One thing's for certain, Kinect will have intimate knowledge of all there is to know about you and your relation to someone else when all is said and done.

About family sharing... I assume people think that this is between up to 11 different boxes.

1) So how can you share games that are installed to your hard drive? Or do you actually install your game to the cloud?
2) Are family members leeching your games from the cloud or from the hard drive?
3) Is it like OnLive service that streams those shared games from the cloud? Streaming from the same place you can buy them.
4) Are family members just streaming or do they have to install those games to their own consoles? Games that they can't use if there are many people using that shared library.

Xbox One is not for me, but I am curious.

1) Each Xbox One game purchased is like two digital copies: A real copy, and a shared copy.
2) They are gaining access to your game via the cloud if you give them permission to access games you've decided to share. (Also doesn't have to be family, can be friends miles and miles away)
3) & 4) No streaming, you download and install the actual game to your own xbox through the cloud and play it from your hard drive, as if you actually own it, too.

Lastly, you can give up to 10 people permission to play your shared games, but only one among those 10 can be connected and playing at any one time. For example, if you have Halo 5, and you are sharing Halo 5 with friends, it isn't impossible that one of those friends accessing your shared games can also play Halo 5 at the exact same time that you're also playing Halo 5. So it's literally a way to let people borrow your games without actually giving up your ability to still play your game whenever you want. The person accessing the shared game, however, has to maintain an internet connection at all times, because they aren't the actual true owner of the game.

Of course you had to use Halo 5 as an example ;P

But I dont see MS supporting this idea, nobody ever needs to buy a damn game again if they are added to one friend. When they are finish they message them when they are done so they can take over the game.
Besides, if say I have a game and i share it with 5 friends, and none of them know eachother at all, it would be difficult for them to keep track who is playing at what time unless you like to be a messageboy.

Yeah this is what Sony did first but narrowed it down, watch MS do the samething.

Hypothetically speaking of course. There's no guarantee that I'd be interested in a Halo title :P

Well, keep in mind, it's still only 2 people at a time (one of which is the actual original owner of the games), so there may not even be a need to narrow it down at all. It's already been narrowed down by limiting it to just a single person among a potential 10 at any given time. So it would seem Microsoft maybe already learned the lesson that Sony learned on the PS3, where seemingly countless people could all be accessing the same copy of a digital game.

On knowing whether the share slot is free for use or not, that could be solved by some kind of icon notifying everyone that the slot in this person's share is currently occupied by someone else, meaning it would make no sense to try and connect right now. That's one of the benefits of the live tile user interface. There could be a tile that is updating this information in real-time, letting you know when there's an open spot in the share.

So if you have 10 different games that are shared to 10 people and you play game #1
-->family member 1 can play game #2 at the same time.
-->family member 2 can play game #3 at the same time.
-->family member 3 can play game #4 at the same time and so on?

One family member can play the same game as you.
And two family members can't play for example game #2 at the same time.

Am I getting this? If so, then it certainly is better than nothing. But scheduling different games with different family members is a hassle. And downloading and installing games that you may not be able to play is not ideal.

It will be reworded and considerably more restrictive when launched. There is absolutely no way they let this system work as we have interpreted it to work as it massively reduces the number of games people will buy. Sony had to do the same thing when their system was exploited and it was nowhere near 10 copies being shared out.

Under the current system, 10 people will never be able to simultaneously play games from the same share. 2 family members won't be able to, either. It will only ever be a single family member and the original creator of the game share who owns the original copies of the games. All 9 other family members will be blocked from accessing the shared games while any one of the other family members are playing.

This is what I think the sharing works. I may be wrong though.

You can share with 10 ppl in your family list.
You can share with a person A and can play with him online too. He simply downloads the whole game on his console. Has to be online every hour so it can check the game is shared with only A
You can share with A only once. So if he deleted it or you want to share with B on your family list then A gets blacked out.
So now B becomes A. I believe you can play with B now too. Likewise with C, D ... till max of 10

This obviously mean all have boradband and gold membership. Also the family list cannot be changed. I do not think it is possible to remove someone and add someone else instead. This works only for disk based game. Not all games will support this feature.

Works for digital as well as disc based. All Xbox One titles that are disc based are also all available day one as digital releases also, so it wouldn't make sense if digital wasn't supported considering the console is very much digital in nature. Discs are just an extra delivery mechanism.

You can share more than once with anybody on the list. There's no limit on how many times you can share with any of your "family" members. There's two rules: Only one member of the family at any given time. And for any family member to access your shared games library, they must have internet access and be connected to xbox live. Yes, you can add and remove someone as many times as you like on your family list. As of now there's no gold membership required, but it's hard to say whether or not that will change. It would be wisest to not block this feature behind a gold subscription.

Ouch. It is more restrictive than I thought. I thought that it was more logical the way I put it. If you have 10 physical copies (this gen), then you can give/share them to/with 10 people that can use them at any time. Xbox One is being more literal about sharing since you are not essentially giving your copy away.

Being able to share over a long distance is of course a plus in Xbox One version. And sharing one game simultaneously. And yes, sharing with just one people is the way to go. They can then share game purchases 50/50 and know that they can access the games. Even that simultaneous game if the internet connection is OK.

Thank you for clearing things up.

