Where is Optimus? lol

i've said my stance. i'll buy sony made exclusives day one since they've satated they will have no DRM. (plus anyone else who is also anti DRM) and i'll buy everything else for £5 or less when it hits the bargain bin. if i had an xbone i'd do the same, only it would be the case for ALL games. day one gaming would die for me. just wait a year and buy it for nothing. that way the publisher ass clowns that this is being implimented for get almost fuck all and suffer for their completely BS decisions. i get to play everything as i do now. it'll just be slightly delayed.

this is going to effect sales for both of them. so i wonder how well it all pays out for pubs. they'll have less consoles sold so a smaller userbase. anyone with a braincell would wait on games to become INCREDIBLE cheap. so they'd get an influx of £5 purchases and barely any £40 purchases. i hope that was their intention, otherwise they're going to stuggle...and so they should, fuck em.

Well honestly Phaethon it doesn't sound like you're interested in gaming as much as your interested in turning a profit selling and trading your games. Open up a game store dude.

Not interested in XO but this is not bad policies what ppl on internet are crying over. Used games needs to go. That is what game devs want 1 million copies sold and more than 2 million played is a loss for them. Sure million ppl pirate it on PC and even on 360 I think Halo was leaked on torrents before release lol. So it is collective decision to end this. Sony will be similar. They hate hackers.

You need to go.

People will still hack the Xbox and PS4 at some point and people will be able to pirate games, and PC pirating will still continue, plain simple.
Used games needs to stay since ALOT of people trade in games they dont play anymore or they cant afford full game prices so they get used copies.

why bother, with these sorts of policies the store would last seconds.

I kinda wish they'd come up with some way that people could trade and sell games to other people but where the assholes at Gamestop got cut out of the loop. They offer bum deals to everyone but themselves. Horrendous trade in value, insanely over priced used titles and a big middle finger to publishers. The used market should benefit gamers, not Gamestop.

This is the delicate truth that Sony gamers are going to have to come to grips with, game publishers ARE NOT going to allow Sony to make up their own rules while they can enforce THEIR POLICIES (hope your paying attention KORN) on the Xbox One. They would run the direct risk of those publishers holding back games from them. Sony will acquiesce.It sounds almost as complicated as a medical plan doesn't it?

I already complimented Sony for being very smart and slick about things. They've stood silently while Microsoft has taken all the heat up front. While everyone is pelting Microsoft with rocks, they have been quietly filing DRM patents and getting a pass from a fan base that is in serious stage of denial, but are all in for very rude awakening soon. Sony's potential DRM policies (that is if they implement those patents) make Microsoft's look quite friendly. lol Sony HATES hackers and used games more than Microsoft.

But I repeat my earlier position. CHEAPER GAMES from the publishers will make this bitter pill go down easier. I hope they catch on to that wisdom sooner rather than later.

Megido...agreed!
Add GAME to the list as well.

anyone still living in denial Neverland should read the below piece from eurogamer

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-06-07-micro...

please wake up you fools!

I blame the users. Many buy used games. SP games suffer a lot. Big MP games make too much money anyways. I do not like the online DRM. But it is not a big deal either. I am sure some one will hack it soon or later.

Whatever, bad excuse is bad.

Gamers love to share their games to friends and family for FREE and play forever if they choose to and trade in games they dont play anymore or trade in games that suck ass, plain simple.
I only focus on single player games so the replayvalue is very vague in most games these days so if i plan on getting a game i finish it and if i see i got no more use of playing it anymore i want to trade that game in and get another game I am interested.

But since this how its going to be from now on, then so be it. I will just buy less games and be much more nitpicking than I already am (lol) on picking the games I am interested in buying.

I will never support on paying extra money on something that I already paid fair for and own and should be my decision on what to do with, wtf is this...Tron all of a sudden? lol
Reminds me of the concept of Tron Legacy how original software creator wanted it free for fans yet a new chief takes over the company and decides that people should pay for it yet gets leaked and downloaded within minutes and they get pissed about it.

