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LEBATO - IS WRONG
LEBATO
Since 7374 Days
Wow, the gaming industry is turning to shit.
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rayy
rayy
Since 7226 Days
And Kojima trying to defend it
However it may be people have been skeptical about the “Phantom Pain being 100 times larger” and there are even radicals that decided to boycott Ground Zeroes completely because of its sub-par length. Kojima has stated:
“Ground Zeroes is both a prologue to the MGS 5 story and, at the same time, a tutorial for a new Metal Gear, which transitions to sneaking simulator,” he said. “With that said, Ground Zeroes has a relatively small field as compared to the main game without time zones changing in real-time. However, each mission offers different time zones with different play styles.”
Releasing a 30$ tutorial is quite a new feat though but the devs are defending the game with the following statement:
“Are Journey and Dear Esther long? Voltaire’s 18th-century writing Candide is like a hundred pages at most. Yet they are masterpieces of video game and literature. This smearing will not stain and affect what we’re aiming to achieve with MGS, the game industry in Japan, or video games as a whole.”
The price tag to Journey and Dear Esther are both around 15$-20$, much lower than the asking price for Ground Zeroes.
“I want people to celebrate the new MGS like we used to. I’m not dismissing their concerns. But this issue surrounding the game’s length has been trumped-up,” Said developer Amaro.
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Fuck off mr Kojima. I hope Ground Zero tanks.
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KORNdog
KORNdog
Since 6656 Days
Posted by rayy
And Kojima trying to defend it
However it may be people have been skeptical about the “Phantom Pain being 100 times larger” and there are even radicals that decided to boycott Ground Zeroes completely because of its sub-par length. Kojima has stated:
“Ground Zeroes is both a prologue to the MGS 5 story and, at the same time, a tutorial for a new Metal Gear, which transitions to sneaking simulator,” he said. “With that said, Ground Zeroes has a relatively small field as compared to the main game without time zones changing in real-time. However, each mission offers different time zones with different play styles.”
Releasing a 30$ tutorial is quite a new feat though but the devs are defending the game with the following statement:
“Are Journey and Dear Esther long? Voltaire’s 18th-century writing Candide is like a hundred pages at most. Yet they are masterpieces of video game and literature. This smearing will not stain and affect what we’re aiming to achieve with MGS, the game industry in Japan, or video games as a whole.”
The price tag to Journey and Dear Esther are both around 15$-20$, much lower than the asking price for Ground Zeroes.
“I want people to celebrate the new MGS like we used to. I’m not dismissing their concerns. But this issue surrounding the game’s length has been trumped-up,” Said developer Amaro.
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Fuck off mr Kojima. I hope Ground Zero tanks.
even as a massive MGS fan, i agree. i hope it flops massively.

and bringing journey into it. a game that is hilariously LONGER at 3 hours, and cosst a third of the price. if he doesnt get why we're hating on a £30 DEMO, then he's a moron. price it accordingly and people will get on board. but seriously. 1.5 hour demo for £30...fuck that.
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 7097 Days
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KORNdog
KORNdog
Since 6656 Days
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2...

How did that even happen. I'd understand it if they bumped up the res for the xbone version. But it's the same. Only the patch has made the framerate worse.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7252 Days
That's a pretty impossible question to answer without a lot more context. I can only say that it's hardly the first time a patch has reduced performance in certain areas.
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KORNdog
KORNdog
Since 6656 Days
if you have the choice, looks like the 2 hour demo should be played on PS4.



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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7252 Days
Different developer/immature tools/new drivers/?
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 7097 Days
yeh but da game still fun doe
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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 7182 Days
to be honest, the metal gear solid series have never been graphics show stoppers. factor in the fact that I really dont care about Zeroes...
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KORNdog
KORNdog
Since 6656 Days
Posted by alimokrane
to be honest, the metal gear solid series have never been graphics show stoppers.
surely that makes it all the worse if the console can't even do a decent job handling the up-res
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scoobs0688
scoobs0688
Since 5886 Days
Doubt I'll waste $40 on a 2 hour demo... but I disagree with alimo in that MGS games have never been graphcial showcases. MGS2 was mind-numbingly amazing looking on PS2 for its time, and MGS4 was no slouch on PS4.
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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 7182 Days
Posted by KORNdog
surely that makes it all the worse if the console can't even do a decent job handling the up-res
not if you dont know how to use the console in the first place or the console is a bitch to develop for which seems to be the case for the Xbox One. Look, I am not defending Xbox One but we all know Kojima has a soft spot for Sony.
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 7097 Days
Posted by alimokrane
but we all know Kojima has a soft spot for Sony.
What does that even mean? Are you saying he'd purposely make an inferior version of the game to make the hardware look worse? And he has convinced every other multiplatform dev to join him. Conspiracy game too strong...

