Wonder if MS will have partnered with sky if this is all true? So the 720 is a HD sky set top box? Seems like a natural progression to the kinda lacklustre sky incorporation in the 360. If that's their big draw though, a digital TV PVR system, like playTV on PS3. Then it isn't something i'm interested in really. If sky is somehow made free though simply by using a 720, then that would be pretty big news. If it's XBL gold sub on top of sky subscription...then meh.

As long as i can still play my core games, then either way i'm good.

That would be pretty decent too tbh, But as with most of those sort of promotional offers, it'll be new customers only no doubt.

That would be sweet, cant see it though.

You just HAD to rub in my team losing today, eh? :P Go ahead, enjoy it. Here's an interesting statistic. The team with the longest regular season win streak has not won the championship in like the last 4-5 NBA seasons. Considering the accuracy of that piece of spin, the Miami Heat only continue to shoot themselves in the foot by carrying on with this 18 game winning streak of theirs. So, in a stroke of genius, my team is only preserving their championship viability by making sure their win streaks are occasionally snapped once in a while. Meanwhile yours, in all its misguided consistency, are barreling towards certain doom.


Is he buying this spin? Shit, I sure fucking hope so. Well, at least Tiger won today!Wouldn't be the first time the forums were wrong about something like this. Forums were wrong about the Wii and Nintendo's chances prior to its release, they were wrong about what would happen between PS3 and 360. They were wrong about PSP destroying DS when it came out (A lot of people would love to take back those predictions from when the DS initially started out slow and didn't have enough unique content to exploit the two screens). It was thought Nintendo's handheld dominance was surely at an end when the PSP was headed to release.

They were wrong about Vita slaughtering the 3DS based on Vita's impressive specs. They were wrong about Kinect when they felt it wouldn't go anywhere and wouldn't have a meaningful impact on 360 console sales, yet the reality was quite the opposite. They were also wrong in thinking that PS Move would be more successful than Kinect.

Gaming forums are very vocal and pay attention more than the average gamer, but they (we) have a very bad track record of predicting what most gamers will do or find worthwhile.

True, but most people on forums are hardcore gamers and as such have very particular views (allot being fanboys) also the sad truth is that hardcore gamers (consoles anyway) make up a not so big percentage of console/handheld users, so if these companies don't also pander to the casuals they will not get the massive sales they desire.

too much text, anything new on this?

Tom Warren (The Verge) seems to believe we're going to hear something in a few days. Whether that's official or not I don't know, but Warren making mention of it means something is about to get revealed.

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/3108917986188...

It doesn't make sense that Microsoft is trying SO HARD just to maintain the black hole of secrecy around Durango. Many are starting to get the very real impression that the final specs will reveal much more that what's been leaked. And I'm leaning toward one of these configurations- Dual APU or APU + GPU.

how you reckon it'll be priced? competative with MS taking a big hit? or pricey? i'm leaning towards the later, i don't see how they can't. if it's spec'd higher then what's rumoured, has a packed in kinect 2.0 AND has TV capabilities, surely it's going to be expensive?

I thinking similar price to Sony if specs are improved?, but less if there not?

ta :)

key to winning console wars, is the cheapest pile of shit wins from the word go

3 years later expensive ones take over, or get close.

surely kinect will be boosting the price assuming it is the needless pack-in that it's rumoured to be? i can only assume kinect 2.0 will be more advanced, and if kinect 1.0 was $150, they could potentially be packing in a $200 camera. MS have the cash to take a big hit per console sold though i guess?

If there is indeed more than what we've already seen..........think $399.99 with Microsoft taking a hit of 100 dollars or more. Microsoft took a $125 hit per console when the 360 launched.

its fucking mad when you look at it like that lol

I suspect they will take an initial hit like they always have first year or 2.Sony's ps3 hit was around $250 at launch, crazy indeed.

Indeed, and then followed by RRODs.

But they managed to recover very well from that, the 360 (Kinect hardware and software sales added) earned them $54 Billion this generation. Xbox Live earns about $230 Million per month just on subscriptions alone, it's probably more when you factor in marketplace purchases.

So Microsoft can afford to take the hit, the division has other sources of income to sustain them through launch.

give em away for free ;) they will win then.

LOL! Speaking of winning. Patcher is more famous for his prediction fails than anything else. It can't make Xbox fans feel good when he predicts Microsoft will win the next generation before it even begins.

He gets some things right, but i cant say i hang off his every word.

He is just paid to have a educated guess.

Sounds plausible.. Apple also does it with their products..

They probably won't use Xbox 3 because that might give some people the idea the Playstation 4 is newer (and better).. Sounds dumb, but that's really how it works (lots of ignorant people on this planet)..

Last year Microsoft registered domains that include Xbox8.us, Xbox8.org. In addition they registered XboxLiveTV.com, XboxTablet.com (don't be surprised when you see it Optimus) and XboxPhone.com, and XboxCompanion.com.

Most have concluded that the Xbox 8 is actually just the symbol for infinity.

@Optimus. And it is my prediction that that tablet controller will go mobile.

Hopefully the name doesn't suck. I think whatever they do, they'll want it to be the final blueprint on how they name future Xbox games consoles from here on out. Everything will follow as part of a clearly defined pattern from here on out.

They may just adopt the Apple route where the name generally doesn't ever change all that much, if at all, and they'll simply differentiate based on the hardware inside each new iteration being different. They may indeed just adopt their operating system naming scheme. Whatever they call the quick followup to Windows 8, might just be precisely what they call the next xbox.