If Sony dont decide on the same action, i wonder what the publishers would really do?

oh, i'm sure that will be the case. i just hope there are some publishers/developers that simply won't support DRM at all, that know they would be seen as pro-consumer if they didn't...meaning it'll appear on PC and PS4 only seeing as it's forced upon everyone on the Xbone. that's my only hope so far. that way i can support the games that don't have DRM, and give the middle finger to those that do. (while still playing the games i want, but the publishers getting next to nothing) simple system which i plan to stick to. people bend over in ragards to this and it's just going to encourage it for next next gen and beyond. give them a clear message from the outset and maybe they'll change their tune.

Not a fan of gamestop i see. :)

Sounds like a new game for the 360 only at E3 also?, plus more Exclusives to be announced at Gamescon.

I don't like their business model no. If they were at least a bit more pro-consumer then i might look more favorably on them. But really, with the prices they offer i might as well just buy new and never trade anything in knowing that sure, it was 5-10 bucks more expensive but at least i supported the companies that made the game rather than Gamestop who ultimately gives very little back to my favorite pastime/hobby.

I mean, i figured that by now i could buy a game for a decent price, especially used, so i go in the store and look it up. Game costs 499:- (that's swedish money) and it sells for 599:- new (that's $91,5, which is fucking outrageous by the way. Gamestop/GAME have a tendency to inflate prices to insane levels here). Mind you the game i was looking at was like 4-5 months old at this point. Then i go online and find it for 350:- at PSN and around 250-300 in stores that aren't run by lunatics. Does that sound like a store you'd want to spend your money at? I sure don't want to get economically sodomized while perpetuating their awful practices.

I have Xbox and Xbox 360. And I was excited about the reveal. After that reveal everything has gone downhill. Now I only hope that the One is the One that is Microsoft's downfall.

There seem to be people that are so worried about all of the people in the videogame industry that they are willing to accept any business and DRM measures that may give more money to that industry. People that are looking at this with a very limited view. People that are just accepting this. People that just tell others to dealwithit. I find this annoying being just a videogame user and as a customer. Maybe I am selfish, but I don't want to sacrifice my freedom and enjoyment to that altar.

I am more willing to accept dropping one A from those triple A games. If some of those A's represents the length of a game, then that is not the one I would drop. And, it seems like that property is missing from many triple A games anyways.

As I said, I am no insider of the industry. So I don't know where most of the money in development goes. Some say that it is more expensive than ever. Are computers more expensive? Are people more expensive? Are there too many people sharing the profits? If anything, it should be now easier than ever to make games because surely development tools are more advanced and user-friendly now than years ago. Detail levels have naturally gone up, but that has a lot to do with textures. It just means that there is no reason to use blurry textures. :) If PS4 and Xbox One really are turning into PCs, then that must also help a lot.

I can at least spot one thing that must be a factor in all of this. There are so many developers. There were 149 third-party partners shown in PS4 reveal. And, that means there are many sharing the same cake. Maybe there just is not enough cake to share to so many. Not all of the games can find enough gamers. This means that many may struggle and some may drop. Big developers may have the upper hand in someways, but this can also actually benefit small developers. They don't have huge organisations that need to churn out games continuously to keep them afloat.

Like with any business, it is a struggle. Artificially keeping this struggle going on with excessive practices like micro transactions, attacks against used games, overproducing of down-loadable content (to a point when it feels like it was cut on purpose to be sold later), online authentications, advertisements sneaking in, timed exclusives, sequelitis and even region locks don't feel that nice. Some may even like some of these. I am not a fan.

People also say that PC players have already accepted most of this. It may be true, but they at least have lower prices to lean on. And it doesn't make it better. For me consoles have been about putting the game in, enjoying the game, end of. It may be oldschool, but if it is better, then why should I want or accept something else? It is sad too see videogame industry evolving into something that just is not better.

Yeah i think the exact same about Game UK.

Can we please ban KORNdog from all Xbox related topics or at least rename him Korn_PS3Fan, because this is going on for years - I just cannot read that blind Sony praise anymore. Grow up and get out of the Microsoft threads man, don't you have a life?

There is Ignore link docLEXfisti.

Aaaaaaaand done. Thx Sath!