Digital games are also priced same but are you sure about people can be added or reomoved from family list. Then whoever you know has bought a game you could ask him to share it. Some one could end up playing 10 different games even without buying a single game. I mean some could actually start online renting business model using this. If all games are supported :D 10$ to rent a game digitally, share it with 10 and you make a profit of 40. Some can buy 5 XO and play and also make money.

Someone needs to do a video or explain exactly how this works. It might actually be good if all you need to good broadband.

Sure it's about as complicated as my medical plan, but if you read through all of it instead of skimming you come away with a much better picture of the X1's policies. And it's just not as bad as people are making it out to be. I do agree that Microsoft has to put out some comprehensive videos for better understanding.

I'm done trying to convince Sony gamers that they're eventually going to have accept the same scenario. I simply can't comprehend how they still believe that a publisher/developer is going to use the restrictions on X1 and then not apply them to the PS4. Sony's remarks at E3 do not amount to blanket policy for the entire industry, and it's funny that no one bothered to notice that NOT ONE SINGLE PUBLISHER came out with a statement of support for those remarks. NOT ONE.

Been saying that for a while. It's pretty pathetic. But whatever helps justify a purchase i guess?

More or less already made peace with the policies and potential policies of the systems. Have no issue approaching things one way for one platform and approaching them another way for another. It's actually quite funny, though, that I'll know what the differences between them are, but I, for the most part, won't even notice the differences on a day to day, month to month basis, and may very well forget about them entirely. The people I primarily let borrow and play my games are now no longer even in the same state as I am, so there goes giving my game discs to anyone, and I keep all my internet capable devices, especially my game consoles, connected to the internet at all times. So, short of some out of nowhere internet connectivity related issues that last for more than 24 hours, the xbox one will feel very similar to my experience with the 360 and PS3.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M67wgVAavrI

Gotta say, the more I hear about Ryse, the more I like.

Those prompts that show up during combat are now confirmed to be something the player can choose to disable entirely and just go purely based on the visual tells in the combat animation to determine which button press might be required to earn a bonus of some sort. It's similar to Gears of War's quick reload system, where you had a little reload mini-game where if you got the timing just right, you'd reload quicker. In Ryse, if you get the inputs correct, you receive a number of different bonuses or rewards for doing so. So, it's combat finisher mini-games for bonus rewards. Also, this is yet another place to confirm that Crytek did in fact decrease the hit points of the enemies in the demo, which made killing them with a finisher appear a lot quicker than might have otherwise been the case under more ordinary circumstances. Either way, for the first 5 minutes or so of the vid they're talking strictly about Ryse, and both guys seem to have come away pretty impressed with what they saw behind closed doors.

I'm not being cynical, I'm trying to point out that the reasons that people are using for not buying an X1 are not only ridiculous but also inevitably pointless. And hope? Well hope is apart of every scenario, even to someone who is hoping a platform will fail. Isn't that right?

And as I've already said, I'm done arguing with anyone who still doesn't think that this will become standard policy for the industry. Come to terms with it or continue to shake your fist at the air. Sony's announcement last Monday got everyone pumped but what we should have been doing was paying attention to how the industry reacted to it, NOT gamer reaction. What I now recognize is that gamers celebrated too soon, the industry isn't feeling any compulsion to change course. This is something the industry wants after all, a fact that the gaming press has glaringly avoided to discuss. They've placed all ownership on Microsoft when they know devs/publishers have been extremely vocal about these issues. Don't you also find it interesting that they aren't asking publishers what they intend to do? All last week I looked very carefully for any signs that the publishers would back up Sony's remarks. I found none.

Then I stepped back for a moment and realized that I've been gaming this way on PC for years now. I haven't raged on Valve or called for the end of PC gaming. I haven't boycotted any publishers or chastised anyone who bought a game I didn't like. So why are so many people holding this torch for Microsoft when these kind of policies already exist for Desktop and mobile platforms?

And Microsoft's policies really aren't that bad. Anyone will be able to play your games on your X1. Simple. You go over to your friend's house, sign in, play the disc or download the game and now you and friend are playing. You can have up to 10 friends playing your games. You can GIVE the game away to one of your friends to own with no fees, this even INCLUDES your digital games as well.

If Microsoft takes more time to explain these options to gamers, alot of this noise will die down. But it's going to die down eventually.

I should have amended....why AM I holding this torch for Microsoft and I endure similar policies with Steam?

Bit more info on Family Sharing, this makes much more sense to me now.

You are being a sheep. Just because you are OK with everything, doesn't mean that everyone should be. You should understand that those that are critical, are critical not just for their own sake, but also for all of those that are just OK with everything. Surely that is a better fight, than just being OK about it and accepting it?

If this critisism is told loud enough, the game industry will hear. So empower yourself and take a stance!Am I reading this wrong or is this a step in the right direction? :)

So its a QTE without the QTE without you doing anything, yep thats fun :/
You might as well do the stupid QTE atleast you will be pressing buttons on the controller, not like if the game has anything but that. 3-4 hits QTE...rinse and repeat.

Angry Joe going in honest and unbiased interview with Major Nelson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RtSGFryKwo damn this guy is awesome unlike those paid companies who keeps their honest opinions in!

And what direction would that be? I've already got both consoles reserved, but I'm not going to be fooled into thinking there will be greener pastures with the PS4. It's the same colored grass for everybody.