Interesting seeing that it uses a "plus" shaped d-pad as Nintendo has a patent on those.

That right there is the problem though, i refuse to pay for something i do not want. Until they remove the paripheral, i won't buy the system (unless i can maybe get it parted out on ebay or something) knowing it no longer NEEDS to be plugged in is one step closer to them doing as they should, and release the system without kinect. If people want that POS so much, let them pay extra for it. But for those that don't want it, they shouldn't force it on us. It comes with a control pad, that should be enough, quit trying to ram kinect down our throat.

If you aren't already a lawyer you'd make a damn good one :)

Nice :)

It's about time! My 360 and PS3 are both louder than my PC which is quite ridiculous considering they have about a quater of the processing power.I wish I could have a 24 million selling, record breaking product "flop"

Actually it does for a business. Nah, i'll just carry on enjoying table tennis with it instead.

I think you need to research the word "Flop", another word that clearly doesnt mean what you think it does.

You have to wonder if people actually pay attention to the details anymore, but as far as I can tell Microsoft didn't change anything. Kinect is still in the box, still standard with every X1 purchase, and under no circumstances will it be unbundled. As matter of fact when the X1's price is lowered (probably next year) Kinect will add a greater value, so keeping it bundled is just smart business. You wouldn't want to remove any advantages from your platform just to please disinterested early adopters. 24 Million 360/Kinectv1 users will be arriving for dinner eventually, Microsoft is just making sure their place at the table is set. And if the device actually manages to surprise any gamers and win us over in the process, well then all the better.

I don't know if I'll like Kinect, but unlike others I sure intend to give it a chance and plug it in to find out for myself. Hell if I'm paying for it I might as well find out if it's worth integrating into my home theater.

Interesting, by making this tiny gesture Microsoft has cleverly removed the contentiousness from the debate over Kinect. They've seemingly convinced people who still had problems (paranoia or disinterest) with Kinect that the sensor is now a non factor. By removing this negative from the discussion, and by letting the whiners have a false victory, they can finally begin moving past the eggs and rock throwing. As simple a solution as this is, the whiners already feel better about the X1. Go figure. LOL!

So I would say Microsoft is finally figuring it all out. The best way to deal with all of the drama is don't try to convince them, just seemingly take away as many of their personal gripes as possible. I'm just glad they didn't remove it, that would have been a mistake. Some developer out there is going to figure out the killer app that broadens the appeal of this for core gamers.

Kinect mandatory was always ridiculous. There surely will be non Kinect SKU I guess. Especially if PS4 flies of the shelf and XO demands are below expectations.

Well nothing ever will disarm the debate for you. You have an endless supply of rocks and eggs to throw, and you've been throwing them since January.

If they lower the price that could work.

If you really think that's the truth then at least be honest enough to admit that what YOU'VE engaged in these many months has neither been measured or constructive. What am I supposed to do, agree with YOU? You're the most cynical person here.

I am looking forward to the new Kinect and the new Controller, you guys make it sound like I should feel that I am a bad person :)

I am happy that new consoles arrive and will treat myself with a Wii U with Mario in September to get into the "NextGen" mood. PS4 will be bought after X-Mas though and with my GTX 670 I am still set-up good for more PC offerings. This is the time where I am happy that I'm a gamer and will be for my whole life.

Even my boy talks about Mario all the time - he's so fascinated that it's really hard to swallow sometimes [it's his most favorite topic]

Your not a bad person, i'm looking forward to it too :)

I don't see a lot of mainstream-titles implementing motion controls, more voice commands maybe ... but I think games will remain the traditional way they are ... but there might be more "innovative pearls" coming, now that every X1 has it. I think in the end it can only turn out well.

And you'll never be a good person again doc, you are truly LOST. All of this talk about looking forward to Kinect, being a happy gamer, having enthusiasm? There's no room for that here, you're just a blind cheerleader who hasn't yet figured out how cheerless and futile gaming on the Xbox One will be.

Misery loves company doc, misery LOVES company.

So basically, what we've established here is that Kinect is a flop and has ruined the entire Xbox brand because Grift doesn't like it. Thanks for that fact, i'll note it down.Yup, as much as you like wiggling your thumbs :pI would love Halo even if it was the literally the dirt beneath my shoe :DYou must incredibly naïve if you truly believe that it isn't the primary objective of any big company.