And to your original argument, MGS has been well regarded graphically over the years. PS1, PS2, PS3. The fact that this game spans multiple gens is a big part of why it's not as impressive.
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Tiz
Tiz
Since 6917 Days
Posted by Phaethon360
Conspiracy game too strong...
*Stronk
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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 7182 Days
Posted by Phaethon360
What does that even mean? Are you saying he'd purposely make an inferior version of the game to make the hardware look worse? And he has convinced every other multiplatform dev to join him. Conspiracy game too strong...

And to your original argument, MGS has been well regarded graphically over the years. PS1, PS2, PS3. The fact that this game spans multiple gens is a big part of why it's not as impressive.
Not in purpose - that would be stupid. In the way he talked about the PS4 version being superior, that's according to the tweet above that said "Kojima said it himself".

As for the graphics, sorry but I disagree, The MGS games have never impressed graphically on any console when compared to other showstoppers. All I am saying is the series is not a graphics benchmark.
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KORNdog
KORNdog
Since 6656 Days
Posted by alimokrane
not if you dont know how to use the console in the first place or the console is a bitch to develop for which seems to be the case for the Xbox One. Look, I am not defending Xbox One but we all know Kojima has a soft spot for Sony.
And yet he was at xbone E3 stage show demoing MGS.
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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 7182 Days
One more thing, I have, on several occasions stated that the Xbox One is definitely inferior in terms of power - I don't think MS themselves can deny this. I just find it very hard to believe that the Xbox One version of MGS Ground Demos is that bad in comparison.
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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 7182 Days
Posted by KORNdog
And yet he was at xbone E3 stage show demoing MGS.
Of course, out of his generosity .... oh please, anyone who ends up on those stages is probably getting paid for their time. We can agree to disagree here, I still believe Kojima has a soft spot for Sony platforms.
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 7097 Days
Whatever bias he has has nothing to do with inferior hardware. I might like steak and hamburger more than oysters and shellfish but that ain't the reason they give me diarrhea.
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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 7182 Days
While MS is too busy saying Xone is selling 2 times faster than X360, Sony is too busy taking the lead by outselling the Xone by almost 2 to 1 in January in their home turf (The US) Congrats MS! Well done you indeed.

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/02/13/ps4-leads-us...
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scoobs0688
scoobs0688
Since 5886 Days
Rumor on GAF that XB1 w/o Kinect and a free game will be arriving this year for $399. Wouldn't surprise me, and it would definitely tighten up the sales
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KORNdog
KORNdog
Since 6656 Days
Posted by scoobs0688
Rumor on GAF that XB1 w/o Kinect and a free game will be arriving this year for $399. Wouldn't surprise me, and it would definitely tighten up the sales
Depends how far the news of inferior ports has spread. If majority are still ignorant to it, then i will help. But if people already have a PS4, it's going to take a bit more of a price reduction to buy a console JUST for it's exclusives. No way would i buy inferior tech for the same money. It's why it took as long as it did to buy a wiiU...that and a healthy 10+ list of real exclusives.

Getting rid of kinect would be a damn good step in the right direction though. Why continue to flog an item people have been vocal about not wanting.
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docLEXfisti
docLEXfisti
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Is it from that same CBOAT guy who said the Titanfall alpha textures were final?
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 7097 Days
Posted by docLEXfisti
Is it from that same CBOAT guy who said the Titanfall alpha textures were final?
Yeah, but I think the nktrnl guy or whatever who MS is trying to sue is the originator. About those textures though....I'm not seeing how they were improved. Even on PC they're pretty rank.
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