftGFX
It still makes the package $100 more expensive than the PS4 with less horsepower. That's sorta not okay.
It definately is not. The price will be dropped sooner or later so I am not too fussed about it as I am not getting either console at launch but 12 months down the line.
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