It's just a modest spec bump and Gaf went ape shit over it.

Anyway as it stands-

APU

1.7Ghz CPU [with 8 Jaguar Cores]
853Mhz GPU [1.31 TFlops]
32 MB ESRAM [pool of four 8GB]
8 GB DDR3 Memory
8 GB Flash memory
15 special purpose processors
4 Command processors (2 Compute, 2 Graphics)
SHAPE offloads >1 CPU core
Memory coherency between CPU cores and GPU [HSA/hUMA]
68 GB/sec peak bandwidth to off-chip 8GB DDR3 memory
204 GB/s peak bandwidth to 32MB of on-die storage
Kinect- has it's own SoC, so it doesn't tap the CPU at all

And then we have the rumor which cannot be corroborated until AMD lifts it's NDA later this month.

DPU

dGPU [8000 Sea Island Series] & [2.5D stacked solution]
2GBs of it's OWN Graphics Memory


What we know-

The NDA IS real, but when it's lifted it's anyone guess what Microsoft would actually have the freedom to discuss. It might just be about features and functions.
MS-AMD Deal for Custom Silicon solution is worth $3Billion to AMD.
MS and AMD have apparently done joint research on just such a fab process. But it was for a CPU, not a GPU, but you get the concept.
We have at least one AMD employee acknowledging work on an APU/dGPU while working on the XB1 project through a Linked resume.

As many sites have pointed out, such technology does actually exist and AMD does indeed either have plans or is already preparing to release APUs that do exactly what the rumor claims. But whether or not this is coming to the Xbox One is purely a speculative matter.



Here's what I think. I think that MS would be foolish to hide a dGPU when it's a clear hardware advantage that they would be standing on the roof screaming about after every single dig Sony makes at them. But if they are bound by an NDA that prohibits them from talking about unreleased AMD tech then those reasons are legal and inflexible. Interesting enough, AMD did something similar in 05, halting their product line to coincide with the release of the XB360. The circumstances were different though, those NDAs revolved graphic features, not whole fabrications.

Finally, I don't think anyone should believe it. There's no evidence save waiting for Sep29th to validate or disprove it. Even if Microsoft couldn't talk about the tech, they would have at least acknowledged the dGPU existence. Well I'm assuming that they would, I could be wrong. If it is false, it will probably be debunked by Microsoft sooner rather than later. They wouldn't want gamers waiting around hoping for something that's never going to materialize. They need to build momentum, not nurse people through their disappointment. If there's no truth to it, better to come out and debunk it now or the 29th becomes a showdown for dashed hopes.

Damn are you taking over for Optimus with the overly long posts that nobody will ever read all of? lol, jk... but wall of text wow, at least you had the courtesy of including a picture for the lazy (me)

What Vgleaks revealed is the same docs devs have with them. Which has been proved by Eurogamer and other reputed site not rumor mills posting BS and having fun.

I wasn't going to buy an XO, but after that boost in CPU, day one baby!

Any and all boost are welcome :)

Release date: Nov. 22 in Europe

Can't tell if serious..

Sweet!!

btw, various sites are picking up the dGPU rumour ... interesting to see how this plays out

Is this real? GAME UK giving away Forza 5 with a pre-order - http://www.game.co.uk/en/hardware/new-xbox/launch/...

other stores have the same thing (shopto) but they're giving you the choice of one or the other. so fifa or forza.

Amazon dont have it yet?

Are you sure it's not all stemming from the same source? I wouldn't expect this to be true. If it is then yay, but it doesn't seem likely...

You won't get any complaints from me.It's going to likely play out just as the 12GB rumor did. Don't get me wrong doc, if happens the party will be at X1 Reddit, the funeral will be at Gaf. And I would love to watch just such a meltdown take place, that news would travel through the Gaf community like a bullet through heart. Of course that meltdown may happen anyway if the X1 manages to outsell the PS4 at a higher price and smaller global launch. Pre-orders in Europe jumped 200% after Gamescon. Bundling FIFA was a masterstroke.

But what I think is likely to happen is that unreleased AMD tech will finally be free to be discussed when the Sep 29th NDA is lifted. Could be GCN 2.0 features, which is very exciting because it would indicate that the X1 CUs are more advanced and performance capable. Maybe it's features that open the X1 to physics based rendering, that would be a KILLER feature and I'm noticing in those diagrams that is has alot of GPGPU capability for just that type of rendering. So we're likely to hear something that's cutting edge and news worthy.

Brilliant! Goodbye FIFA, hellooo Forza!! :D

Amazon now doing the same, but i've already pre-order with them and have Fifa 14 assigned, do you think i'll still be able to choose come launch?

I think for you to be sure is better that you send amazon an email.

Free Forza on launch is great. I think they did this to appeal more to people on the US, or this is only on Europe?

I personally hate Football (can't watch it), but because of my young colleagues, I have bought Fifa 13 for PC and enjoyed it, when I think of it as a tactical game (where I loose all the time btw). Looking forward to it. Will buy Forza sperately, because first party games usually are cheaper than 3rd party games. Looking forward to RYSE und DR3 as well. Haven't decided on the rest though.

Have forgot about K.I. - will buy the full version on Day one and I am really sad, that Kinect Sports won't be ready for launch ... will be fun with buddies and on couple nights

They would not have increased the clockspeed of gpu and cpu if performance was not a concern, would they ? I still wonder if they will make Kinect optional and therefore drop the price of the console. A game bundle still costs 500$ so I do not see what is the catch here.

Yeah i'll send them an email.

Maybe they give you a code that allows you to choose on the XO?Yeah I know!! Who wants a free great game right!?

New Killer Instinct video about different color skins, but at the end there's an Ultra combo: that combination of punches and sound effects corresponding directly with the rhythm and composition of the music is a very nice touch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...

Cant wait to get this, looks soo good! Listen to Thunder's stage music... awesome!

I love that bit at the end with the ultra :D

This is a great vid that describes how the dynamic music works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQmkSWPhlNE

Cool video interview with Sessler and Pinello http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QrZP0AmUvk&feature...
edit: he's a good spokesman. MS should let him take the reigns more often. I also think MS should tap Dan Greenawalt for communicating their messages, lol, he's so passionate :)I really like the music too. Strangely makes me want to play it...